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All the rumours that you hear about the Galway hurlers are true. Most of the players have utter contempt for each other due to poisonous club rivalries. Why do you think Galway hurlers continually fall short every year with inept performances? The simple answer is that when the pressure comes on, the sense of 'team' goes out the window.

For too long, the tail has been wagging the dog.

Mr. Donoghue the manager needs to drop some of our so called 'star' players if he's going to develop any authority.

Brian Cody bit the bullet and dropped Charlie Carter many moons ago. That was the makings of Cody and Kilkenny.

Corrib.Dabbler (Galway) - Posts: 14 - 04/07/2016 15:14:02    1876137

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Replying To hurlinspuds:  "I didn't say anything about counties' record in croke park. I listed the only counties that seem capable of beating KK. Whatever about Galway's record in croke park, they are incapable of challenging KK for 70 minutes."
When it comes to championship, Galway have inflicted bigger defeats on Cody than any other county.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 04/07/2016 15:49:04    1876161

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Replying To baire:  "When it comes to championship, Galway have inflicted bigger defeats on Cody than any other county."
Nope, Tipp have beaten them in a final in recent years. That is the biggest defeat you can inflict on them.

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 04/07/2016 16:28:33    1876211

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Tipp had a great win alright in 2010 on a day when everything went right for them and little went right for the injury hit Cats.That remains Tipp's only championship win over Cody's team this century.Thats one win in 8 if memory serves.
Cork and Galway have had more success and Galway's 10 point win in the 2012 Leinster Final was the biggest loss.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 04/07/2016 18:53:42    1876368

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Replying To baire:  "It's a good job Donegal have mighty hurlers!"
Just cos someone is from Donegal doesn't mean their opinion on hurling doesn't matter.

I know plenty of lads from Tipp who haven't a clue about hurling and lads from counties outside of Liam McCarthy level who have a great understanding for the game.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 05/07/2016 17:23:03    1876920

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Replying To Corrib.Dabbler:  "All the rumours that you hear about the Galway hurlers are true. Most of the players have utter contempt for each other due to poisonous club rivalries. Why do you think Galway hurlers continually fall short every year with inept performances? The simple answer is that when the pressure comes on, the sense of 'team' goes out the window.

For too long, the tail has been wagging the dog.

Mr. Donoghue the manager needs to drop some of our so called 'star' players if he's going to develop any authority.

Brian Cody bit the bullet and dropped Charlie Carter many moons ago. That was the makings of Cody and Kilkenny."
It's sad and pointless that those rivalries spill onto the senior inter county team. Sounds like clubs need to bury the hatchet and move forward as one for the sake of the county team.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 05/07/2016 17:28:09    1876921

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Just cos someone is from Donegal doesn't mean their opinion on hurling doesn't matter.

I know plenty of lads from Tipp who haven't a clue about hurling and lads from counties outside of Liam McCarthy level who have a great understanding for the game."
It was tongue in cheek in response to the poster's comment re Galway manager. Is there no sense of humour on this forum?

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 05/07/2016 18:36:46    1876960

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Replying To baire:  "It was tongue in cheek in response to the poster's comment re Galway manager. Is there no sense of humour on this forum?"
Fair enough Baire, I withdraw my comments above.

I just love to see posters from counties that are not known for hurling showing an interest in this great game.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 06/07/2016 03:37:00    1877097

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Replying To baire:  "When it comes to championship, Galway have inflicted bigger defeats on Cody than any other county."
Baire We are talking about two differerent things. I'm talking about potential, you're talking about historical.

Even in terms of history, in the Cody era I would say cork have surely beaten KK more times than galway have.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 06/07/2016 08:49:04    1877113

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Replying To hurlinspuds:  "Baire We are talking about two differerent things. I'm talking about potential, you're talking about historical.

Even in terms of history, in the Cody era I would say cork have surely beaten KK more times than galway have."
We are talking about two different things. Cork have a better record in All Ireland finals against KK.
I was referring to the margin of defeat that Galway inflicted on KK in AISFs and a Leinster Final. Of course a one point win in an AIF is far better than any trouncing at other stages of the championship.

baire (Galway) - Posts: 1849 - 06/07/2016 11:32:30    1877217

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While Galway can rightly claim three victories against Kilkenny in the Cody era does this mean they have been Kilkennys greatest challengers during this time?I don't think it does.I did a little research into Galways 11 losses to Kilkenny and in 8/11 defeats,Kilkenny won by over four points,quite comfortably in most cases.In only 3/7 Tipperary losses to Kilkenny did the cats win by over four points with most of the games being in the balance right until the end.Tipp could count themselves unlucky to have lost the 2009 final and were a Hawkeye call away from winning the 2014 drawn final.Along with the 2010 win a lot of pundits have said these are three of the greatest All Ireland finals ever played.Galway brought Kilkenny to two replays also although the games were not of the same standard.

I would also add in the three League finals played between Tipp and Kilkenny in the last 10 years ; all brilliant games with Kilkenny in their prime winning one by a single point and Tipperary agonisingly close bringing the other two to extra time.Cruel for Tipp once again as the cats somehow managed to scrape home in all three.

In the Cody era Tipp and Galway have met seven times with Tipp winning four to Galway's three.In the teams last 10 league meetings Tipperary have beaten Galway seven times,drawn two,with Galway just having one victory.

It is my opinion that Tipperary have been the second best county over the last 8 years or so.They have produced a higher,more consistent standard of hurling than all bar Kilkenny.I do have Tipp roots and some may say i am biased in this regards.I admire the passion the likes of condorman has for Galway.I feel the same for Tipp but i try to remain impartial in my appraisal of games and call it as i see it.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 06/07/2016 12:19:47    1877250

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A load of bull about the club rivalries being the problem anymore. Shur they have no problem drinking together and celebrating their cship results be it win or lose.
They don't have the drive, hunger and most of all aren't good enough

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 07/07/2016 12:17:27    1877831

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Replying To hurlinspuds:  "Baire We are talking about two differerent things. I'm talking about potential, you're talking about historical.

Even in terms of history, in the Cody era I would say cork have surely beaten KK more times than galway have."
You can say it but you would be wrong.

Condorman (Dublin) - Posts: 983 - 07/07/2016 14:02:48    1877914

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I thought these two pieces were good on the game:

https://performtraynor.wordpress.com/2016/07/07/no-need-to-panic-for-galway/
https://performtraynor.wordpress.com/2016/07/04/kilkenny-dont-do-tactics-right/

Hope it's ok to link them

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2553 - 07/07/2016 21:42:40    1878179

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I thought these two pieces were good on the game:

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Hope it's ok to link them, last post didn't link right!

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2553 - 07/07/2016 21:53:39    1878190

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Galway will win the hurling All Ireland this year with Mayo to win the football. Pressure is off them now.

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 07/07/2016 22:04:47    1878198

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Replying To crikey:  "Galway will win the hurling All Ireland this year with Mayo to win the football. Pressure is off them now."
Have u banged your head off a digerydoo?

juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 07/07/2016 22:07:47    1878200

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Replying To icehonesty:  "I thought these two pieces were good on the game:

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Hope it's ok to link them, last post didn't link right!"
Fair play ice' two well constructed and fair pieces.I like this reporter who is he?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 07/07/2016 22:17:04    1878209

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Replying To cuederocket:  "
Replying To icehonesty:  "I thought these two pieces were good on the game:

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Hope it's ok to link them, last post didn't link right!"
Fair play ice' two well constructed and fair pieces.I like this reporter who is he?"
He's a Performance Analyst and Sport Psychologist. I thought those two articles were quite interesting alright.

icehonesty (Wexford) - Posts: 2553 - 08/07/2016 09:25:33    1878308

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