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Replying To Mayonman:  "Not sure about beating Dublin. They are a machine.

But the way the draw is they have a realistic chance of an All Ireland final. Only 1 possible Div 1 team in their way .....Mayo. They would be outsiders against Mayo or Tyrone but would have a decent chance. They will be hot favorites in Q final (that doesn't mean they can't lose it!)."
True. Have to win the qf first and as Galway proved this year the underdog can come out on top.

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1679 - 19/07/2016 22:56:03    1886743

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Replying To galwayfball:  "True. Have to win the qf first and as Galway proved this year the underdog can come out on top."
agree fully. 2 good wins under our belts but after a good number of years of losing to everyone i would not take any of the potential q final opposition for granted. my point was it is a realistic opportunity/ambition.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1844 - 20/07/2016 11:24:26    1886883

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Replying To TheWestIsAwake:  "I don't think for a minute Galway can win an All Ireland this year but I keep hearing Galway beat Mayo on an off day, it looks like they've had another 2 off days since. At what stage does and off day become the norm?

I haven't seen anything from Mayo to suggest there as good as last year."
Well they didn't exactly get hammered out the gate against Galway.I'm just saying even Barcelona occasionally lose to teams in the bottom half of the table if they don't get it quite right on the day,one loss against lower opposition doesn't make a weaker team better .Very thin line between good and bad in GAA.Mayo a team who have been top 2/3 in the country for the past number of years are suddenly thought of as out of the running because of a loss to a decent Galway team. Whilst ourselves almost lost to Cavan a team roughly on par to Galway and who in turn lost to an average Derry team ,then we scrapped by Donegal and yet we are now considered by many the best contenders to beat Dublin.

I don't think Mayo exactly had an off day against either Fermanagh or Kildare. They like Dublin against westmeath were half asleep in the first half against Fermanagh they woke up and pretty much blitzed Fermanagh in the second .

In saying that they did get a Dodge penalty but they would have won anyhow and there was a penatly claim earlier that probably should have been one so I don't see it as them scrapped over the line . The kildare game they played well first half then just seem to be happy with staying in or around 9/10 points up granted their midfield was far from spectacular and Cillian O Connor seems to be looking a little flat .Other from that their forwards look to be playing better .

Mayo are trying something different this year because they were leaking too many goals playing the free man to man stuff of old. They are playing a system they aren't used I don't think they have got any worse in terms of ability since last year, in fact I think they have better players this year with U-21s coming up but I do think they need to get a grasp of what ever system they are playing at the minute .They looked completely lost to their roles against Galway.Keith higgins and his sweeper role is a bit dodge but time will tell.I highly doubt they will be going anywhere soon although It's obvious Galway are improving rapidly .Connaught will be more interesting in the next few years that's for sure.

GameOfTyrones (Tyrone) - Posts: 469 - 20/07/2016 12:09:35    1886912

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I think they will cause problems for dubs, maybe smallest winning margin of year, to win it ? No but they might get to final if on opposite side to dubs, would love them to win but cant see it tho year.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 20/07/2016 12:42:18    1886931

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "Are Galway really one of the teams that can actually put a fight up to Dublin"
Would love to see Galway put it up to the stronger counties - they've already beaten Mayo and will cause any team in quarters headaches - theres 3 or 4 forwards they have will make most teams and defensively they've tightened up and their midfield is very strong also. If they go out and give it a go - why not?

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 20/07/2016 13:00:23    1886939

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Replying To GameOfTyrones:  "Well they didn't exactly get hammered out the gate against Galway.I'm just saying even Barcelona occasionally lose to teams in the bottom half of the table if they don't get it quite right on the day,one loss against lower opposition doesn't make a weaker team better .Very thin line between good and bad in GAA.Mayo a team who have been top 2/3 in the country for the past number of years are suddenly thought of as out of the running because of a loss to a decent Galway team. Whilst ourselves almost lost to Cavan a team roughly on par to Galway and who in turn lost to an average Derry team ,then we scrapped by Donegal and yet we are now considered by many the best contenders to beat Dublin.

I don't think Mayo exactly had an off day against either Fermanagh or Kildare. They like Dublin against westmeath were half asleep in the first half against Fermanagh they woke up and pretty much blitzed Fermanagh in the second .

In saying that they did get a Dodge penalty but they would have won anyhow and there was a penatly claim earlier that probably should have been one so I don't see it as them scrapped over the line . The kildare game they played well first half then just seem to be happy with staying in or around 9/10 points up granted their midfield was far from spectacular and Cillian O Connor seems to be looking a little flat .Other from that their forwards look to be playing better .

Mayo are trying something different this year because they were leaking too many goals playing the free man to man stuff of old. They are playing a system they aren't used I don't think they have got any worse in terms of ability since last year, in fact I think they have better players this year with U-21s coming up but I do think they need to get a grasp of what ever system they are playing at the minute .They looked completely lost to their roles against Galway.Keith higgins and his sweeper role is a bit dodge but time will tell.I highly doubt they will be going anywhere soon although It's obvious Galway are improving rapidly .Connaught will be more interesting in the next few years that's for sure."
No denying Mayo have been a great team here, just think there not operating at the level they were last year. In fact I think this team peaked in 2013/14 and have been on a downward spiral since. I think Galway have upped a level or even two and should hopefully improve next season to and become realistic challengers for the big prize. If Galway were to play Tyrone I'd expect Tyrone to win given their a slightly better team but with a far stronger bench which is hugely important. It will be interesting to see how many players turn down the chance to be part of Walsh's squad next year, I don't think he'l have the problems he had this year.

I expect Tyrone to beat Mayo based on everything I've seen this year and likewise I'd have expected Mayo to have beaten Tyrone if they'd have met last year.

TheWestIsAwake (UK) - Posts: 529 - 20/07/2016 13:31:49    1886968

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I think talk of Galway being up there in top 4 may be a little premature. I feel we are on the right track however and with such a young team I do think they could become contenders in next 2 - 3 years, depending on how long Kevin Walsh stays around - the talent is there. I have said from the start of this championship that i see no evidence that mayo have progressed from last year, quite the opposite in fact and I still stand by that. I don't see them getting past the quarters. I find it amusing how some team's stock seems to rise despite them not beating any top teams in the process. I'd put mayo and galway roughly on a par at the moment, but going in opposite directions.

Rocky.Road (Galway) - Posts: 374 - 20/07/2016 15:33:29    1887090

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Replying To Rocky.Road:  "I think talk of Galway being up there in top 4 may be a little premature. I feel we are on the right track however and with such a young team I do think they could become contenders in next 2 - 3 years, depending on how long Kevin Walsh stays around - the talent is there. I have said from the start of this championship that i see no evidence that mayo have progressed from last year, quite the opposite in fact and I still stand by that. I don't see them getting past the quarters. I find it amusing how some team's stock seems to rise despite them not beating any top teams in the process. I'd put mayo and galway roughly on a par at the moment, but going in opposite directions."
I agree with this..

How would you rate Walsh over the last management?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/07/2016 15:42:24    1887096

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Replying To TheWestIsAwake:  "No denying Mayo have been a great team here, just think there not operating at the level they were last year. In fact I think this team peaked in 2013/14 and have been on a downward spiral since. I think Galway have upped a level or even two and should hopefully improve next season to and become realistic challengers for the big prize. If Galway were to play Tyrone I'd expect Tyrone to win given their a slightly better team but with a far stronger bench which is hugely important. It will be interesting to see how many players turn down the chance to be part of Walsh's squad next year, I don't think he'l have the problems he had this year.

I expect Tyrone to beat Mayo based on everything I've seen this year and likewise I'd have expected Mayo to have beaten Tyrone if they'd have met last year."
Mayo have been a good team not a great team as a certain soccer pundit might say.
Great teams win the Sam.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 20/07/2016 15:43:20    1887099

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Mayo needed a completely freak goal, plus some very naive Galway fouling to beat them by a few points in 2015. That's why Galway were confident coming in this year when everyone had written them off. They knew the gap wasnt much between the sides despite the media perception. Talk of a Mayo off day this year is nonsense.

What Galway lack is real experience against the top sides (bar Mayo). These teams are tactically on another level and know their gameplans perfectly, as well as the obvious player quality. Galway struggled in this sense vs Donegal last year. They might be a year otrtwo removed from being in amongst the big boys yet, with inexperience likely to tell. Will be interesting to see however, should they make the Semis

jafallon (Galway) - Posts: 489 - 20/07/2016 15:51:34    1887106

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "I agree with this..

How would you rate Walsh over the last management?"
Chalk and cheese Ziggy. No disrespect to Mulholland, he was a nice fellow but he does not compare to Walsh in my eyes. I have huge respect for Walsh as a manager and as a man, not only for what he's doing with the senior team since he took over but for what he's trying to do to Galway football structures as a whole. He understands the modern game and also Galway football, he's modest, hard working and I hope he stays on for a few more years.

Rocky.Road (Galway) - Posts: 374 - 20/07/2016 15:55:07    1887111

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Replying To jafallon:  "Mayo needed a completely freak goal, plus some very naive Galway fouling to beat them by a few points in 2015. That's why Galway were confident coming in this year when everyone had written them off. They knew the gap wasnt much between the sides despite the media perception. Talk of a Mayo off day this year is nonsense.

What Galway lack is real experience against the top sides (bar Mayo). These teams are tactically on another level and know their gameplans perfectly, as well as the obvious player quality. Galway struggled in this sense vs Donegal last year. They might be a year otrtwo removed from being in amongst the big boys yet, with inexperience likely to tell. Will be interesting to see however, should they make the Semis"
Mayo were brutal V Galway.. Worst performance since Longford in the qualifiers..

Galway are improving but have faced nothing yet

unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 20/07/2016 16:02:59    1887121

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Replying To unclegerry:  "Mayo were brutal V Galway.. Worst performance since Longford in the qualifiers..

Galway are improving but have faced nothing yet"
They are the only side to have beaten 2 Division 1 teams in the championship so far.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 20/07/2016 16:10:39    1887128

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Replying To unclegerry:  "Mayo were brutal V Galway.. Worst performance since Longford in the qualifiers..

Galway are improving but have faced nothing yet"
Only going away from home and beating a consensus top 3 team. What about 2015 in Salthill so, we're Mayo desperate that day when they needed the galway keeper to kick it off his own defender for an OG to get the win? Mayo were poor this year because Galway made them look poor. A team will generally look bad when it's being beaten

jafallon (Galway) - Posts: 489 - 20/07/2016 17:01:43    1887150

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Replying To Rocky.Road:  "Chalk and cheese Ziggy. No disrespect to Mulholland, he was a nice fellow but he does not compare to Walsh in my eyes. I have huge respect for Walsh as a manager and as a man, not only for what he's doing with the senior team since he took over but for what he's trying to do to Galway football structures as a whole. He understands the modern game and also Galway football, he's modest, hard working and I hope he stays on for a few more years."
Mulholland kind of reminded me of Mick O'Dowd.. I did think Walsh would likely be a good appointment.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 20/07/2016 17:59:50    1887186

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Replying To jafallon:  "Only going away from home and beating a consensus top 3 team. What about 2015 in Salthill so, we're Mayo desperate that day when they needed the galway keeper to kick it off his own defender for an OG to get the win? Mayo were poor this year because Galway made them look poor. A team will generally look bad when it's being beaten"
Mayo were poor last year in Salthill but won. Not because of the keeper because of the persistent fouling of O Shea by Hanley in scorable positions

unclegerry (Mayo) - Posts: 1222 - 22/07/2016 15:53:03    1888267

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Replying To jafallon:  "Only going away from home and beating a consensus top 3 team. What about 2015 in Salthill so, we're Mayo desperate that day when they needed the galway keeper to kick it off his own defender for an OG to get the win? Mayo were poor this year because Galway made them look poor. A team will generally look bad when it's being beaten"
ja, lets see how ya get on against a division 1 team, will ye put it upto them in the semi.

saddam (Mayo) - Posts: 414 - 22/07/2016 16:17:59    1888288

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Replying To Rocky.Road:  "Chalk and cheese Ziggy. No disrespect to Mulholland, he was a nice fellow but he does not compare to Walsh in my eyes. I have huge respect for Walsh as a manager and as a man, not only for what he's doing with the senior team since he took over but for what he's trying to do to Galway football structures as a whole. He understands the modern game and also Galway football, he's modest, hard working and I hope he stays on for a few more years."
Can you post up here Rocky Road what changes Kevin Walsh is making to football structures in the county, it would be interesting to read about them.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 22/07/2016 16:37:08    1888297

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Replying To saddam:  "ja, lets see how ya get on against a division 1 team, will ye put it upto them in the semi."
Galway have already beaten 2 division one sides to win Connaught!!

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1758 - 22/07/2016 17:16:34    1888313

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Replying To thelongridge:  "Galway have already beaten 2 division one sides to win Connaught!!"
Galway are actually the only side the in the country to beat 2 division one sides so far.

Marooned (Galway) - Posts: 2225 - 23/07/2016 04:10:34    1888407

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