tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3861 - 21/07/2016 09:55:20    1887418

I totally disagree with you when you ask why should the public have access to Referees reports. Well I will tell you why and that is because we the paying public have a right to know why an action was taken or indeed in the case of DC why it was not taken. We should known when the Cavan man was sent off why the other fellow was not dealt with. Indeed I will go further and say that if a voluntary group/Gaa club organised a question and answer session (as a fundraiser) with some well known referees it would fill the house. Play back a few clips and ask the referee why he took the action that he didnt. Only for wee Joe. Pat. and Colm on the SG sure Referees would be sacrosanct and we would have no voice to question them at all=
tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts:2659 - 21/07/2016 09:55:20 The paying public have no right to seeing what is said about a referee in reports like this.
I suppose the paying public in your opinion should also have a right to see what coaches of their county are saying and doing with players in each training session and in dressing room before every game.
Yes referees need to improve but their assessment should only be made available to them and to any that they choose to show it to. Possibly referees could go meet public and discuss why they did x or y in a game but that should only ever happen if the culture around refereeing changed and referees were treated better by coaches, players, supporters and the media alike

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 21/07/2016 10:36:11    1887441

I suppose the paying public in your opinion should also have a right to see what coaches of their county are saying and doing with players in each training session and in dressing room before every game.
Yes referees need to improve but their assessment should only be made available to them and to any that they choose to show it to. Possibly referees could go meet public and discuss why they did x or y in a game but that should only ever happen if the culture around refereeing changed and referees were treated better by coaches, players, supporters and the media alike

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts:11483 - 21/07/2016 10:36:11

Ormondbannerman Tomsmith Cavan here
While I have to respect the views of a poster with 11483 posts I have to be permitted to express my own views and indeed attempt to correct you when I feel you are mislead when you state you feel no good would come out of Referees assessments being shown. You then attempt draw a parell with Team managers and coaches pre game talks which is not comparable. I again say that the GAA has nothing to hide and why not show reports to the general public or failing that let the assessors come out onto the open Who are these people that assess let them come to a County and explain /Justify why an action /inaction was taken or not taken. Sure it would lead to great nights crack in the defeated teams home town

tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts: 3861 - 23/07/2016 16:04:06    1888550

While I have to respect the views of a poster with 11483 posts I have to be permitted to express my own views and indeed attempt to correct you when I feel you are mislead when you state you feel no good would come out of Referees assessments being shown. You then attempt draw a parell with Team managers and coaches pre game talks which is not comparable. I again say that the GAA has nothing to hide and why not show reports to the general public or failing that let the assessors come out onto the open Who are these people that assess let them come to a County and explain /Justify why an action /inaction was taken or not taken. Sure it would lead to great nights crack in the defeated teams home town
tomsmith (Cavan) - Posts:2660 - 23/07/2016 16:04:06Quit with the nonsense Tom. A coaches talk is very much comparable. The referee has a lot to lose from such report being made public as an assessment being made public has a direct bearing on that referees next appointment and all those that follow.
Referees shouldn't have to explain all decisions they make in a game unless they are specifically talking to a referee development officer or someone specifically appointed to watch them referee games.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 23/07/2016 16:42:44    1888559

In fairness Tomsmith about 4/5 of those posts were ormo demanding that people spell his name properly.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 23/07/2016 17:20:44    1888575

the amount of frees for over carrying in this game is ridiculous. so much for giving the attacking player the benefit of the doubt

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 23/07/2016 18:18:56    1888598

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 23/07/2016 20:54:26    1888768