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Ciaran Whelan on S G

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Replying To rossy15:  "Alex Ferguson...esk"
Ha the Ferguson reference was a comparison to mickey harte ... not Eamon o hara ☺

rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 619 - 13/07/2016 07:35:17    1882296

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Replying To IrishGael3:  "Have to admit I was nearly sick watching Ronaldo tonight but I defo had to run to the loo after to listening to Whelan on SG ref the abuse O'Shea was getting on social media about his dive and that each player should not be subject to such witch hunts. He then referenced T McCanns abuse last year - is he for real he was one of the cheerleaders who was calling for him to be hung, drawn and quartered. I also remember his silence after the McMahon dive where he couldn't criticise his fellow Dublin man."
CW didn't bottle it re McMahon - McStay had already gutted him so need. Plus a lot of the abuse McMahon got on social media was from some of the beloved Blue army. McMahon epitomises this generation of Dubs, fast, mobile, no fixed position, this is how the game is evolving. Maybe CW and McStay etc have a long way to go to catch up.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 13/07/2016 10:37:39    1882379

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The panels are biased and usually give very poor analysis of the game- The behave like parrots in most incidents without picking up more serious incidents when the county involved includes a panel member. You watch RTE (which most of us pay a licence to) and the coverage of some matches is exceptionally poor. Last weekend they give maybe 10mins covering a league of Ireland match where there was about 200 spectators and on the previous day gave 1 to 2 minutes covering matches that had over 10k spectators.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 13/07/2016 11:38:24    1882421

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Replying To CurranCake1:  "Complete drivel by Harte saying McNulty dive cost them penalty.how bout McNabb taking head off Gouch and only getting yellow? Referee will to be on guard for McCarron antics and the Cavanaghs diving"
It wasnt just harte saying it. Brolly highlighted it in the studio that the ref had been harsh not to give the penalty. Even he thought it should have been given.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 13/07/2016 12:44:02    1882461

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Replying To kevin03:  "It wasnt just harte saying it. Brolly highlighted it in the studio that the ref had been harsh not to give the penalty. Even he thought it should have been given."
How this isn't a penalty I will never know

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv2PiESDLAo

Both arms round the player and swings him to ground

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 13/07/2016 13:02:46    1882477

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kevin03- It was an obvious penalty and a very poor Ref decision- and would have been a foul with the oval ball also

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 13/07/2016 13:24:44    1882490

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Replying To arock:  "CW didn't bottle it re McMahon - McStay had already gutted him so need. Plus a lot of the abuse McMahon got on social media was from some of the beloved Blue army. McMahon epitomises this generation of Dubs, fast, mobile, no fixed position, this is how the game is evolving. Maybe CW and McStay etc have a long way to go to catch up."
I agree with you there they need to get with the program.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 13/07/2016 15:15:31    1882586

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Replying To kevin03:  "It wasnt just harte saying it. Brolly highlighted it in the studio that the ref had been harsh not to give the penalty. Even he thought it should have been given."
How this isn't a penalty I will never know

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv2PiESDLAo

Both arms round the player and swings him to ground

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 13/07/2016 15:26:39    1882593

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Replying To jacktheDub:  "while were on the subject of pundit's have to give a mention Jarlath Burns at least he called AOS on his diving unlike D Dolan who nearly choked on his words trying to defend the indefensible.

Standard of punditry in general is very poor. As mentioned before there are a few pundits that just like to make headlines McHugh in particular is very poor this man once called the gooch a one trick pony.

On the subject of pundit's criticising there own counties this it the one thing that bugs me the most the pundits are payed to give there honest opinions but this very rarely happens. The likes of O'Se's, O' cinneide, Quirke, Liston, Horan, Paul Curran when reviewing matches involving there own counties will nearly almost pick there own county rather than be seen to go against them."
Would agree alot of pundits use there positions to have a go at people/counties the don't like

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 13/07/2016 15:43:01    1882601

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Replying To seanie_boy:  "He doesn't talk to RTE for his own very personal reasons. What's more he is right not to. They are a disgraceful institution in more ways than one. You seem unusually interested in Mickey Harte for a Roscommon man."
I very much doubt he is from roscommon

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 13/07/2016 15:46:52    1882608

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I see Mickey Harte going on about Ciarán Whelans comments on Sunday Game,surely as this is RTE programme is it not hypocritical of Mickey even watching this , when he can't even bother talking to them

topdownfan (Down) - Posts: 555 - 13/07/2016 17:23:06    1882673

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I don't mind Whelan too much, he isn't a great pundit though, I think Mc Stay had a better football brain or he was better at getting his point across anyway,
The Rte panel on both the SGL and the SG is rubbish though, you just know before they speak what they are going to say,
Horan and JMG are much better on Sky, indeed BBC norn iron has the best coverage of all,who'd have thought that.
Whelan reminds me a bit of Shearer across the water. Total rubbish what he said about AOS though.

TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 13/07/2016 17:36:12    1882685

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Replying To ROS1:  "I very much doubt he is from roscommon"
I doubt very much that you're from Roscommon yerself.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 13/07/2016 18:02:54    1882693

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Replying To topdownfan:  "I see Mickey Harte going on about Ciarán Whelans comments on Sunday Game,surely as this is RTE programme is it not hypocritical of Mickey even watching this , when he can't even bother talking to them"
Yawnnnnnn… you are like a broken record. We get it you don't like Tyrone but the reason why Mickey Harte does not speak to RTE has been explained to you several times in previous discussions. You are obviously either a slow learner or a WUM, albeit a terrible one.

2setsofrules (Down) - Posts: 99 - 13/07/2016 18:10:55    1882699

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Replying To tyroneed:  "Whelan not the only one to show bias. Independent had an 'analysis' following a dive by Aidan O Shea of Mayo where they mentioned Mayo 3 times and Tyrone 6 times. Southern Media is not impartial and it is therefore a huge problem that they are allowed dictate who is put forward for bans, what referees should look out for, etc."
Agree totally. When it comes to the North and Ulster, the GAA and Southern media have a very partitionist, anti Northern agenda whether it be sport or politics. RTE and The Independent group in particular are rabidly anti Northern Nationalist, pro-Unionist and that comes across in their political and sporting reporting. They don't even pretend to hide their bias anymore, in fact they wallow in it and wear it as a badge of pride,

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 13/07/2016 23:57:20    1882855

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Replying To Whammo86:  "The Eamonn O'Hara one was full on mental.

I hate when these guys are allowed to go off on their own petty little vendettas.

As for Ciaran Whelan, he put me off Dublin big time when he was playing. Wasn't afraid to have a stray elbow flying about. Glad he's not around I've no reason not to enjoy this current Dublin team."
That's exactly what it was, a petty vendetta by O'Hara. What annoys me is that the Sunday game doesn't go out live so they could have easily removed it from the show.

It probably is a case of The Sunday Gams trying to change from being too critical last year to being more diplomatic this year with the obvious exception of Brolly.

I can see where the Tyrone paranoia comes from because they are basically the Millwall of GAA.

What that Tyrone player did last year to get the Monaghan player sent off was a disgrace. O'Shea conned the referee to win a penalty not to get the Fermanagh full back sent off.

It's very hard on Fermanagh and I wouldn't blame Pete McGrath and Fermanagh for being pissed off because it is a very hard pill to swallow as the away team.

I know Tom Smith came on here saying referees are only human and he is right. I think the blame rests with the GAA because the umpires don't appear to be properly trained to spot these incidents. I could easily see how McQuillan might buy the dive but he has two umpires with him who had a better view of it than him and didn't spot it.

Anyway as I said in my first post everyone seems to give the Sunday Game analysts too much respect. I get more sense and learn more about the game by reading posts here.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 14/07/2016 03:41:42    1882881

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Replying To 2setsofrules:  "Yawnnnnnn… you are like a broken record. We get it you don't like Tyrone but the reason why Mickey Harte does not speak to RTE has been explained to you several times in previous discussions. You are obviously either a slow learner or a WUM, albeit a terrible one."
Seems to be 2 sets of rules alright,!!!! Won't put on what I post ,

topdownfan (Down) - Posts: 555 - 14/07/2016 08:49:22    1882903

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Replying To seanie_boy:  "He doesn't talk to RTE for his own very personal reasons. What's more he is right not to. They are a disgraceful institution in more ways than one. You seem unusually interested in Mickey Harte for a Roscommon man."
He doesn't talk to RTE for his own very personal reasons. What's more he is right not to. They are a disgraceful institution in more ways than one. You seem unusually interested in Mickey Harte for a Roscommon man.

please explain?? i made 2 comments on MH. He top manager but should be concentrating on sunday instead of the mind games

CurranCake1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 130 - 14/07/2016 08:54:00    1882904

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Look lads when its all said and done, mayo has as much chance of winning the all ireland, as liverpool has of winning the prem. Which aint ever going to happen.

hogan35 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 93 - 14/07/2016 09:26:32    1882915

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Replying To seanie_boy:  "I doubt very much that you're from Roscommon yerself."
Well I am man so there lol

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 14/07/2016 10:42:09    1882962

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