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Replying To DLlegends:  "We got you on an off day! Get over yourself lad.

Whether you like it or not Donegal are classed as a big team.

Now don't get me wrong Tyrone have a good chance on Sunday. This young team that Mickey has moulded are supposed All-Ireland conterders and are laying waste to all around them.

All and good when teams sit back and admire ye. However we both know what happens when it's a dog fight. You normally fill your togs.

As I said before this is an over hyped Tyrone team, but are still dangerous.

All the pressure is on Tyrone. This is a must win for Mickey and Tyrone and you all know it."
Tyrone under Mickey Harte have never feared any team,including Donegal. You are well capable of a victory on Sunday but so are we. I say that with true conviction this year rather than with hope like in the past few years. It should be a great tussle. If we have to go the scenic route then that's ok too as its been kind to us in the past. Would mean a lot to claim an Ulster title though so hoping for a win and our lads are well capable of getting it this time. Mon Tir Eoghain!!

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 14/07/2016 20:11:24    1883440

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Tyrone have to win this game on Sunday.

5 championship defeats on the trot to your next door neighbours is almost unthinkable. Defeat is surely not an option.

They are the new media favourites to take Dublin out in Croke Park later this summer.

They only lost to Donegal in Ballybofey the last two times in Ulster because the pitch was not suitable for their slick, polished style of play. No other reason of course.

Donegal are an old team with loads of Ulster medals and most of the boys have All Ireland medals. So they've nothing to lose really, just give it an aul go!

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 14/07/2016 20:44:29    1883455

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Thinking this over as the week goes on, listening to various media etc. I have started to get the feeling that Tyrone are trying to big themselves up,along with the media hype, part of me thinks the Dublin media wold like nothing more than to see Donegal get beat, they don't want the Dubs to meet Donegal again, they know have the beating of them,2014 must haunt them to this day.
it would be a different story meeting them in the qualifiers,but going in as Ulster champions, having beaten the best young up and coming team in the Ulster final, our lads would be full of confidence and experience.
Expecting a great game, hope the ref keeps an eye on the treatment Michael Murphy gets this time, I expect Donegal to win by 3 or 4 points, and be killing the game off for the last 5-10 mins when Tyrone have tried their best and failed.
You heard it here first!!

TirChonaillabu2 (Donegal) - Posts: 344 - 14/07/2016 20:55:11    1883463

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Donegal fans must know something everyone else doesn't, don't think I have ever seen so many over confident fans.

If Donegal don't win I can't wait to hear the excuses.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 14/07/2016 21:15:35    1883481

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Replying To kevin03:  "Donegal fans must know something everyone else doesn't, don't think I have ever seen so many over confident fans.

If Donegal don't win I can't wait to hear the excuses."
God no Kevin, the boys are only getting a bit excited! I have little faith, the media and the bookies have it nailed on.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 14/07/2016 21:28:18    1883492

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Replying To kevin03:  "Donegal fans must know something everyone else doesn't, don't think I have ever seen so many over confident fans.

If Donegal don't win I can't wait to hear the excuses."
Look Kevin03 there will be no excuses from me , I honestly think we have improved from last year, let's not forget the likes of M o Reilly / O McNellis are probably just beginning to develope as inter county players as indeed are the two MC Hugh's. All around 22/23 years of age.
I know quite well we can be defeated and a small part of me thinks we might , Tyrone are every bit as entitled as Donegal to won the game but I think we can win Not 100 per cent but I'd say around 75/80 percent chance.
Now in saying all that Donegal must play , no place on Sunday for passengers and above all we can't do what we done last year -- kick the game away. Of course the same must apply to Tyrone as to defeat Donegal they will have to bring their A1 game to Clones.
This is the biggest game of the year so far and I hope it lives up to its billing. I think it will I always said the 2012 semi final in Clones with Tyrone was the hardest game we had that year. Think it was 12 to 10 points That was tight.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 14/07/2016 21:35:07    1883495

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Replying To DLlegends:  "We got you on an off day! Get over yourself lad.

Whether you like it or not Donegal are classed as a big team.

Now don't get me wrong Tyrone have a good chance on Sunday. This young team that Mickey has moulded are supposed All-Ireland conterders and are laying waste to all around them.

All and good when teams sit back and admire ye. However we both know what happens when it's a dog fight. You normally fill your togs.

As I said before this is an over hyped Tyrone team, but are still dangerous.

All the pressure is on Tyrone. This is a must win for Mickey and Tyrone and you all know it."
Most you've beaten a Tyrone team by in this period of domination is 3 points as far as I can remember. 1 away game you've had to play...at Clones, a neutral venue in your all Ireland year and you beat us by a measly 2 points

Don't take it badly when it's laid out in front of you.

We'll see on Sunday, your county is very confident about beating us and you're all so sure we're over hyped.

Even my suggestion above that players such as Mattie Donnelly will have the team ready to play has been disliked

COME AND SEE! COME AND SEE!

Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 14/07/2016 21:38:22    1883501

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "The bottom line is that if a young, fit, ambitious Tyrone side DON'T dispatch an ageing, slow, tired Donegal team by at least 5 points they are going nowhere. Tyrone fans know this but won't say it."
Micky Hart today on about age and Donegal
The one who have been around the block and age not on their side and them not performing well-- that would be a problem for Donegal

But they are performing well so that's a problem for their opponents

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 14/07/2016 21:44:37    1883503

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Replying To TirChonaillabu2:  "Thinking this over as the week goes on, listening to various media etc. I have started to get the feeling that Tyrone are trying to big themselves up,along with the media hype, part of me thinks the Dublin media wold like nothing more than to see Donegal get beat, they don't want the Dubs to meet Donegal again, they know have the beating of them,2014 must haunt them to this day.
it would be a different story meeting them in the qualifiers,but going in as Ulster champions, having beaten the best young up and coming team in the Ulster final, our lads would be full of confidence and experience.
Expecting a great game, hope the ref keeps an eye on the treatment Michael Murphy gets this time, I expect Donegal to win by 3 or 4 points, and be killing the game off for the last 5-10 mins when Tyrone have tried their best and failed.
You heard it here first!!"
Lads, you do realise that you didn't actually win the 2014 AI, don't you? I mean, fair enough, you beat Dublin (the 1 occasion out of 7 that you managed to do so since 2011), but then you flopped big time in the final. Throw in the upsets by Monaghan (x2) and maulings by Mayo (x2) in 2013 & 2015, and that glorious moment in August 2014 really does begin to look a bit lonely.

Donegal have it all to prove. Unloved champions all the way back in 2012 (jeeze, doesn't time fly), they've added only a solitary Ulster title since then - hardly the stuff of legends. It's now or never again for them. Win, and they'll get back to Croke Park for one last shot at the big prize (though they'll have to hope they avoid Mayo in a Qtr Final this time). Lose, and the window will surely then be tightly shut for good. Serious pressure, and no wonder their fans on here are rattled.

(Oh, and as for your other point, I too hope that the referee keeps a close eye on Michael Murphy, as he's probably got the worst disciplinary record in the country.)

Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 14/07/2016 21:52:30    1883509

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Donegal... Unloved...

Coming from a Tyrone man...????!!!!!

You're on on your own

Lololololololol

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 14/07/2016 22:06:27    1883522

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Replying To Thomas Clarke:  "Lads, you do realise that you didn't actually win the 2014 AI, don't you? I mean, fair enough, you beat Dublin (the 1 occasion out of 7 that you managed to do so since 2011), but then you flopped big time in the final. Throw in the upsets by Monaghan (x2) and maulings by Mayo (x2) in 2013 & 2015, and that glorious moment in August 2014 really does begin to look a bit lonely.

Donegal have it all to prove. Unloved champions all the way back in 2012 (jeeze, doesn't time fly), they've added only a solitary Ulster title since then - hardly the stuff of legends. It's now or never again for them. Win, and they'll get back to Croke Park for one last shot at the big prize (though they'll have to hope they avoid Mayo in a Qtr Final this time). Lose, and the window will surely then be tightly shut for good. Serious pressure, and no wonder their fans on here are rattled.

(Oh, and as for your other point, I too hope that the referee keeps a close eye on Michael Murphy, as he's probably got the worst disciplinary record in the country.)"
Your trolling is always good for a wee chuckle! Keep them coming Thomas!!

HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 520 - 14/07/2016 22:08:08    1883524

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Mickie has bigger fish to fry than Donegal. Whether Tyrone win, loose or draw they'll still end up in the last 4. Just note it. That's what us neutrals think.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 15/07/2016 00:04:29    1883585

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Just noticing Tyrone still haven't named Joe Mc Mahon as a sub. Wonder is he coming back at all?

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 15/07/2016 00:07:24    1883587

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ALL the horseshi*e stops on Sunday. Donegal will prove they are either still part of the elite or a busted flush. Tyrone will demonstrate that either the so called comeback is a big myth or that they have beat the Donegal monkey off their backs. Don't take my statement that Tyrone will have to beat Donegal by 5+ as disrespect for Donegal. If they win on Sunday it wouldn't surprise me one bit. Donegal have demonstrated over the past 4/5 years that when it matters they are the real deal.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 15/07/2016 01:00:37    1883606

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Replying To Thomas Clarke:  "Lads, you do realise that you didn't actually win the 2014 AI, don't you? I mean, fair enough, you beat Dublin (the 1 occasion out of 7 that you managed to do so since 2011), but then you flopped big time in the final. Throw in the upsets by Monaghan (x2) and maulings by Mayo (x2) in 2013 & 2015, and that glorious moment in August 2014 really does begin to look a bit lonely.

Donegal have it all to prove. Unloved champions all the way back in 2012 (jeeze, doesn't time fly), they've added only a solitary Ulster title since then - hardly the stuff of legends. It's now or never again for them. Win, and they'll get back to Croke Park for one last shot at the big prize (though they'll have to hope they avoid Mayo in a Qtr Final this time). Lose, and the window will surely then be tightly shut for good. Serious pressure, and no wonder their fans on here are rattled.

(Oh, and as for your other point, I too hope that the referee keeps a close eye on Michael Murphy, as he's probably got the worst disciplinary record in the country.)"
Thomas, think you'll need a wee straightener around lunchtime on Sunday. A wee brandy and port perhaps. The nerves have got to ya, delirious posts from a normally astute and articulate poster! :P

I'll get the first round in sure!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9155 - 15/07/2016 10:14:20    1883675

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Replying To border Gael:  "Just noticing Tyrone still haven't named Joe Mc Mahon as a sub. Wonder is he coming back at all?"
In some ways, I'd be more concerned about the absence of Richie Donnelly and Conor Meyler from the bench.

Richie started against Derry but missed the Cavan games with injuries, and am guessing he's still hurt. He has had a very good season so far, and adds size and long range point scoring to our half-forward line, 2 attributes that would be important on Sunday.

Meyler made an instant impact when brought into the squad after the U21 campaign last summer, and was brilliant in the AI semi-final. He then seemed to have stepped it up further in the McKenna Cup final, one of the best individual performances I've seen from any Tyrone player in a long time. He's strong and extremely fast, but he too seems to struggle with injuries, and has missed large chunks of the year. If fully fit, both Meyler and Donnelly would very probably be starting in our half forward line.

Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 15/07/2016 10:23:07    1883681

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Replying To DLlegends:  "We got you on an off day! Get over yourself lad.

Whether you like it or not Donegal are classed as a big team.

Now don't get me wrong Tyrone have a good chance on Sunday. This young team that Mickey has moulded are supposed All-Ireland conterders and are laying waste to all around them.

All and good when teams sit back and admire ye. However we both know what happens when it's a dog fight. You normally fill your togs.

As I said before this is an over hyped Tyrone team, but are still dangerous.

All the pressure is on Tyrone. This is a must win for Mickey and Tyrone and you all know it."
Absolute garbage, think a loss here will affect Donegal a lot more than tyrone. Sure it would be hard to take again, especially listening to fans like yourself who probably came out of the woodwork in 2012. But this is a young team still growing and missing a marquee forward. they will learn and go again.

Donegal on the other hand I would imagine would have to do a lot of soul searching and the trust in Gallagher would be gone.

redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 15/07/2016 11:11:54    1883723

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Replying To redhanddefender:  "Absolute garbage, think a loss here will affect Donegal a lot more than tyrone. Sure it would be hard to take again, especially listening to fans like yourself who probably came out of the woodwork in 2012. But this is a young team still growing and missing a marquee forward. they will learn and go again.

Donegal on the other hand I would imagine would have to do a lot of soul searching and the trust in Gallagher would be gone."
I've been listening to this rubbish from Tyrone supporters for 4 years now. Team in transition blah blah blah.

Soul searching!! Sure we're transition ourselves.
Trying to bleed young boys like Eoin Mc Hugh, Ciaran Gillespie, Stephen Mc Brearty, Mark Anthony, Ciaran Thompson, Jigger and Caolan Mc Gonagle.

Trust in Gallagher. What about Mickey. If he is outfoxed on the line again, by a man who supposedly photocopied JMG master plan. What will that say!

The oll nerves are clearly taking over rehand. This is a must win for Tyrone.

DLlegends (Donegal) - Posts: 503 - 15/07/2016 12:54:22    1883789

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the funny thing is its most like going to be a very tight match and the winners will be hailed as worldbeaters and the losers will be finished.
The way the draw is this year that could well be the case but next year will be more or the same.

Im feeling fairly confident. I do think Tyrone are being over hyped. I really don't think Harte or Donnelly will be let play this weekend and I question whether the rest will do the job. Thats the difference I see against Monaghan when McNiallas and the 2 McHughs were being marked out of it Frank and O Reilly stepped up. Rory Kavanagh and McElhenny stepped up. Can Tyrone keep all this players quiet?

I think it will be a game where a goal or sending off will have a massive impact. I hope the ref has a good game as it will be feisty.

dstuction (Donegal) - Posts: 1209 - 15/07/2016 13:34:30    1883820

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If Tyrone win there will be some amount of red faced Donegal fans. I haven't seen a Tyrone fan yet say they are sure of a win while almost everyone Donegal fan is certain of it.

kevin03 (Tyrone) - Posts: 276 - 15/07/2016 14:00:01    1883845

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