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Ciaran Whelan on S G

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Replying To gormdubhgorm:  "I remember that Eamon O'Hara rant I am amazed he got away with it!"
Alex Ferguson...esk

rossy15 (Roscommon) - Posts: 619 - 12/07/2016 21:52:04    1882172

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Replying To CurranCake1:  "I thought Harte didnt watch RTE?"
The hat must not have covered his eyes completely! :)

gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 12/07/2016 22:02:26    1882180

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Replying To CurranCake1:  "Complete drivel by Harte saying McNulty dive cost them penalty.how bout McNabb taking head off Gouch and only getting yellow? Referee will to be on guard for McCarron antics and the Cavanaghs diving"
Notice again you only mention Tyrone misdemeanours and not that of the other 31 counties including your own - I wonder why that's the case? I agree with Harte pointing out the hypothocracy of Whelan as it needs to be called out. Mick O'Dowd has also spoken about panellists and their antics this week. If these so called experts want to call out what's wrong with the game then by all means do it - but have balance and not use it as an opportunity to settle vendettas or air prejudices.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 12/07/2016 22:09:11    1882187

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Replying To gormdubhgorm:  "He admitted as much when he was laughing and joking with Tomas o'Se on numerous occasions when they discuss thier favourite topic of giving and taking a belt. He would say he got away with a few of those in his time etc....
But I think it is bit of a Meath man trying to sound holier then thou. Look at the 80's meath team and look at the 2010 leinster final...."
Good God you some real serious issues with the Royalers why bring bring that into it when clearly Whelan is wrong his punditry is clearly biased so just accept it and stop trying to defend him

runnerin (Meath) - Posts: 202 - 12/07/2016 22:10:49    1882191

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "Whelan's impartiality is now in question as a pundit. The hypocrisy was there for everyone to see and the chances of Tyrone reconciling with RTE are now as far away as ever. It was the sheer duplicity of what Whelan said regarding O'Shea compared to his attack on McCann and Tyrone last year. He also bottled criticising Dublin in any shape or form last season when they got up to various demeanours. It just reinforces the siege mentality and real belief that two Associations and two sets of rules within the media and GAA exist, one for Ulster and one for the rest."
How do you explain the amount of rubbish joe brolly comes out with? Far worse than whelan

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 12/07/2016 22:14:47    1882193

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Replying To ROS1:  "How do you explain the amount of rubbish joe brolly comes out with? Far worse than whelan"
Joe Brolly is a shock jock. He is full of absolute dung and isn't taken seriously by anyone. His personal attacks on players and management should have seen him dismissed umpteen times over. RTE really do need to replace all the deadwood asap.

2setsofrules (Down) - Posts: 99 - 12/07/2016 22:34:13    1882212

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Replying To IrishGael3:  "Notice again you only mention Tyrone misdemeanours and not that of the other 31 counties including your own - I wonder why that's the case? I agree with Harte pointing out the hypothocracy of Whelan as it needs to be called out. Mick O'Dowd has also spoken about panellists and their antics this week. If these so called experts want to call out what's wrong with the game then by all means do it - but have balance and not use it as an opportunity to settle vendettas or air prejudices."
Great to see US fans watching gaelic games. The article was about Tyrone so that why I referred to their antics

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 12/07/2016 22:45:22    1882223

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Replying To 2setsofrules:  "Joe Brolly is a shock jock. He is full of absolute dung and isn't taken seriously by anyone. His personal attacks on players and management should have seen him dismissed umpteen times over. RTE really do need to replace all the deadwood asap."
Agree I have to change the channel when he comes on

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 12/07/2016 22:46:03    1882224

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Replying To IrishGael3:  "Notice again you only mention Tyrone misdemeanours and not that of the other 31 counties including your own - I wonder why that's the case? I agree with Harte pointing out the hypothocracy of Whelan as it needs to be called out. Mick O'Dowd has also spoken about panellists and their antics this week. If these so called experts want to call out what's wrong with the game then by all means do it - but have balance and not use it as an opportunity to settle vendettas or air prejudices."
To be fair I think Whelan acknowledged his was harsh on Mccann last year

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 12/07/2016 22:50:56    1882228

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Replying To CurranCake1:  "I thought Harte didnt watch RTE?"
Whoever said that? Although many more games like last Sunday's and there won't be many left watching the "football" on it anyway.

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 12/07/2016 22:51:11    1882229

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while were on the subject of pundit's have to give a mention Jarlath Burns at least he called AOS on his diving unlike D Dolan who nearly choked on his words trying to defend the indefensible.

Standard of punditry in general is very poor. As mentioned before there are a few pundits that just like to make headlines McHugh in particular is very poor this man once called the gooch a one trick pony.

On the subject of pundit's criticising there own counties this it the one thing that bugs me the most the pundits are payed to give there honest opinions but this very rarely happens. The likes of O'Se's, O' cinneide, Quirke, Liston, Horan, Paul Curran when reviewing matches involving there own counties will nearly almost pick there own county rather than be seen to go against them.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 12/07/2016 22:52:26    1882231

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Ciaran whelan went along way down in my book, when he and Des dolan stated on TSG on June 12th that roscommon were going to be playing Mayo in the connacht final, a full six days before galway triumphant storming of castlebar. No analysis of how we could give mayo problems, just a statement of fact as if they had qualified and galway were nothing.

As for the different reactions, he probably learned his lesson from last year and is more measured this year.

galwaydublin (Galway) - Posts: 226 - 12/07/2016 23:08:22    1882242

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Replying To Gael85:  "To be fair I think Whelan acknowledged his was harsh on Mccann last year"
No he never did.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 12/07/2016 23:16:23    1882248

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Replying To Gael85:  "Great to see US fans watching gaelic games. The article was about Tyrone so that why I referred to their antics"
Coulple of things: 1) I was replying to Currancake not you so please be more more attentive 2) so you have to live in Ireland to have an opinion? (by the way I do live in Ireland now) and 3) this thread is about hypocracy of CW and the fact he ripped into a young Ulster footballer and didn't do the same to Dublin or Kerry footballer misdeamours - exactly what Currancake was doing hence me calling him out. As an outsider as you like to point out - it's pathetic that this continues like it does by a small number of people on these forums.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 12/07/2016 23:22:53    1882254

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Whelan is poor on the sunday game i really struggle to listen to anything he says as its been pointed out he thinks the sun shines out of the dubs arse afraid to say what everybody can see happening when there playing.
Only way to stop this is don't let people comment on there own team.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 706 - 12/07/2016 23:29:09    1882257

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Replying To IrishGael3:  "Coulple of things: 1) I was replying to Currancake not you so please be more more attentive 2) so you have to live in Ireland to have an opinion? (by the way I do live in Ireland now) and 3) this thread is about hypocracy of CW and the fact he ripped into a young Ulster footballer and didn't do the same to Dublin or Kerry footballer misdeamours - exactly what Currancake was doing hence me calling him out. As an outsider as you like to point out - it's pathetic that this continues like it does by a small number of people on these forums."
Apologies for patronising us comment gael. In fairness I think curran is saying article is about Tyrone. Wouldn't agree on what he said. Whelan was wrong last year. Should have lambasted Philly actions .

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 12/07/2016 23:44:11    1882268

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Replying To Yourjoking:  "Whelan is poor on the sunday game i really struggle to listen to anything he says as its been pointed out he thinks the sun shines out of the dubs arse afraid to say what everybody can see happening when there playing.
Only way to stop this is don't let people comment on there own team."
Whelan is only doing what Spillane and Mc Stay were doing for years. Agree need neutral pundits for games. Whelan has a good tactical knowledge of game and one of the few pundits who does his homework on teams.

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 12/07/2016 23:52:29    1882270

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Replying To CurranCake1:  "I thought Harte didnt watch RTE?"
No, its that he doesnt talk to RTE for well documented reasons.
I wonder will Whelan reply or will he leave it to a fellow panelist to have a dig especially should Tyrone lose ... something along the lines of 'MH should have concentrated on winning instead of playing mind games with pundits etc '

I am amazed at how spineless the Ulster Council are still allowing RTE have control over coverage of their Championship when BBC do such a fair and balanced presentation. I say this after a decade of unacceptable very personal abuse hurled at their amateur participants from TSG panel. Then again its possible that Croke Park have the final say. I recall BBC doing a fine job in the late 80s/early 90s before Ulster teams started to win titles and RTE became interested.

Curlew66 (Roscommon) - Posts: 507 - 13/07/2016 00:05:49    1882275

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Replying To CurranCake1:  "I thought Harte didnt watch RTE?"
He doesn't talk to RTE for his own very personal reasons. What's more he is right not to. They are a disgraceful institution in more ways than one. You seem unusually interested in Mickey Harte for a Roscommon man.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 13/07/2016 05:50:20    1882291

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Whelan not the only one to show bias. Independent had an 'analysis' following a dive by Aidan O Shea of Mayo where they mentioned Mayo 3 times and Tyrone 6 times. Southern Media is not impartial and it is therefore a huge problem that they are allowed dictate who is put forward for bans, what referees should look out for, etc.

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 13/07/2016 07:07:14    1882294

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