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Replying To BaldyBadger:  "Cork do have talented players, however talent alone does not win matches nowadays. This Cork team are rudderless and have been since Canty retired from County football. Aidan Walsh had the potential to grow into a fantastic footballer and maybe the leader they needed, then he decides to hurl instead, when he is not good enough for County Hurling at the top level. Bringing him into the squad now smacks of desperation as it is far too late to integrate him into the set up and be effective, especially with so much emphasis on defensive shape and systems. Cork lack in this area already, without bringing in somebody completely new to it.

I would not think that Cork can be or will be serious competitors for at least three years and that would depend on an overhaul of management and personnel working constantly, like Tyrone have over the past three years. All this being said, coming off a heartbreaking defeat like Donegal had on Sunday could level the field slightly and give Cork a fighting chance in this match as a one off. Just like Cork's defeat last year to Kildare, six days after the Munster replay defeat. I think it depends on which Donegal team turn up, rather than Cork's ability. Donegal did look like they tired towards the end of Sundays game. Perhaps utilising some of their squad, especially the young talent they have at their disposal will freshen it up for them."
I agree fully Badger.

Aidan Walsh was an All-star in his first year at 19. His game needed some polishing (some decision making and delivery could have been improved) but with that polishing, he would have been midfielder of the decade. I am convinced of that. Instead he played the next few years in, it seemed, every other position except fro midfield. He combined hurling and football for a while (at under 21 and senior intercounty) before packing football in to play a sport that he was not as good at. It is wasted talent. It is a real, real shame. It simply would not have happened in Dublin, Kerry, Mayor or anywhere else.

I am fully convinced if James Horan, Jim McGuiness or Jack O'Connor were given 5 years in Cork with complete control over the set up. In other words if we had a top manager that was allowed to manage, we would be extremely close to winning an All-Ireland.

I think we have a great chance against Donegal. They are favourites - no doubt. We could win for sure. Could be hammered as well. Hard to gauge. Not looking beyond that really.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 20/07/2016 16:02:08    1887118

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Replying To bennybunny:  "I agree fully Badger.

Aidan Walsh was an All-star in his first year at 19. His game needed some polishing (some decision making and delivery could have been improved) but with that polishing, he would have been midfielder of the decade. I am convinced of that. Instead he played the next few years in, it seemed, every other position except fro midfield. He combined hurling and football for a while (at under 21 and senior intercounty) before packing football in to play a sport that he was not as good at. It is wasted talent. It is a real, real shame. It simply would not have happened in Dublin, Kerry, Mayor or anywhere else.

I am fully convinced if James Horan, Jim McGuiness or Jack O'Connor were given 5 years in Cork with complete control over the set up. In other words if we had a top manager that was allowed to manage, we would be extremely close to winning an All-Ireland.

I think we have a great chance against Donegal. They are favourites - no doubt. We could win for sure. Could be hammered as well. Hard to gauge. Not looking beyond that really."
Benny
spot on
agree word for word

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 20/07/2016 16:30:37    1887136

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Replying To Donegalman:  "I think that Cork on paper have one of the top 4 teams in the country. I am not playing doing my own teams chance here, I believe that we could beat them for sure, but I believe that cork are a team that could not only beat us, but also give the dubs an absolute stinker of a game should they get through to the quarters. It amazes me that they have been so badly off the boil for the last 5 or 6 seasons, but the league has shown us that they more than any other side will give the dubs a horrid time in croke park if that is the way the dice fall."
Couldn't agree less , you don't play teams on paper you play them on grass , they are not up to it .

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 20/07/2016 17:07:05    1887155

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Couldn't agree less , you don't play teams on paper you play them on grass , they are not up to it ."
That point was already made about 'on paper' by a fellow county man of yours, it must be something that does the rounds in the club houses of dublin gaa.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 20/07/2016 17:38:08    1887172

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At this stage of any knockout tournament any team is 'capable' of winning 3 or 4 games on the trot if a bit of luck comes along.

More so this year due to the draw.

Hopefully we see someone different from previous years.

DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 20/07/2016 21:20:38    1887274

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Cork could beat us - absolutely no doubt about that . In fact I'd make it close to 50/50.

As regards Cork beating Donegal , Dublin and then Kerry - not a hope .

I know Cork people here in Dublin and they tell me their management are totally out of their depth .

Showing up once every year is not good enough .

Cork could beat us by 8 points and then lose to Dublin by 12.

Wouldn't give them a prayer against Dublin .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 21/07/2016 15:11:11    1887723

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Replying To DoireCityFC:  "At this stage of any knockout tournament any team is 'capable' of winning 3 or 4 games on the trot if a bit of luck comes along.

More so this year due to the draw.

Hopefully we see someone different from previous years."
Ah c'mon that's a bit of a stretch isn't it? For example, the winner of yourselves v Tipp is hardly likely to go all the way, are they?

MedwayIrish (Wexford) - Posts: 2324 - 21/07/2016 15:38:33    1887746

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Replying To Donegalman:  "That point was already made about 'on paper' by a fellow county man of yours, it must be something that does the rounds in the club houses of dublin gaa."
Or it could be took a while to post two posting at a similar time it happens, but nice to see your paying attention

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 21/07/2016 15:44:44    1887749

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I agree with the general sentiments here. You never know what you are going to get with Cork and given their forwards and Donegal's lack of a ruthless edge they could well beat Donegal I imagine they will certainly fancy it. Different matter if they had to face a hungry Tyrone side or the Dubs. Actually think the dubs would hockey them too especially if getting any momentum as not sure this Cork side would fancy it much in those circumstances.

panamasam (Australia) - Posts: 2782 - 21/07/2016 16:08:46    1887759

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Cork should setup their own blanket, it's the best way to play against Donegal

Cork caused Dublin a lot of trouble in the league, in what was probably the most defensive Cork setup I've ever seen

More of that and they will cause Donegal plenty of trouble, they have the forwards to get the scores

Problem is you don't know what sort of Cork team will show up

If they are up for it, setup properly, stay focused and not give away too many frees

They have every chance of doing well.

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20601 - 21/07/2016 16:51:44    1887793

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Cork should setup their own blanket, it's the best way to play against Donegal

Cork caused Dublin a lot of trouble in the league, in what was probably the most defensive Cork setup I've ever seen

More of that and they will cause Donegal plenty of trouble, they have the forwards to get the scores

Problem is you don't know what sort of Cork team will show up

If they are up for it, setup properly, stay focused and not give away too many frees

They have every chance of doing well."
I think you could be right. If Cork analyse the Ulster Final, which I'm sure they will, look at previous Monaghan wins over Donegal and how Kerry set up in 2014 then they will see that Donegal really struggle against good defensive structures. The question is will Cork have the patience and discipline to implement this? I hope Donegal have learned from the mistakes made against Tyrone and bring more variety to their attack. Defensively they were excellent but really struggled with ideas trying to break Tyrone down.

Cork definitely have a chance but I'm not giving up on Donegal putting a run of results together over the next few weeks. I hope the management show a little faith in some of the back up players for the Cork game because if they do manage to get over Cork you can't expect the exact same team to be able to face Dublin the following week. 6 or 7 changes needed for Cork which will bring a freshness and hunger to the team to get the job done and lads will want to hold onto their starting jersey for the next game.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 21/07/2016 17:29:02    1887818

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If our traditional Munster final rivals were to make the quarter-finals, I doubt they would beat Tyrone or Dublin Region.

They have a lot in common with Clare at the moment. Both are Division 2 bound and both lost out in the Munster semi-finals.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7884 - 21/07/2016 17:53:58    1887833

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If Donegal have recovered from the disappointment of losing the Ulster Final then I would expect them to beat Cork.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 21/07/2016 20:56:00    1887906

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People go on about Cork being able to put it up to any team...Cork haven't put 35 minutes together in any game since they drew with Kerry below in Killarney last year. Donegal should hammer them, if they don't then whoever' next will.

pc11 (UK) - Posts: 13 - 21/07/2016 21:30:33    1887929

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