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Loughnane tears into Galway

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Kilkenny were favourites for this game, so don't see why Galway not winning is seen as failure and cowardice.
Mayo footballers losing to Galway was worse.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 04/07/2016 22:47:05    1876527

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Loughnane is quick to tear in to other people. After the 1998 semi final early final whistle fiasco, he almost immediately said Clare were willing to take part in a replay. This was an absurd decision and in probability cost his county another All Ireland. I could never see Babs Keating, Brian Cody or Frank Murphy agreeing to some thing like this, if their respective teams were involved. It was as if every referees mistake could lead to a replay. If Ger had stood his ground the Central Council would have found it very difficult to force Clare to replay that game"
Bit over the top but Galway are overrated Kilkenny have one thing all the others lack, killer instinct, when they are in front they don't let up. I've never seen the fuss over Galway they have been in Leinster nearly 10 years and haven't really added anything new or dramatic to it, Kilkenny still dominant.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 138 - 05/07/2016 03:53:20    1876570

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Very Lazy piece alright -Calling them gutless is shocking and says more about Loughnane . Galway were very close to winning that game - If the brilliance of Cillian Buckley last ditch clearance off the line hadnt happened then the momentum of a goal may have pushed them through to victory - thems the margins. I do however see his point on the manager. I noticed the difference too between Cody hitting every ball (and man) , and O'D all ear-pieced up and almost deliberately low-key - but he is successful with his club so must be doing something right.

Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 05/07/2016 09:32:36    1876596

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Replying To Oldtourman:  "Loughnane is quick to tear in to other people. After the 1998 semi final early final whistle fiasco, he almost immediately said Clare were willing to take part in a replay. This was an absurd decision and in probability cost his county another All Ireland. I could never see Babs Keating, Brian Cody or Frank Murphy agreeing to some thing like this, if their respective teams were involved. It was as if every referees mistake could lead to a replay. If Ger had stood his ground the Central Council would have found it very difficult to force Clare to replay that game"
i read a link as i wouldnt buy that rag..loughnanne letting himself down big time.he seems to be still bitter after his failed tenure as galway manager. .the galway manager seems in the jim gavin(does he remind anyone of father trendy anyone?) mode.calm quiet spoken and logical. his interview after the game was a logic and calm assesment of where it went wrong and the killian buckley save etc and how vital it was. having said all that they will have to take a look at the mindset of hitting over a few "easy" points with 5 min to go to keep the scoreboard respectable?im sure cody would have subbed the scorer instantly if a kk player done that. .i really think galway are not far away at all and still could have a big say yet in the destination of the all ireland with a few slight adjustments..

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 05/07/2016 09:40:51    1876597

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I see Ollie Canning has responded to the Clare magalomaniac. I was in Thurles in 2008, the day Joe scored 2-12. Cork were down a man before half time. What tactics did Loughnane employ to win the game in the second half? The Galway keeper hit each puck out down on top of the best half-back line in Ireland at the time. Ollie Canning was the loose Galway man, one of the most skillful hurlers in the country. Not once was the Galway keeper instructed to play the ball to Ollie Canning! Not once has the Clare magalomaniac assessed his own performance in public as a manager of Galway. He did more harm than any other manager in Galway. I will not read his rantings in future. Let him wallow in his bile.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1805 - 05/07/2016 13:09:34    1876761

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ger who?oh yeah,the lad who won an all-ireland when he got a team fitter than anybody else.
i hate him on the sunday game,i dont like the man and i certainly wouldnt be reading his articles nor paying any creedance to what muck he has to write!

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 05/07/2016 13:57:00    1876805

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with the game at killkenny 1.17 to galways 0.17
cillian buckley saved a certain goal
with one of the best goal line clearences ive seen
that goal would have leveled the game
now killkenny might still have won
but unbelievable skill and courage from buckley
hes fast becoming another killkenny legend

rhudson (Galway) - Posts: 1478 - 05/07/2016 14:18:09    1876820

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Replying To Jedobi:  "Bit over the top but Galway are overrated Kilkenny have one thing all the others lack, killer instinct, when they are in front they don't let up. I've never seen the fuss over Galway they have been in Leinster nearly 10 years and haven't really added anything new or dramatic to it, Kilkenny still dominant."
Without Galway the Leinster championship would be a washout . Dublin have out it up to Kilkenny in the recent past but seem to be struggling at the moment . Wexford and Offaly are now unfortunately miles off the pace and are incapable of offering even token resistance to Kilkenny .

Greengrass (Louth) - Posts: 6031 - 05/07/2016 15:42:26    1876861

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In assessing Ger Lock's credibility on this question, I ask myself two questions:

1. Did he achieve anything during his tenure in Galway?

2. Has he ever beaten a Kilkenny team under Brian Cody?

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 05/07/2016 16:20:56    1876878

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The Clare that Loughnane played on in the 70's must have gone down as fairly gutless too on that basis. They lost 3 or 4 Munster finals.

Heraf (Laois) - Posts: 316 - 05/07/2016 16:22:23    1876881

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he makes headlines for the sake of it.ive no respect for him..he grassed on the clare lads that had burst a gut for him in his book also.he has zero class.

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 05/07/2016 16:42:28    1876892

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Replying To Jedobi:  "Bit over the top but Galway are overrated Kilkenny have one thing all the others lack, killer instinct, when they are in front they don't let up. I've never seen the fuss over Galway they have been in Leinster nearly 10 years and haven't really added anything new or dramatic to it, Kilkenny still dominant."
Those in glasshouses etc. They have been in Leinster 7 years and the final 5 times, the number of times we have been in the final in that period......

zinny (Wexford) - Posts: 1804 - 05/07/2016 16:57:44    1876900

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Replying To kavvie:  "he makes headlines for the sake of it.ive no respect for him..he grassed on the clare lads that had burst a gut for him in his book also.he has zero class."
What did he say about his former players in the book?

He is a complete sh@t stirrer. I found most of his comments funny but there was no need to slag of Donohue.

From the outside looking in he seems to be playing mind games with Tipp, Kilkenny and Galway. He also appears to be a protective figure to the current clare players. I know at under 21 winning medals presentations he is full of praise for the current crop and encouraging to win more at senior level unlike the the Tipp under 21s of 2010.

Ironically though, I think this stuff will backfire on him if that's his agenda.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 05/07/2016 17:16:22    1876917

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Replying To zinny:  "Those in glasshouses etc. They have been in Leinster 7 years and the final 5 times, the number of times we have been in the final in that period......"
And won it once.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 138 - 05/07/2016 22:03:02    1877040

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Replying To Greengrass:  "Without Galway the Leinster championship would be a washout . Dublin have out it up to Kilkenny in the recent past but seem to be struggling at the moment . Wexford and Offaly are now unfortunately miles off the pace and are incapable of offering even token resistance to Kilkenny ."
Apart from beating Kilkenny by 17 points at U21 last year. I don't see many other teams offering Kilkenny much opposition, Tipperary and Waterford only 2 who may stop them and Clare after that.

Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 138 - 05/07/2016 22:05:38    1877044

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Replying To waynoI:  "What do we think of his comments on "gutless" Galway ?

Fairly laid into them.

Does he have a point of is he well wide of the mark ?"
What do you expect from a pig but a grunt!!

galwaydub (Galway) - Posts: 13 - 05/07/2016 22:07:59    1877046

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I read his article and two things i disagree with are his calling Galway "gutless" and his insulting description of the Galway manager's mannerisms on the sideline.What he said about Canning is interesting.He asked where did he get his repution?And lets be honest,his reputation is massive.I have always respected Loughnane as a pundit.He has a keen eye and a razor sharp mind but ruins this with an ascerbic,bitter tongue at times.I was interested to hear that question about Joe.Afterall Loughnane saw Joe up close and personnel for two years when he was a manager there.I have read Loughnane a few time since he departed be not too complimentary about him.I dont know if there is any issues between the two but i genuinely feel that Loughnane thinks Joe is over-rated.

I must admit i have been disappointed with Joe in quite a few games.His natural talent and skill levels are up there with anyone to have ever played the game but what lets him down and seperates him from many of the games greats is his lack of consistency.And that has nothing do with playing for Galway.We're not talking about Carlow or

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 06/07/2016 13:07:39    1877274

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*or Laois here.Galway are one of hurlings elite and will always have 15 good hurlers on the field.Also,his lack of a senior All Ireland doesn't come into it for me.My issue is i don't remember any of the top players like Shefflin,Walsh,Delaney,Carey,Kelly,having as many quiet and ineffectual games as Joe.It seems like after every great game Joe has he will have two quiet games.One other area i feel Joe lacks in comparison to many of the greats is work rate.I have never seen Joe run,harass,block,hook and tackle as much as others like Shefflin,K McGrath,C Carey etc.This is not a slight on Joe as i have seen him do things on a field that no other player has done and have included him at num 14 in my hurling best 15 but in my opinion,where Joe lacks is in consistency and work rate which are two staple diets of the best players.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 06/07/2016 13:15:54    1877280

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Replying To cuederocket:  "I read his article and two things i disagree with are his calling Galway "gutless" and his insulting description of the Galway manager's mannerisms on the sideline.What he said about Canning is interesting.He asked where did he get his repution?And lets be honest,his reputation is massive.I have always respected Loughnane as a pundit.He has a keen eye and a razor sharp mind but ruins this with an ascerbic,bitter tongue at times.I was interested to hear that question about Joe.Afterall Loughnane saw Joe up close and personnel for two years when he was a manager there.I have read Loughnane a few time since he departed be not too complimentary about him.I dont know if there is any issues between the two but i genuinely feel that Loughnane thinks Joe is over-rated.

I must admit i have been disappointed with Joe in quite a few games.His natural talent and skill levels are up there with anyone to have ever played the game but what lets him down and seperates him from many of the games greats is his lack of consistency.And that has nothing do with playing for Galway.We're not talking about Carlow or"
The same Ger Loughnane who declared that Joe Canning would never make it as a senior hurler for concentrating on the U-21s instead of the senior team when he was managing the latter. All these years later and Ger is still bitter.

Ailteoir (Galway) - Posts: 859 - 06/07/2016 13:50:22    1877302

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Replying To cuederocket:  "I read his article and two things i disagree with are his calling Galway "gutless" and his insulting description of the Galway manager's mannerisms on the sideline.What he said about Canning is interesting.He asked where did he get his repution?And lets be honest,his reputation is massive.I have always respected Loughnane as a pundit.He has a keen eye and a razor sharp mind but ruins this with an ascerbic,bitter tongue at times.I was interested to hear that question about Joe.Afterall Loughnane saw Joe up close and personnel for two years when he was a manager there.I have read Loughnane a few time since he departed be not too complimentary about him.I dont know if there is any issues between the two but i genuinely feel that Loughnane thinks Joe is over-rated.

I must admit i have been disappointed with Joe in quite a few games.His natural talent and skill levels are up there with anyone to have ever played the game but what lets him down and seperates him from many of the games greats is his lack of consistency.And that has nothing do with playing for Galway.We're not talking about Carlow or"
How about we just take 2015 as an example of Joe and his reputation. JC ended 2015 with a total of 5-55. Top scorer overall in the championship. Second top scorer from play. His 1-15 scored against Laois was the joint highest individual tally in one game along with Seamus Callanan. And yet no All Star. JC is set to such a high standard I don't know if anyone could live up to it. And the strangest part of it all is JC was poor in 2015. And that's even by his own admission. That's how good he is. And no Loughnane didn't see him up close and personal for two years because JC wouldn't play for him straight out of minor.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 591 - 06/07/2016 14:14:32    1877321

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