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Take Dublin out of Leinster (part 3)

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Leave the dubs alone they are more afraid of you than you are of them!..........or is that spiders? DoireCityFC (Derry) - Posts: 1580 - 17/07/2016 20:59:21 1885023 Link
I think there is a bit of an overreaction when it comes to Dublin. I believe that this is just an exceptional crop of dublin players at the moment and it looks like they they don't have the same standard of players coming through the ranks. Kildare just won back to back leinster minor titles to make it 3 from the last 4. Meath knocked dublin out of this year's championship. These counties are starting to get their act together. Dublin will continue to win leinster for the next couple of years but I for one am confident that kildare and meath will be back challenging again in a few years and all will be well in world again! ChillDara (Kildare) - Posts: 9 - 18/07/2016 08:42:39 1885211 Link
Don't agree with the general gist of this thread, if you said that we need a general review of the whole championship structure I would agree, but talking about leaving the same basic provincial structure in place but removing Dublin from Leinster is not right. We need to get our own house in order first and then see does the Leinster Championship become more competitive. Yes Dublin are winning Leinster without having a challenge but there is 2 reasons for this, Dublin are very good and the rest are so poor (in particular Meath who between the 1940's and early 2000's were a strong football force but now we have not been in the top division of the league since 2006 - back in the days of 16 teams in Division 1A and 1B). bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1358 - 18/07/2016 09:03:57 1885218 Link
The standard in Meath football is atrocious not becasue of dublin but because of the Meath county board and politics and in -fighting. Leinster outside dublin cant beat any other provisional team, thats nothing to do with dublin is to do with yourselves, your players, your management, your board. You should take a day trip to Kerry and ask them how they are the most dominant football team in the last 100 years with such a small population. Its because they are smarter and wiser than you begrudgers, Every time you open your gobs to moan you dig that wasteful hole that bit bigger and we in dublin will gladly push you into it heresam (Dublin) - Posts: 156 - 18/07/2016 09:16:48 1885225 Link
Replying To ChillDara: "I think there is a bit of an overreaction when it comes to Dublin. I believe that this is just an exceptional crop of dublin players at the moment and it looks like they they don't have the same standard of players coming through the ranks. Kildare just won back to back leinster minor titles to make it 3 from the last 4. Meath knocked dublin out of this year's championship. These counties are starting to get their act together. Dublin will continue to win leinster for the next couple of years but I for one am confident that kildare and meath will be back challenging again in a few years and all will be well in world again!" Are we supposed to believe that Dublin wont have more superstar players ready to come in once some of these ones walk away (Which wont wont be for 4/5 years by the way). Bit like believing in the tooth fairy! The difference is Dublin won't have to rely getting more than 1 or 2 players from any individual minor team, whereas Meath, Kildare or even Kerry will need to find 6/7 at least from good minor sides to compete with them and that doesn't happen very often. Transition from Minor to Senior is v.difficult only a small % make it realistically. KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 18/07/2016 09:50:00 1885251 Link
Replying To county man: "Easy to blame Dublin for the rest of Leinster's failings. If Kerry, Tyrone or Mayo to name only a few were in Leinster instead of Dublin they would destroy all the teams as well and if the likes of Kildare & Meath were in any other province they would still be nowhere. The problem with Leinster is that after Dublin, the only county ranked in the top 16 would be Longford and you can't blame Dublin for that. So counties need to look at their own house first before going down the easy route and blaming the Dubs for everything." I still think Dublin are 5 or 6 points better than Tyrone or Donegal. Just one example... Laois played Tyrone in the league and Tyrone won by 3 points whereas Dublin beat Laois by 10 points. Mayo would be capable of handing out a few hidings in Leinster. They're closer to Dublin in my humble opinion. I still back Mayo to win the All Ireland this year. crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 18/07/2016 10:07:12 1885268 Link
What good would winning a Leinster title be without Dublin opposition? Granted they hold all the aces at present, the structures are in place which are back by massive funding, huge playing numbers right through from senior to underage, but will they be able to replace the five or six key players in team at present. Players like this do not come along to often and while the Dubs coming through look to have potential they are still a long way off current standard. As for in fighting in Meath, I think the opposite is true, too many willing to accept our current predicament without asking the hard questions. Hopefully we get the right manager in place soon and concentrate on getting promotion to Division One. seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2150 - 18/07/2016 10:08:31 1885273 Link
Kildare will save Leinster. Will take a few though. I'd like to see Kildare play Dublin in Kildare in the championship never happen though. No decent stadium in Kildare crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 18/07/2016 10:13:56 1885285 Link
Replying To galwaydublin: "Why is it that Kerry, Mayo and Donegal with a smaller population than meath and kildare, can compete with Dublin in League and champs? Grow a pair meath, kildare, and laois and do something about it." Mayos population is the same as louths and we are able to give the dubs a game! Don't give me that Louth soccer bllcks they have won an all Ireland a couple of years after us. I'm in the Meath and Kildare cop themsleves on and pull the finger frame of mind! Spoddgy (Mayo) - Posts: 660 - 18/07/2016 10:24:38 1885294 Link
Replying To crikey: "I still think Dublin are 5 or 6 points better than Tyrone or Donegal. Just one example... Laois played Tyrone in the league and Tyrone won by 3 points whereas Dublin beat Laois by 10 points. Mayo would be capable of handing out a few hidings in Leinster. They're closer to Dublin in my humble opinion. I still back Mayo to win the All Ireland this year." Can't really compare league vs championship but yeah Dublin are probably 5/6 pts better than Tyrone at the moment . My point though is that Tyrone & Donegal etc would still walk Leinster, so the other counties can't just blame Dublin for how bad they are. county man (Limerick) - Posts: 1102 - 18/07/2016 21:08:13 1885882 Link
Replying To Joxer: "Jack, Dublin are hammering everyone at the moment. They are an exceptional team, the best to have ever played the game most would argue. What motivation has any team outside of Cork and Kerry in Munster, Mayo and Galway in Connaught, Tyrone, Donegal and Monaghan in Ulster? What's diverting money from Dublin going to do, build a second centre of excellence in Meath? How many do you need? Why should Dublin be punished for doing all the hard work, securing the sponsorship and putting the structures in place? Why should Meath and others be rewarded for their shambles of a Co board, in-fighting, complete disorganisation and disarray? Makes no sense." Dublin is more a region than a regular county with a third of Irelands population. How can any leinster county expect to bring in sponsorship anywhere near the millions Dublin get? Or the sports grant funding, or the gaa funding. It's so easy to say get it like Dublin have but the reality is other leinster counties can't. And we're already playing off a much smaller club and player base than the dubs. You already hold all the advantages. I guarantee you a lot of Dublin players take in a handy about of cash and perks from sponsorships too. The playing field couldn't be more uneven. Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 24/07/2016 07:17:20 1888949 Link
Replying To Jack_Goff: "Dublin is more a region than a regular county with a third of Irelands population. How can any leinster county expect to bring in sponsorship anywhere near the millions Dublin get? Or the sports grant funding, or the gaa funding. It's so easy to say get it like Dublin have but the reality is other leinster counties can't. And we're already playing off a much smaller club and player base than the dubs. You already hold all the advantages. I guarantee you a lot of Dublin players take in a handy about of cash and perks from sponsorships too. The playing field couldn't be more uneven." How dare you bring facts into the equation Jack! Luckily for the likes ye and Kildare there will be special funding about to be put into the east coast populated areas according to Aogan Feragail while us poor sods on the west coast will be neglected as usual KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 24/07/2016 12:24:28 1889066 Link
Yes I agree with taking Dublin out of Leinster but I say drop them in Mongolia with no flights home and give the rest of us a chance of winning Sam riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 24/07/2016 15:48:29 1889173 Link
Povincial league and group then knockout in championship? JammyDodger (Meath) - Posts: 306 - 24/07/2016 23:11:24 1889447 Link

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