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dunno what your issue with CockneyCats post is Greengrass. He's right by the way. This thread is nonsense..

skillet (Limerick) - Posts: 1066 - 10/07/2016 20:53:15    1880409

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "I'd rather watch a bad hurling match over every football match except the semi finals and final."
Typical hurling snob . Yesterday was supposedly one of the biggest hurling occasions of the year . The crowd was very poor and the game was a no contest . The football qualifiers were far superior . The Connacht Final was an infinitely better contest as was the soccer in France. Watch the no contests if you want . I prefer competition.

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 11/07/2016 09:54:37    1880669

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Replying To skillet:  "dunno what your issue with CockneyCats post is Greengrass. He's right by the way. This thread is nonsense.."
Read his post and then consider what has been an entirely predictable and uncompetitive hurling championship to date .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 11/07/2016 09:58:39    1880675

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Typical hurling snob . Yesterday was supposedly one of the biggest hurling occasions of the year . The crowd was very poor and the game was a no contest . The football qualifiers were far superior . The Connacht Final was an infinitely better contest as was the soccer in France. Watch the no contests if you want . I prefer competition."
Hurling snob?Haha come in greengrass that looks like an angry post from you.I thought you liked both games?The Connacht final was the lowest standard ive seen in many a year.It was atrocious football.At least Tipp put on a masterclass for the last 30 minutes.France v Portugal wasn't great either to be fair.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 11/07/2016 10:19:27    1880699

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Replying To cuederocket:  "Hurling snob?Haha come in greengrass that looks like an angry post from you.I thought you liked both games?The Connacht final was the lowest standard ive seen in many a year.It was atrocious football.At least Tipp put on a masterclass for the last 30 minutes.France v Portugal wasn't great either to be fair."
I do like both . The Connacht Final was played in atrocious conditions and was a real contest played with great intensity from start to finish . The Munster Final supposedly involving two of the top four counties in the country was a snooze fest from start to finish . Watch snooze feats and call them "master classes" if you like but as I said earlier I prefer contests . Hurling has a huge crisis of competitiveness .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 11/07/2016 10:52:17    1880731

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do we have to start this nonsense?
neither game in great shape at the moment after the weekend in my view!

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 11/07/2016 10:58:45    1880737

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Replying To Greengrass:  "I do like both . The Connacht Final was played in atrocious conditions and was a real contest played with great intensity from start to finish . The Munster Final supposedly involving two of the top four counties in the country was a snooze fest from start to finish . Watch snooze feats and call them "master classes" if you like but as I said earlier I prefer contests . Hurling has a huge crisis of competitiveness ."
I was in Thurles on Sat and the two games were decent.I was in HQ last Sunday where the Leinster final was good.The league was good with two excellent finals between Clare and Waterford.Im not saying there no problems because there are but it wont stop me loving the game.P.S the Connacht final was dreadful.The weather was poor for Munster hurling final also.It was deplorable football.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 11/07/2016 11:04:09    1880745

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Agree. Pure muck. In hurling these days the narrative is work rate and sweeper systems. Tipperary are the only team worth watching. Last nights games - 4 teams, 2.5 hours. Not once did a player pull on the ball on the ground. One Clare player pulled on the ball in the air. There was hardly a tackle in either game. Last Sunday's Leinster final had a ruck every minute it seemed. Awful tripe."
Incorrect.

A Limerick player pulled on the ball about 15 seconds after the restart. It went straight to a Clare player who cleared it.

That's why ground hurling is not common anymore

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2492 - 11/07/2016 11:15:01    1880756

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Replying To cuederocket:  "I was in Thurles on Sat and the two games were decent.I was in HQ last Sunday where the Leinster final was good.The league was good with two excellent finals between Clare and Waterford.Im not saying there no problems because there are but it wont stop me loving the game.P.S the Connacht final was dreadful.The weather was poor for Munster hurling final also.It was deplorable football."
Those matches were good cue. I was at the Leinster Final and it was a fine contest . However no field sport has such an air of inevitability as hurling . It is an entirely predictable championship and has been for years . Yesterday's Munster Final between two of the top four was a complete bore. Whilst the Leinster Final was a good contest for sixty minutes and Galway were anything but gutless the end result was the same old same old . At least the Connacht Final provided a far better contest than The Munster Hurling Final did yesterday. I was at both Donegal Monaghan matches and they were far ahead of anything the hurling has given us this year . I enjoy both sports but I am tired if the relentless, unsustainable vitriol fired at football and footballers . The foitball championship is a far better competition than the hurling championship .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 11/07/2016 14:50:49    1880986

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Replying To rossy15:  "What ?
Ridiculous comment who was the only team to turn up today ?
Ross were 2 points down today with a few minutes eft playing crap n pulled a draw out of it ... not sure what team ur insinuating didn't show up"
Waterford.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 11/07/2016 15:04:56    1880997

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Replying To Whammo86:  "It was far from a classic day of action for either game today.

A great game of hurling is something else. Unfortunately it's been a while since we've had one of those."
Galway V Tipp All-Ireland semi 2015.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 11/07/2016 15:05:50    1880999

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Those matches were good cue. I was at the Leinster Final and it was a fine contest . However no field sport has such an air of inevitability as hurling . It is an entirely predictable championship and has been for years . Yesterday's Munster Final between two of the top four was a complete bore. Whilst the Leinster Final was a good contest for sixty minutes and Galway were anything but gutless the end result was the same old same old . At least the Connacht Final provided a far better contest than The Munster Hurling Final did yesterday. I was at both Donegal Monaghan matches and they were far ahead of anything the hurling has given us this year . I enjoy both sports but I am tired if the relentless, unsustainable vitriol fired at football and footballers . The foitball championship is a far better competition than the hurling championship ."
Fair play for attending all those games greengrass.You are a passionate GAA man but although you have a fair point regards hurlings predictability i still love the game and always will.I respect Kilkenny hurling but hope that sometime soon their long era of dominance may come to an end and their will be a more even spread of All Ireland winners.And when it does happen i hope to be there to join in the celebrations if Galway,Waterford,Limerick etc win the big prize.What have we got if we dont have hope?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 11/07/2016 15:28:02    1881017

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Replying To cuederocket:  "Fair play for attending all those games greengrass.You are a passionate GAA man but although you have a fair point regards hurlings predictability i still love the game and always will.I respect Kilkenny hurling but hope that sometime soon their long era of dominance may come to an end and their will be a more even spread of All Ireland winners.And when it does happen i hope to be there to join in the celebrations if Galway,Waterford,Limerick etc win the big prize.What have we got if we dont have hope?"
Amen to that cue . Amen to that .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 11/07/2016 16:55:23    1881112

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Typical hurling snob . Yesterday was supposedly one of the biggest hurling occasions of the year . The crowd was very poor and the game was a no contest . The football qualifiers were far superior . The Connacht Final was an infinitely better contest as was the soccer in France. Watch the no contests if you want . I prefer competition."
This thread always descends into us being called hurling snobs.

As they say in Cork 'football is for lads who can't play hurling'.

Hurling is way more skillful than football. How come the tackle in football is still undefined?

I'll give credit where credit is due. From the Sunday game highlights Longford looked really good but the problem is most football teams don't play an attractive brand of football like Longford do.

You'd pay to watch the dubs but most football matches before the semi finals are drab affairs. Galway vs Donegal and Donegal vs Mayo last year are prime examples.

A match between any two of Dublin, Kerry and Mayo is well worth watching but most football games now are dominated by defensive/conservative tactics.

The thread asked which you prefer, I answered honestly and you call me a snob in return.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 11/07/2016 20:10:08    1881297

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "This thread always descends into us being called hurling snobs.

As they say in Cork 'football is for lads who can't play hurling'.

Hurling is way more skillful than football. How come the tackle in football is still undefined?

I'll give credit where credit is due. From the Sunday game highlights Longford looked really good but the problem is most football teams don't play an attractive brand of football like Longford do.

You'd pay to watch the dubs but most football matches before the semi finals are drab affairs. Galway vs Donegal and Donegal vs Mayo last year are prime examples.

A match between any two of Dublin, Kerry and Mayo is well worth watching but most football games now are dominated by defensive/conservative tactics.

The thread asked which you prefer, I answered honestly and you call me a snob in return."
"Football is a game for lads who can't play hurling". Typical b******t. There have been plenty of good football matches this season . As cue has outlined there have been good hurling games too . Enjoy the hurling . You have generalised about football . Good luck to you I'll enjoy both . And that still doesn't get away from the fact that yesterday's Munster Final was a complete non event .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 11/07/2016 20:26:20    1881330

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Replying To Greengrass:  ""Football is a game for lads who can't play hurling". Typical b******t. There have been plenty of good football matches this season . As cue has outlined there have been good hurling games too . Enjoy the hurling . You have generalised about football . Good luck to you I'll enjoy both . And that still doesn't get away from the fact that yesterday's Munster Final was a complete non event ."
I'm taking the piss out of this thread Greengrass.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Hurling fans will obviously prefer hurling to football and vice versa.

Football ball fans get very defensive about this topic. If football fans think football is better than hurling why do we have to go through this pointless argument at least once a year.

It's like some referendum where you think hurling fans will eventually change their mind and say sorry you were right all along.

I think it's safe enough to say a 21 point win was a non-event. But my point is I'd rather watch hurling over football because I am a hurling fan (even a non-event as you call it).

Yesterday's hurling match has generated huge discussion though and probably the most of any game over the weekend. The biggest taking point from the football matches was Aidan O'Shea diving.

The discussion coming from the Munster final has been about tactics working and not working, sweeper systems and how to overcome them, the choice of venue etc. Not bad for a non-event.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 11/07/2016 20:57:06    1881355

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "I'm taking the piss out of this thread Greengrass.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Hurling fans will obviously prefer hurling to football and vice versa.

Football ball fans get very defensive about this topic. If football fans think football is better than hurling why do we have to go through this pointless argument at least once a year.

It's like some referendum where you think hurling fans will eventually change their mind and say sorry you were right all along.

I think it's safe enough to say a 21 point win was a non-event. But my point is I'd rather watch hurling over football because I am a hurling fan (even a non-event as you call it).

Yesterday's hurling match has generated huge discussion though and probably the most of any game over the weekend. The biggest taking point from the football matches was Aidan O'Shea diving.

The discussion coming from the Munster final has been about tactics working and not working, sweeper systems and how to overcome them, the choice of venue etc. Not bad for a non-event."
It was a non event Killarney . People don't go to hurling or football matches to hear talk afterwards about tactics . They go to see a contest . Yesterday was no contest . Hurling is trundling towards it's inevitable denouement. Like cue I sincerely hope we have a shock or two because Lord knows the sport needs it badly . I have no problem with you preferring hurling . There are many like you . There are also many people who prefer football. That is their choice . I enjoy both and attend both . What I can't have and this is not being defensive Killarney, is the ridiculous and unjustified criticisms relentlessly fired at football . It is a simple fact that at the moment the football championship is a far superior competition . Hopefully that will change . In the meantime we are all GAA fans . Let's just enjoy the games .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 11/07/2016 21:18:22    1881375

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Replying To Greengrass:  "It was a non event Killarney . People don't go to hurling or football matches to hear talk afterwards about tactics . They go to see a contest . Yesterday was no contest . Hurling is trundling towards it's inevitable denouement. Like cue I sincerely hope we have a shock or two because Lord knows the sport needs it badly . I have no problem with you preferring hurling . There are many like you . There are also many people who prefer football. That is their choice . I enjoy both and attend both . What I can't have and this is not being defensive Killarney, is the ridiculous and unjustified criticisms relentlessly fired at football . It is a simple fact that at the moment the football championship is a far superior competition . Hopefully that will change . In the meantime we are all GAA fans . Let's just enjoy the games ."
You are inadvertently proving my point.

Football games in general are tighter cos of blanket defenses and lads hand passing the ball five yards. Yesterday's hurling match proved that skill will win out over defensive systems.

Apart from Fermanagh vs Dublin last year's football quarter finals were a joke and that's why it's only worth watching from the semi finals onwards.

The Leinster football championship is already in the gutter by your logic because apart from one flukey win by Meath, Dublin haven't lost a Leinster championship match since 2004.

'You shouldn't criticise snow on your neighbours roof when your own driveway is a mess'

Now away with you to fixing football and leave hurling alone if you have nothing nice to say about hurling.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 11/07/2016 21:38:05    1881395

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "You are inadvertently proving my point.

Football games in general are tighter cos of blanket defenses and lads hand passing the ball five yards. Yesterday's hurling match proved that skill will win out over defensive systems.

Apart from Fermanagh vs Dublin last year's football quarter finals were a joke and that's why it's only worth watching from the semi finals onwards.

The Leinster football championship is already in the gutter by your logic because apart from one flukey win by Meath, Dublin haven't lost a Leinster championship match since 2004.

'You shouldn't criticise snow on your neighbours roof when your own driveway is a mess'

Now away with you to fixing football and leave hurling alone if you have nothing nice to say about hurling."
Relax Killarney.Greengrass is a big fan of hurling and football.It really is a silly thread.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 11/07/2016 21:56:35    1881412

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "You are inadvertently proving my point.

Football games in general are tighter cos of blanket defenses and lads hand passing the ball five yards. Yesterday's hurling match proved that skill will win out over defensive systems.

Apart from Fermanagh vs Dublin last year's football quarter finals were a joke and that's why it's only worth watching from the semi finals onwards.

The Leinster football championship is already in the gutter by your logic because apart from one flukey win by Meath, Dublin haven't lost a Leinster championship match since 2004.

'You shouldn't criticise snow on your neighbours roof when your own driveway is a mess'

Now away with you to fixing football and leave hurling alone if you have nothing nice to say about hurling."
Jesus but you are touchy. Who is really the defensive one around here ? My last post was conciliatory as I said we are all GAA fans and we should enjoy our games . Out you come all guns blazing . Yesterday in Munster proved nothing about skill . It proved that there is a huge deficit in competitiveness in hurling . Hurling is trundling towards it's inevitable denouement. Kilkenny v Tipp in the final again . Hopefully there will be a shock . Tipp beating Kilkenny at this stage would nearly be a shock . I'll still go to the hurling matches and hopefully I'll enjoy them . You are right . The Leinster football championship is a basket case in terms of competitiveness. So too is the Leinster hurling championship . Kilkenny have won 15 of the last 18 championships . We're it not for Galway that would be 16 championships out of 18. Your lack of knowledge about football is letting you down . The Monaghan Tyrone quarter final was a real contest last year . That ' s two competitive quarter finals . The hurling quarter finals didn't set the world on fire either . Look at 2014 . Limerick 4-26 Wexford 1-11 Tipp 2-23 Dublin 0-16. Look at 2015 . Waterford 1-21 Dublin 0-18 Galway 2-28 Cork 0-22. Hardly competitive matches now were they ? And those matches were supposedly between four of the top six teams in the country . Football is way more competitive because there is a far greater spread of competitive teams . Longford took Monaghan out at the weekend . That's a Division Three team taking out last year's Ulster champions . That wouldn't happen in hurling . You need to lighten up in a major way Killarney and stop being so precious when a few home truths about hurling are pointed out to you . Like I said previously , enjoy your hurling . In the meantime I'll attend and enjoy both hurling and football .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 11/07/2016 22:17:04    1881429

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