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I'm a big fan of this Waterford team also.Championship is warming up nicely.Looking forward to seeing these four teams in action on Saturday.
cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 07/07/2016 11:31:30 1877780 Link 0 |
Don't write them off either though. It is not just a matter of Limerick turning up. I would say there is very little between Limerick, Clare and Waterford (and possibly Galway). I think KK are out ahead with Tipp just behind them (just opinion which may change this weekend). I think Cork and Wexford are the weakest links left (on current form). One will be gone this weekend and the other has the opportunity to get a run going.
bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 07/07/2016 11:32:31 1877781 Link 0 |
There's no hysteria here regards Clare.Just i tipped them before the start of championship so i wont be jumping ship until their gone.Of course they are not the full package?They have their weaknesses like all teams but sometimes you have to call it and get off the fence.Of course Limerick could beat Clare on Saturday but i dont think they will.Lets wait and see how the year progresses. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 07/07/2016 11:38:52 1877790 Link 0 |
Id have a disagree slightly with your tier structure. Id be of the opinion: Kilkenny + Tipp Waterford + Clare Galway + Limerick Cork + Dublin Wexford Offaly, Kerry, Laois, Westmeath, Meath, Antrim etc And certainly not underrating CE either....just think WD would put up more of a challenge in September to KK or TY. this weekend cant come quick enough!!! juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 07/07/2016 12:54:14 1877859 Link 0 |
I'm surprised there's this much debate. Seems clear to me that Cork and Clare will win here. Limerick have been a disaster all year. Wexford equally so. Clare have shown patches of good form. Cork have been poor but have too much quality up front to lose to wexford who are missing so many. hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 07/07/2016 13:15:26 1877874 Link 0 |
Do I? The_Bull (Cork) - Posts: 248 - 07/07/2016 13:58:09 1877912 Link 0 |
Blackspot you seem to be on a mission to dismiss other counties achievements,if that's the business we're in you could argue all limerick have done in the last 20 years is win a Munster where both games were at home and got an all Ireland in 07 beating a Waterford team out in croke park for the 3rd Sunday running
bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 07/07/2016 14:39:18 1877947 Link 0 |
I have no contempt for the team at all. I think that if we had a Jim McGuiness, James Horan etc in charge we would be All-Ireland champions within a few years. I know Peadar Healy. he lives in Glengarriff. Prior to getting the senior county manager job, he was coach of that team. That was it. We all know that he wasn't even first choice for the job (that is not being disrespectful to him). He got the job because he is a face that fits those that are really in charge (again not being disrespectful to him). This squad has fantastic footballers. Brian Hurley, Colm O'Neill, Fintan Goold, Michael Shields, Tomas Clancy are as talented players as exist anywhere. Not only that there are loads of guys in the county that could get on the team - Mark Sugrue, Dan McEoin, Shane Beston, Rory O Hagan etc are all very talented. In short, few counties have as much as talent as we have and look where we are? relegated to Division 2 and losing to Tipp's B team...Perhaps you are happy with that. personally I'd rather not enter a team than waste people's time. That is what is happening. We have even forsaken home advantage this weekend so that we can get some favours for our white elephant down the road.
bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 07/07/2016 15:26:12 1877979 Link 0 |
Exactly. We have done nothing bar one year of the last 10. Same as Clare. Both had a decent 2013. And in fact their record is worse than ours outside of that year. But we don't see ourselves as contenders. They do. That's the point. There is no valid reason what so ever for anyone to consider them contenders.
mike03 (Limerick) - Posts: 2000 - 07/07/2016 15:46:45 1877993 Link 1 |
You have Waterford and Clare above Galway... based upon what? Galway are currently the no2 team in the country. Have you based it upon Clare having only beaten Offaly and Laois in 2 and half seasons? Waterford have potential and everyone in Galway would be delighted to see you win an AI ( I was at the 2013 final and glad you beat Galway in the mInors as you really needed it) but to have you above us... not even level! I find surprising. The first half of the AI last year and this years first half Leinster Final show Galway have what it takes to play at a better level then KK...sustaining it into a full match can be done. Its easier to prolong something that is there then to wish it out of thin air because its never happened! mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 46 - 07/07/2016 16:18:12 1878017 Link 0 |
I'd imagine based on all current form! Galway have been shocking all year
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/07/2016 16:21:12 1878019 Link 0 |
So the league you mean? That was always going to be the case after the managerial upheaval during the autumn. And awful? They beat cork at home, draw with Tipp at home, drew with Waterford away and lost to Dublin in Parnell and KK in Nowlan... which pretty much all teams do! Followed up with 2 leinster SHC wins, an accomplished first half against KK before falling badly away against the very best team around. I don't think that equates to anything like 'shocking form' and sounds more like hyperbole. mr305 (Galway) - Posts: 46 - 07/07/2016 17:31:30 1878059 Link 1 |
Kilkenny are so hard to beat as we all know so it's it's fair to have them at the top.Although i tipped Clare this year,there is nothing between them,Waterford,Galway,Limerick and Tipp at the moment.On any given day any of these teams can beat each other.Cork are not far off either and could take a scalp before the year is out.Wexford are a little off the pace i feel. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 07/07/2016 17:39:18 1878065 Link 0 |
Limerick can't even be mentioned in the same breath as waterford, tipp or even galway. Cork are ahead of them but are also non-runners compared to these three. I would be monumentally shocked if Limerick beat Clare. It hasn't clicked in the past year and a half, I don't expect it to come right this weekend. I'd say a loss by 7 points. hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 07/07/2016 18:56:38 1878095 Link 1 |
We all see things differently 'spuds.How have Limerick regressed so much since they nearly beat Kilkenny on that rain sodden day?The Limerick posters will have more answers than we will.In saying that i think they have the guts of a good team and if they can put in a big performance on Saturday they could very well rattle Clare.Traditionally Limerick have a good record v the banner and surely there is one big game in Limerick?Personally i would rate this Limerick team ahead of Cork ; even accounting for their poor form.
cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 07/07/2016 19:27:49 1878107 Link 0 |
This is a joke right???? Come on fellas dont be winding me up ye know im easy to wind up ye divils :)
juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 07/07/2016 21:19:22 1878166 Link 0 |
Galway could not retain their place in Division 1. Same level as Limerick. Enough said.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4342 - 08/07/2016 08:22:51 1878293 Link 1 |
So you'd fancy Galway to beat Tipp or Waterford if they played them? Won't get within 5-6 points of either of them. Shocking may be a bit over the top alright. Same old Galway maybe better describes them. They were well beaten in both pressure games this year.
tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 08/07/2016 10:26:51 1878346 Link 0 |
Exactly my point Mike thank you!
blackspot91 (Limerick) - Posts: 1055 - 08/07/2016 10:32:09 1878349 Link 0 |
Galway could not beat the worst Cork I have ever seen to retain Division 1 status. Are they really that superior to Limerick. Three of their best forwards V Cork and Tipp last year were on the field in that years U21 Semi Final, they 3 points between them. Hardly a massive performance.
Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4342 - 08/07/2016 19:16:58 1878640 Link 0 |