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When was the Gaelic football last considered good?

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Replying To TheRightStuff: "Yeah fair enough RD. Look I even set up a thread on my our own HS page and I slated the way we play football - I actually despise it. Imagine playing Michael Murphy at midfield/ half back. Even when he does play inside , they dont kick the bloody ball into him. The atmosphere in Clones was amazing in before thrown in and then the game started - it was like watching paint dry. It was fine in 2012 when we counter attacked or V Dublin in 2014 but more often than not it is terrible now." The funny thing is I felt if Donegal had taken the game to Tyrone a bit more I feel they would have won, you could see doubt in Tyrone players minds for 50+ mins, I do think you were actually looking like the winners apart from the last 10 mins, now I know that when it counts most. But its didn't look like it. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/07/2016 22:32:06 1887315 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "Bad games in every decade, however its the consistent bad games with the odd good one thrown in that is the problem, and i did say the golden age was 90 to 06. Definitely the higher quality of games was played those times, started to dip after 06 but it was more 50?50 as in quality wise, also everyone seems to be going on gaa gold, very seldom does finals for various reasons give a great display, maybe its pressure/nerves or whatever, Meath, Galway was a fantastic game in 01 , Meath Down in 91, Great game, (even if Meath lost both) the Galway Kildare game in 08 , as I said its not just the finals its the whole season, terrible games happened all the time, but these days they are the norm rather than the exception." Meath, Galway in 2001 was a fantastic game ? Was that the game where Galway won 17-08 and should have won by a lot more ? Was that the game where Galway dominated for most of the match and missed a bagful ? Was that the game that was over as a contest with ten minutes to go ? I was at that match . Galway were fantastic . Meath were hammered . What you have to say about the qauality of matches doesn't stand up to scrutiny . This year we have had plenty of good matches . We have had new teams emerging . We have had plenty of high profile shocks . We have a lot of good teams left and plenty of games to look forward to . And all of that before you consider the quality of today's players . Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 21/07/2016 02:20:19 1887374 Link
Apart from a few good semi finals and finals (finals of 2005 and 2008 spring to mind) the late nineties/early noughties was the best period in my view in terms of consistently attractive football throughout those championships. Some of the football I saw from the seventies was awful. kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 21/07/2016 09:07:12 1887393 Link
2000 Al-Ireland championship was epic, drawn and replay against Armagh in Semi, draw and replay against Galway in the final, the last winner takes all Munster final, definitely one of Kerry's hardest won titles. Did that Meath fella say the 2001 final was a fantastic game? FFS, it was as one sided as the semi-final against Kerry that proceeded it!! TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 21/07/2016 09:49:00 1887411 Link
The Fab Fifties. Seven different All Ireland winners. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 21/07/2016 09:56:02 1887419 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "Meath, Galway in 2001 was a fantastic game ? Was that the game where Galway won 17-08 and should have won by a lot more ? Was that the game where Galway dominated for most of the match and missed a bagful ? Was that the game that was over as a contest with ten minutes to go ? I was at that match . Galway were fantastic . Meath were hammered . What you have to say about the qauality of matches doesn't stand up to scrutiny . This year we have had plenty of good matches . We have had new teams emerging . We have had plenty of high profile shocks . We have a lot of good teams left and plenty of games to look forward to . And all of that before you consider the quality of today's players ." Greengrass that all Ireland football final in 2001, if my memory serves me right it was level at half-time. The second half Galway just came out in the second half and blew Meath away. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 21/07/2016 12:18:47 1887534 Link
Replying To OLLIE: "Greengrass that all Ireland football final in 2001, if my memory serves me right it was level at half-time. The second half Galway just came out in the second half and blew Meath away." It was level at half time at six apiece Ollie but Galway had been by far the better team. Paraic Joyce missed a wide open goal very early in the second half but it was only delaying the inevitable as Galway were a far superior outfit to Meath. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 21/07/2016 17:32:37 1887820 Link
Football was last considered good...harks back to a dream-like nostalgic haze when my own county was at its most successful... was, entirely coincidentally, exactly the era my own county was at its peak. Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12126 - 21/07/2016 17:52:42 1887832 Link
Replying To OLLIE: "Greengrass that all Ireland football final in 2001, if my memory serves me right it was level at half-time. The second half Galway just came out in the second half and blew Meath away." Exactly Ollie. A nip and tuck game until second half , where Joyce was unbelievable, hard to watch from a Meath pov, however poetry in motion from a football perspective . Galway were sublime. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/07/2016 18:37:16 1887854 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "It was level at half time at six apiece Ollie but Galway had been by far the better team. Paraic Joyce missed a wide open goal very early in the second half but it was only delaying the inevitable as Galway were a far superior outfit to Meath." On that day I'm sure you had your maroon and white on, I am making the point of when games were good. So just leave your anti Meath bias aside. I picked two finals which Meath were not involved in winning to highlight my piunt. I could have said 99 , but Meath were above everyone that year by some distance. Including toying with cork in the final. royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 21/07/2016 18:43:28 1887857 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "Meath, Galway in 2001 was a fantastic game ? Was that the game where Galway won 17-08 and should have won by a lot more ? Was that the game where Galway dominated for most of the match and missed a bagful ? Was that the game that was over as a contest with ten minutes to go ? I was at that match . Galway were fantastic . Meath were hammered . What you have to say about the qauality of matches doesn't stand up to scrutiny . This year we have had plenty of good matches . We have had new teams emerging . We have had plenty of high profile shocks . We have a lot of good teams left and plenty of games to look forward to . And all of that before you consider the quality of today's players ." Winning margin in 2001 final was about right I thiught, I agree Galway should have scored more in first half as they missed a good bit but then everything went wrong for Meath in second half. In the third quarter Ollie Murphy (who going into game was favourite to win player of the year) broke his finger and had to be substituted, Nigel Nestor was sent off for a second booking and then 10 minutes before the end Trevor Giles missed a penalty which would have got Meath back into game. Meath really played into Galway's hand by switching Darren Fay off Joyce and onto Derek Savage. bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1361 - 21/07/2016 20:25:17 1887887 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "On that day I'm sure you had your maroon and white on, I am making the point of when games were good. So just leave your anti Meath bias aside. I picked two finals which Meath were not involved in winning to highlight my piunt. I could have said 99 , but Meath were above everyone that year by some distance. Including toying with cork in the final." You said Meath Galway in 2001 was a "fantastic game". It wasn't . Galway were fantastic . Meath were completely outplayed . Your reference to anti Meath bias is pathetic . I'm not the only to have called you out on this . The Hermit did too. Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 21/07/2016 22:42:19 1887954 Link
Replying To bdbuddah: "Winning margin in 2001 final was about right I thiught, I agree Galway should have scored more in first half as they missed a good bit but then everything went wrong for Meath in second half. In the third quarter Ollie Murphy (who going into game was favourite to win player of the year) broke his finger and had to be substituted, Nigel Nestor was sent off for a second booking and then 10 minutes before the end Trevor Giles missed a penalty which would have got Meath back into game. Meath really played into Galway's hand by switching Darren Fay off Joyce and onto Derek Savage." All of that is very fair comment bdbuddah. Ollie Murphy going off was a hammer blow . Giles penalty miss was followed immediately by a Paul Clancy point to put six between them . Putting Reilly on Joyce was a mistake . They had played together in college in Tralee . Reilly wasn't mobile enough for Joyce . Fay would have done a better job than anyone . However given the form Joyce was in I don't think anyone would have held him . Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 21/07/2016 22:49:07 1887960 Link
Replying To Greengrass: "All of that is very fair comment bdbuddah. Ollie Murphy going off was a hammer blow . Giles penalty miss was followed immediately by a Paul Clancy point to put six between them . Putting Reilly on Joyce was a mistake . They had played together in college in Tralee . Reilly wasn't mobile enough for Joyce . Fay would have done a better job than anyone . However given the form Joyce was in I don't think anyone would have held him ." fairly comical seeing meath posters reference the 2001 final as the peak..of course they see things as better when meath were going well like most fans will say similar..overall in terms of quality 2005 is the best season i can remember..great rivalry with tyrone-armagh...great final...kerry very good team..dublin-tyrone good games...even cork were starting to improve around then....on a fan level it was a positive year as dublin came back to being a decent side after a few ugly years and have dominated leinster ever since alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 21/07/2016 23:03:02 1887968 Link
Replying To royaldunne: "On that day I'm sure you had your maroon and white on, I am making the point of when games were good. So just leave your anti Meath bias aside. I picked two finals which Meath were not involved in winning to highlight my piunt. I could have said 99 , but Meath were above everyone that year by some distance. Including toying with cork in the final." Royaldunne in all fairness Greengrass calls it as he sees it. His two passions in life is the great Pats club in lovely Lordship and the wonderful Wee County. He also has a soft spot for the Blues and the super Drogs but keep that to yourself ha. OLLIE (Louth) - Posts: 12224 - 22/07/2016 12:47:17 1888146 Link
Replying To OLLIE: "Royaldunne in all fairness Greengrass calls it as he sees it. His two passions in life is the great Pats club in lovely Lordship and the wonderful Wee County. He also has a soft spot for the Blues and the super Drogs but keep that to yourself ha." Yeah Ollie I have a real soft spot for The Blues . The music that is . Big games this weekend . Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 22/07/2016 15:45:16 1888260 Link
I remember the 1950s with great affection.Paddy O'Brien,Mick Higgins,J.J.Reilly,Sean Purcell,Gerry O'Malley,Mick O'Connell,Kevin Heffernan,Ollie Freaney,Iggy Jones,Packy McGarty,Nace O'Dowd,Padraig Carney.....the list is endless.Unmanaged and uncoached those players played as individuals.They believed the ball was a round object to be caught and kicked.It's a pity there was no adequate camerawork at that time to catch the game as it was intended to be played.Those jerky little bits of footage which survive do not do justice to the game before the manager people "evolved" it . worple (Roscommon) - Posts: 340 - 22/07/2016 16:18:50 1888289 Link
The skill levels and the fitness levels of today's Gaelic football players is on a completely different level to what to was it was in the past. Very few players in the 50s, - 90s could kick with both feet, fist pass the ball with both hands, or had any real spacial awareness. Many of them were good fielders but they were competing against players who were also trying to catch the ball, unlike today where most opponents are using spoiling tactics. They are are either trying to break the ball away or crowding the jumper to prevent him getting a clean jump. (Even if he does manage to make a clean catch, the 'sharks' are waiting for him when he lands.) So our players are far superior athletes, with great awareness of their surroundings and excellent hand/eye coordination but, in most cases, it is all being negated by the imposition of 'systems' where individual flair and thinking are stiffled, so we get crap football. For me football was good when we still had one-on-one contests and the player with a bit of flair lit up the game. Of course we still had lots of poor games but their were individual displays that left a warm glow (not the gamesmanship that fuels so many post match conversations today). This was in a more innocent time before we got caught in the icy grip of 'the system'., neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 22/07/2016 17:42:08 1888320 Link
Dublin Region and Mayo contested the '13 final. Kerry and Donegal contested the '14 final. Some might see provincial champions from all provinces involved in successive finals as healthy and balanced competition. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7888 - 22/07/2016 20:48:18 1888354 Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uLkMdV2MCM Jump to 5 minutes. Dubs supposedly invincible Clare playing well Dives Players as fit as they have ever been To much pulling and dragging No flowing play Defences dominated Absence of quality forwards Players not able to kick the ball forward I'm afraid this isn't the present but the all ireland semi final from 1992. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/07/2016 22:00:59 1888371 Link