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Replying To therealtmo:  "That's my whole point the team can't develop when playing to a system, they are rigid and one dimension. If Waterford had being able to fall back and just play of the cuff natural hurling when the system was torn apart, then we could of said they have developed over the last three years, instead they were like rabbit in a head light. I think Clare might be slipping down this line to, both teams need to go back to just hurling cause they do have lovely young hurlers."
I agree with you regarding Clare as well. If I was a Clare fan I'd be asking serious questions of Fitzy over the last few years. Okay he won an All Ireland and that bought him leeway but had his corner back not knocked one over from the sideline in the drawn match he wouldn't still be in the job. They've only managed to beat Laois and Offaly since.

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 22/07/2016 21:22:03    1888362

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Replying To mr305:  "What basis do you put Clare ahead of Galway? It's not 2013 anymore... that was a long time ago. Since then, the only team of ANY note they have beaten in the Championship has been a very average Limerick team. 2 years ago they went out to Wexford... last year to Cork who then went on and were hammered by Galway. This year Clare lost to Waterford who then went and lost by 21points to Tipp.

Galway on the other hand are last years finalist's and currently the no2 team in the country (personally on form they are no 3 for me behind KK and Tipp). They hammered Dublin last year, beat Cork and then a very good Tipp team in the Semi. In the final they put in a first half performance which shows the potential of the team again reinforced by this years first half of the leinster final, as frustrating as the second half played out. When you match those two scripts side by side please explain why you favour Clare? I am from Galway but honestly call a spade a spade... I just don't see why so many people tip Clare, what do you base it on???"
And that is why i was shocked so many people on here fancied Clare. You can't magic up form out of nowhere... this Clare team is now 3 years since winning the AI and they, and all their tipsters, need to stop dining out off it so they can get back to basics and challenge again which is where I would want to see them... Hurling needs a competitive Clare, Waterford and Galway.

mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 46 - 25/07/2016 02:21:34    1889482

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Replying To mr305:  "And that is why i was shocked so many people on here fancied Clare. You can't magic up form out of nowhere... this Clare team is now 3 years since winning the AI and they, and all their tipsters, need to stop dining out off it so they can get back to basics and challenge again which is where I would want to see them... Hurling needs a competitive Clare, Waterford and Galway."
Tbh I didn't really analyse it as much as your good self and wasn't aware that I had become Ger Loughnane.

I simply fancied them on the basis that they had a bit of momentum and I believed they are a better team. Galway had also lost to Kilkenny again in the Leinster final and I thought they'd find it hard to lift themselves.

Oh did I mention.... I like their jerseys!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 25/07/2016 10:54:12    1889569

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Overall a disappointing days hurling yesterday.Waterford were too strong for Wexford and their hurling is very hard to watch or warm to.As a spectacle it was very poor.
Galway / Clare a much better game but still not a great game.It may be stretching things but you could almost say the game was decided by a coin toss.Once Galway won the toss and opted to play with the wind in the first half it was always going to be hard to see Clare coming back they way they are set up.A shame considering they have some really gifted hurlers.
JC's goal the highlight for me.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 25/07/2016 14:16:15    1889733

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i really hope (and think) waterford won't win an all ireland with this system.
also the waterford player blatantly dived trying to win a free in the last 10 minutes.thankfully the ref didn't fall for it.
i hate seeing that creep into our game.

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 25/07/2016 14:43:09    1889762

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@Condorman Clare won the toss and opted to play against the wind in the 1st half. I suppose your a Dub... ye know very little about the finer things...

clare_sparrow (Galway) - Posts: 426 - 25/07/2016 15:12:44    1889781

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Replying To Condorman:  "Overall a disappointing days hurling yesterday.Waterford were too strong for Wexford and their hurling is very hard to watch or warm to.As a spectacle it was very poor.
Galway / Clare a much better game but still not a great game.It may be stretching things but you could almost say the game was decided by a coin toss.Once Galway won the toss and opted to play with the wind in the first half it was always going to be hard to see Clare coming back they way they are set up.A shame considering they have some really gifted hurlers.
JC's goal the highlight for me."
A stretch? No more like a huge disservice to a completely compressive Galway performance!

Clare should have started Conor McGrath and taken him off once he was out of steam. The class he exhibited in his brief cameo. Tony Kelly was very disappointing on the other hand

mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 46 - 25/07/2016 16:10:43    1889835

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Replying To clare_sparrow:  "@Condorman Clare won the toss and opted to play against the wind in the 1st half. I suppose your a Dub... ye know very little about the finer things..."
Harsh. Condorman not only wears maroon coloured glasses when talking hurling, but in general he is one of the more even handed knowledgeable posters on the site. And in fairness, it was an odd decision by Clare to give the tactical advantage to a team with strong forward lines who can knock points over from all angles; they set themselves up to be chasing the game in the second half, which is fine if your team happens to be Kilkenny. Clare is no KK.

festinog (Galway) - Posts: 3097 - 25/07/2016 18:00:28    1889923

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Replying To clare_sparrow:  "@Condorman Clare won the toss and opted to play against the wind in the 1st half. I suppose your a Dub... ye know very little about the finer things..."
Really.On radio and TV yesterday they said Galway won the toss.Well at least ye won something!

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 25/07/2016 18:05:29    1889927

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Replying To perfect10:  "i really hope (and think) waterford won't win an all ireland with this system.
also the waterford player blatantly dived trying to win a free in the last 10 minutes.thankfully the ref didn't fall for it.
i hate seeing that creep into our game."
Now,Now don't be like that there is great respect between the two counties and I am sure the Deise people would not begrudge Wexford success.

Canuck (Waterford) - Posts: 2665 - 25/07/2016 18:25:03    1889936

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I don't care how Waterford win an All-Ireland and while their style of play is terrible stuff, if it gets them over the line I will be delighted for them and the first one to congratulate them.
But I don't see it happening and think it will be Kilkenny Tipp in the final.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 26/07/2016 08:38:14    1890125

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Both games played out as predicted. Clare miss Conor Ryan too much at centre back and i'm baffled why they are trying to make Mcinerny into a centre back and Pat o'Connor into a full/corner back. Tony Kelly is going similar to the way Noel McGrath went after he got 3 all stars before he was 21. To me he is the Michael Murphy of hurling...over hyped by the media. He like Austin Gleeson hits far too many pot shots and don't use possession properly.
Galway learned from the Leinster final and were hungry for goals and not taking the handy point from the 21. They will take lots of encouragment from the game eventhough it wasn't a brilliant performance. They still have problems at midfield though. David Burke played well but Colm Galvin ran the game and i'd give him an all star on that performance alone. I believe Daithi Burke got man of the match. I wouldnt be unhapppy to see him on Callinan the next day at all though. I feel he needs that extra split second to get the ball into his hand and maybe lacking a bit of hurling when the ball is on the ground. Not saying he's a bad player though but maybe not a full back.
Waterford were always going to win comfortably but they haven't a notion of beating KK playing like that. No goal threat at all. Paul murphy will have a field day back there. Brick's first points since 2008 backs up my point that he has to be dropped. One of my fav hurlers of all time but what's he going to do off any of the 3 kk half backs?

Unfortunately for Davy i think he has to walk away now. That system won't sin all irelands in a million years. It baffles me why Clare and Waterford don't trust their hurlers to play 15v15. On paper they have serious talent but they have to hold their hands up now and say they got it wrong and get back to playing hurling

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 26/07/2016 10:16:58    1890173

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Replying To mr305:  "And that is why i was shocked so many people on here fancied Clare. You can't magic up form out of nowhere... this Clare team is now 3 years since winning the AI and they, and all their tipsters, need to stop dining out off it so they can get back to basics and challenge again which is where I would want to see them... Hurling needs a competitive Clare, Waterford and Galway."
In fairness I think most people seem to listen to pundits on here without making their own minds up. Clare were never favs to beat Galway in my book. They were very poor against Limerick and have been dreadful in cship hurling last few years and visibly getting worse

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 26/07/2016 10:19:47    1890176

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