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Replying To baire:  "It's more than half hour extra for some ppl. I think you have a Pale view of matters, Cue!
Galway is a big county and there are loyal hurling supporters in Connemara as well as east of the Corrib. Most of the driving from Clifden to Thurles is not even a dual carriageway.

Here's the difference between Thurles and Limerick. The drive to Lk is shorter and easier.
Clifden to Thurles: 216 km, 3.5 hrs [7hrs in total

Clifden to Gaelic Grounds: 170 Km, 2.5 hrs [5 hrs in total]"]I realise that baire but i'm talking about the fairest venue for all four counties in a double-header.Waterford,Wexford,Galway and Clare?I think Thurles is about the best.Baire where would you like a double header or would you prefer two stand alone games in seperate venues?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 12/07/2016 13:46:26    1881799

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Ah yes, Clifden, the home of Galway hurling.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 12/07/2016 15:21:06    1881908

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cue limerick city to thurles inc parking takes around an hour - thurles to limerick for a big game takes longer as you cant park near the ground and have to walk out from city

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 12/07/2016 15:29:08    1881913

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There will be less than 35,000 in Thurles Sun week. Playing it in venues nearer to home is the way to go.

mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 12/07/2016 15:37:25    1881922

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Replying To cuederocket:  "
Replying To baire:  "It's more than half hour extra for some ppl. I think you have a Pale view of matters, Cue!
Galway is a big county and there are loyal hurling supporters in Connemara as well as east of the Corrib. Most of the driving from Clifden to Thurles is not even a dual carriageway.

Here's the difference between Thurles and Limerick. The drive to Lk is shorter and easier.
Clifden to Thurles: 216 km, 3.5 hrs [7hrs in total

Clifden to Gaelic Grounds: 170 Km, 2.5 hrs [5 hrs in total
"]I realise that baire but i'm talking about the fairest venue for all four counties in a double-header.Waterford,Wexford,Galway and Clare?I think Thurles is about the best.Baire where would you like a double header or would you prefer two stand alone games in seperate venues?"]I think it's time for Galway, who have played all of their championship matches outside of Connacht since the GAA was founded, to get a bit of recognition for their contribution to hurling at both club and inter county level. Thurles may be the home of the GAA, but anyone who knows the history of the GAA knows that it was cricket and not hurling that was being played in KK and Tipp when Cusack made his tour of the country and stated that hurling was strongest in Galway.
The fact that no Leinster county offered to play in Pearse Stadium since Galway's arrival in the Leinster Championship should oblige those at the top to take note!
So Galway, a proud hurling county, with an unbroken tradition of hurling has to play all of its championship games in either Munster or Leinster! That seems fair, if not Cromwellian!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 12/07/2016 16:32:50    1881959

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Replying To keeper7:  "Ah yes, Clifden, the home of Galway hurling."
There was more hurling in Connemara and in Longford than there was in either KK or Tipp before the GAA was formed in 1884!

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 12/07/2016 16:36:01    1881965

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Replying To baire:  "There was more hurling in Connemara and in Longford than there was in either KK or Tipp before the GAA was formed in 1884!"
Not a lot in either place now!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 12/07/2016 18:01:49    1882032

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Replying To cuederocket:  "The quarter finals have been a double header in Thurles for a few years now hill.It makes sense.As well as the four participating counties most neutrals would like to see two live games.Your option of the two games at different venues makes little sense."
I know they have been and they only get around 30 thousand each year as a double header. Wexford v waterford in nowlan park would get about 20-25 thousand.
Galway v Clare in gaelic grounds would get similar 20-25 thousand.
plus your on about neutrals Kilkenny and limerick are both hurling counties so you would be inclined to pull in more neutrals

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/07/2016 19:21:54    1882057

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Replying To keeper7:  "Not a lot in either place now!"
It's spreading westwards again, eg Moycullen & Micheál Breathnach

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 12/07/2016 19:23:24    1882058

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Replying To cuederocket:  "Your obsessed with fans having to drive an extra half hour to get somewhere hill haha.Oooogh Waterford had to travel all over the world to get to Limerick instead of Thurles ; what a shocker.An extra 10e fuel and back home a wee bit later.Your making a mountain out of a mole hill,hill.Thurles is the best option for a double-header."
Well judging by the big fall in attendance for the munster final from 43 thousand in thurles last year to only 26 thousand in gaelic grounds this year it seems 17 thousand others felt it was not far out of the way for them to go.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/07/2016 19:26:05    1882060

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Replying To janesboro:  "cue limerick city to thurles inc parking takes around an hour - thurles to limerick for a big game takes longer as you cant park near the ground and have to walk out from city"
Exactly it makes more sense to play galway v clare in gaelic grounds than last weekends tipp v Waterford game for supporters.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/07/2016 19:29:31    1882062

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Replying To juniorjudge:  "They will bounce back. Tipp were impressive"
Yeah it was one of those strange matches that is impossible to make sense of. McGrath is a good manager and will fix this ahead of the Wexford game. A good few lads will get a shot at redemption tomorrow night with the under 21s. Hopefully they will get a good turnout in support of the team.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 12/07/2016 20:09:14    1882083

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Yeah it was one of those strange matches that is impossible to make sense of. McGrath is a good manager and will fix this ahead of the Wexford game. A good few lads will get a shot at redemption tomorrow night with the under 21s. Hopefully they will get a good turnout in support of the team."
I hope so but maybe not as big as expected...its on tv so some countymen may opt for that instead of traveling to the city. Nevertheless hopefully a good game.

juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 12/07/2016 21:03:40    1882121

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Replying To keeper7:  "Ah yes, Clifden, the home of Galway hurling."
Ignorant response.I've been on holidays in Connemara several times and I can tell you they are staunch GAA people there.Clifden isn't even the furthest point away, theres Bpallyconneely , Roundstone, Renvyle, Clonbur, Cleggan etc etc.
The drive to Thurles from the west is mainly on poor roads.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 13/07/2016 12:52:45    1882466

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Replying To juniorjudge:  "They will bounce back. Tipp were impressive"
Tips were very physical but otherwise did nothing special, your 'system' was exposed for what it is i.e. negative and basically flawed.On top of that your team threw in the towel with a full 20 minutes to go which is scandalous but nothing new.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 13/07/2016 12:58:01    1882470

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Replying To Condorman:  "Ignorant response.I've been on holidays in Connemara several times and I can tell you they are staunch GAA people there.Clifden isn't even the furthest point away, theres Bpallyconneely , Roundstone, Renvyle, Clonbur, Cleggan etc etc.
The drive to Thurles from the west is mainly on poor roads."
I'm sure there are plenty of staunch GAA people in Clifden but my point is that very few there would be travelling to many hurling matches in Ballinasloe never mind Thurles. Previously, when people were noting the distance some Antrim teams had to travel to Thurles for doubleheaders they were referencing Ballycastle. Not only was this probably the furthest point in Antrim but it's also a hurling hotbed. An dtuigeann tú?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 13/07/2016 13:00:38    1882473

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Replying To keeper7:  "I'm sure there are plenty of staunch GAA people in Clifden but my point is that very few there would be travelling to many hurling matches in Ballinasloe never mind Thurles. Previously, when people were noting the distance some Antrim teams had to travel to Thurles for doubleheaders they were referencing Ballycastle. Not only was this probably the furthest point in Antrim but it's also a hurling hotbed. An dtuigeann tú?"
Well Keeper I for one am not sure I understand what the hell you are trying to say! I know a man who doesn't miss a Galway game between January and December even though sometimes it means he has to leave home the day before and return the day after the game as he lives on Inis Oirr in the Aran Islands!
The fact is once you turn off the motorway after Loughrea the road to Thurles is bad.Its much easier to go to Limerick.
Don't assume that people don't travel to games just because they live in areas not associated with the game.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 13/07/2016 14:37:25    1882551

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Ah yes, move it to Limerick because one man you know still takes the currach in from the Aran Islands for matches?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 13/07/2016 15:01:25    1882575

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Replying To keeper7:  "Ah yes, move it to Limerick because one man you know still takes the currach in from the Aran Islands for matches?"
Breandán Ó hEithir, 1940s:
My father and I left the island on a Friday, cycled to Birr on Saturday and spent the night there. The match was one of the hardest and best that I have ever seen; it was also the most heart-breaking. At one stage Galway led by seven points, but Kilkenny crept back and Jim Langton equalised. Then Galway gave away a free and Langton hit the winning point.
In those years the roads were always full of groups of men cycling to and from matches on a Sunday and it was in one of these groups, somewhere between Portumna and Loughrea as night fell on our sad journey west, that I first heard the story of the curse. In the circumstances it was easy to believe. We swore we would never again follow the Galway hurlers.
WASHED OUT
The following year we cycled again to Birr on the Saturday before the semi-final against Cork. We woke on Sunday to find the rain coming down in heavy, grey sheets. There wasn't a breath of wind, and it was sultry.
This day is still remembered in Birr because of the ton or so of sandwiches that went stale for lack of custom and had to be thrown away. Towards the end of the game I was glad of the torrent, because it concealed the tears of rage and disappointment that flowed as Galway took a hammering. They could only score three points and were beaten by 13.
And as we cycled back to Galway, with backsides scalded by wet saddles, we talked about the curse and vowed . . . never again.
And again in Birr, the following year, we again went down by a point to Kilkenny, who then went on to beat Cork by a point in the final....
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/blessed-days-real-heroes-and-the-cycle-home-1.668895

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 13/07/2016 15:10:45    1882581

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Replying To keeper7:  "Ah yes, move it to Limerick because one man you know still takes the currach in from the Aran Islands for matches?"
One of the best books, in English, on the GAA, was written by Breandán Ó hÉithir, from Aran. It's called 'Over the Bar'. The best book by far on hurling and the history of hurling is 'Scéal na hIomána' by Liam Ó Caithnia, a Cork man.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1823 - 13/07/2016 15:21:14    1882590

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