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Ciaran Whelan on S G

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Agree totally. When it comes to the North and Ulster, the GAA and Southern media have a very partitionist, anti Northern agenda whether it be sport or politics. RTE and The Independent group in particular are rabidly anti Northern Nationalist, pro-Unionist and that comes across in their political and sporting reporting. They don't even pretend to hide their bias anymore, in fact they wallow in it and wear it as a badge of pride,"
You think everyone is against you but I don't remember any punit been as negative about a Ulster team as brolly has been about roscommon in the 2 games rte have covered this year.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 14/07/2016 10:47:29    1882966

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Replying To ROS1:  "You think everyone is against you but I don't remember any punit been as negative about a Ulster team as brolly has been about roscommon in the 2 games rte have covered this year."
Good point. Galway got a fair pasting too

Combined with the Aidan O'Shea outrage, surely there must be an anti Connacht bias?

*Feigned outrage for 10 pages...

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 14/07/2016 11:17:31    1882988

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Replying To ROS1:  "You think everyone is against you but I don't remember any punit been as negative about a Ulster team as brolly has been about roscommon in the 2 games rte have covered this year."
I assume you must have missed his criticism of Armagh and his personal attacks on Ciaran McGeeeney.

2setsofrules (Down) - Posts: 99 - 14/07/2016 12:00:53    1883029

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I don't think he comes across much different as a pundit than he did to me as a player. Was a great guy when things were going well and he was allowed to do as he pleased, smiley and pally with the ref etc. Sure he was known for some dirty tackles in his time!

oso (Antrim) - Posts: 168 - 14/07/2016 12:26:25    1883047

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I think anything Brolly says can be taken with a pinch of salt. Attention seeker.

Re the difference in Whelans comments re O'Shea and McCann my reading of it is as follows:

McCann clearly did what he did. Not any room for doubt. Therefore he was on completely safe ground going for the kill. The O'Shea incident on the other hand while it looked a complete dive we cannot be 100% sure that he wasn't pushed/pulled because of the poor camera angle.

I know people will come on and slate me and say they are 100% sure but how can you be. I think it was a dive, so I am not arguing otherwise. All I am saying is that it leaves a doubt in the back of a pundits head and probably stops him going for it.

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1835 - 14/07/2016 13:14:05    1883096

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Replying To Mayonman:  "I think anything Brolly says can be taken with a pinch of salt. Attention seeker.

Re the difference in Whelans comments re O'Shea and McCann my reading of it is as follows:

McCann clearly did what he did. Not any room for doubt. Therefore he was on completely safe ground going for the kill. The O'Shea incident on the other hand while it looked a complete dive we cannot be 100% sure that he wasn't pushed/pulled because of the poor camera angle.

I know people will come on and slate me and say they are 100% sure but how can you be. I think it was a dive, so I am not arguing otherwise. All I am saying is that it leaves a doubt in the back of a pundits head and probably stops him going for it."
Totally disagree. What McCann did cannot be condoned but it was not unique. In recent years other players in high profile games (including Aidan O'Shea) have dived in the same embarrassing way. So why then was it ok 'going for the kill' on McCann? You and others like you can make excuses for O'Shea and convince yourself that he didn't dive but most neutral observers will remain highly sceptical given his fondness for diving in recent years. Tiernan McCann was relatively unknown prior to his diving and received an unprecedented level of abuse but O'Shea with his history of diving is still receiving the benefit of the doubt. Surely at this point it is ok 'going for the kill' with O'Shea.

2setsofrules (Down) - Posts: 99 - 14/07/2016 19:17:26    1883413

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