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Replying To Andy: "Its all done and dusted now anyways, the game is due to be replayed on Saturday week so might aswell move on with it. What happens to the game against Clare now, is that pushed back to the following weekend to be played alongside the 2B round of qualifier fixtures? One thing though. If this game is a replay (as seems to be the terminology used) does that mean John O'Loughlin has served his suspension in the previous game and can play? Or is the previous game seen as null and void in which case he would still be serving the suspension?" "What happens to the game against Clare now, is that pushed back to the following weekend to be played alongside the 2B round of qualifier fixtures?" The hurling match goes ahead as originally fixed. No doubleheader, unfortunately. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 22/06/2016 12:59:15 1870712 Link
Replying To keeper7: "Traditionally, if you played an extra sub or had 16 players on the pitch at any stage you could be thrown out of the competition. With the introduction of the blood substitution & the black card there's a lot of room for confusion nowadays, though." A technical mistake, with absoutely no bearing on the result. Armagh should say "thanks, but no thanks" Monaghan Exile (Monaghan) - Posts: 442 - 22/06/2016 13:03:35 1870714 Link
To my laois friends - Armagh didn't complain or cry.... there was talk about the 7th sub straight after the game but we were ALL depressed.... no one really made an issue about it.... the Armagh management on the Sunday game and BBC accepted defeat.... it was a brutal performance...... as posters have said are we up for a rematch....... i don't know..... moral is extremely low in the county at the moment.... the lowest in over 20yrs.... the minors were in command on sunday and blew it .... this was a seriously good minor team.... derry deserved it..... last night at at football match and at Monday night's Co. Board meeting it felt like a wake..... There is opinion that we should use this to improve moral but i worry we might even loose by more.... unfortunately laois used at extra man on the field..... that man may have prevent armagh from getting a goal ( highly unlikely) I'm disappointed that its back in Portlaoise - maybe Tullamore/Mullingar etc..... but at 5pm last Saturday I would have jumped at the chance of a replay..... Laois have accepted it was their fault ... i don't buy that.... it was the fourth official who made the mistake so it was the GAA who made the error....... hopefully more than the 50-100 laois supporters turn up this time!!!!! cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 22/06/2016 13:18:15 1870723 Link
Replying To credit_crunch: "The thing about this is Armagh didnt ask for a replay if CCCC investigated this game and said to Dublin here the game has to be replayed im certain they would have you need to look at the facts" What have I done now? Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 22/06/2016 13:43:59 1870734 Link
Replying To Monaghan Exile: "A technical mistake, with absoutely no bearing on the result. Armagh should say "thanks, but no thanks"" This is not up to Armagh. Rules are rules. There's a fixture made now - get on with it. There was a cock-up on Sunday night in one of the biggest golf tournaments in the world.... keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 22/06/2016 13:58:55 1870743 Link
Replying To keeper7: "If the full rules were applied Laois would be thrown out." No your wrong there is fine ,replay our throwing out that is whatever one decided by cccc Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 22/06/2016 13:59:20 1870744 Link
As before: Traditionally, if you played an extra sub or had 16 players on the pitch at any stage you could be thrown out of the competition. With the introduction of the blood substitution & the black card there's a lot of room for confusion nowadays, though. That's where the CCCC comes in. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 22/06/2016 14:26:06 1870761 Link
Replying To Monaghan Exile: "A technical mistake, with absoutely no bearing on the result. Armagh should say "thanks, but no thanks"" Totally agree . TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 22/06/2016 15:02:47 1870787 Link
Replying To keeper7: "Traditionally, if you played an extra sub or had 16 players on the pitch at any stage you could be thrown out of the competition. With the introduction of the blood substitution & the black card there's a lot of room for confusion nowadays, though." So does this mean that Tyrone are the real All Ireland Champions from 1995 onlyhurling (Galway) - Posts: 800 - 22/06/2016 16:31:00 1870820 Link
Replying To cuchulainn35: "To my laois friends - Armagh didn't complain or cry.... there was talk about the 7th sub straight after the game but we were ALL depressed.... no one really made an issue about it.... the Armagh management on the Sunday game and BBC accepted defeat.... it was a brutal performance...... as posters have said are we up for a rematch....... i don't know..... moral is extremely low in the county at the moment.... the lowest in over 20yrs.... the minors were in command on sunday and blew it .... this was a seriously good minor team.... derry deserved it..... last night at at football match and at Monday night's Co. Board meeting it felt like a wake..... There is opinion that we should use this to improve moral but i worry we might even loose by more.... unfortunately laois used at extra man on the field..... that man may have prevent armagh from getting a goal ( highly unlikely) I'm disappointed that its back in Portlaoise - maybe Tullamore/Mullingar etc..... but at 5pm last Saturday I would have jumped at the chance of a replay..... Laois have accepted it was their fault ... i don't buy that.... it was the fourth official who made the mistake so it was the GAA who made the error....... hopefully more than the 50-100 laois supporters turn up this time!!!!!" Don't be coming down to Portlaoise if your morals are low - we need to protect our young ladies. PudsyRyan (Laois) - Posts: 15 - 22/06/2016 16:56:00 1870833 Link
This is twice in a couple weeks officials have made massive errors and the silence regarding blame or punishment for them in the media or the gaa coming out and saying it's not good enough and needs to be adressed is very dissapointing. when a player is found to have done something wrong the media and pundits lace into them. A two match suspension for officials would be appropriate hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 22/06/2016 19:13:26 1870876 Link
Replying To Monaghan Exile: "A technical mistake, with absoutely no bearing on the result. Armagh should say "thanks, but no thanks"" And then face a penalty themselves for not fielding? It should not be forgotten that Armagh did nothing wrong. They did not lodge an objection either. They are following the rules. They also had the overall majority of support who face the travel costs and travel time again. A 5-6 hour round trip is not a gift. Armaghball (Armagh) - Posts: 96 - 22/06/2016 19:55:48 1870892 Link
Feel sorry for the players having to play again. Whoever wins will have have to probably play a tight schedule of matches against fresher teams. crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 23/06/2016 11:22:39 1871100 Link
Lads does anyone else not think its a disgrace Laois are allowed to play again. They cheated plain and simple. They didn't do it on purpose, but they still did it. They should be put out and Armagh take their place, simple. Real Madrid played a suspended player and they won the tie possibly 4-0 on aggregate but they were thrown out of the copa del Rey . I mean can someone actually tel me what would happen if a team is losing by 5-6 points and they play an extra sub? It's a ridiculous decision in my opinion. Frederick (Louth) - Posts: 479 - 23/06/2016 14:12:33 1871195 Link
To me the Blame should lie with the Laois management and County Secretary. The Laois Secretary would have 6 subs slips plus 4 blood subs slips and as no blood subs were used his slips should have been all used. Further to this a black card was issued for the last sub so Laois had 15 on pitch instead of 14 as Armagh chased for a goal during the last passage of play. I dont know exactly but usually the team that are leading a game will introduce subs in lets say the 66th 68th 70th minites to stop the game and stall the flow of the game. The Manager and Secretary of the Laois team must except most of the blame as with all the late subs and PA announcments and holding up subs boards and checking that players have come off the field, and issueing fines for Team Official breaking Match Regulations, the Sideline Official may not have had time to enter all the subs onto his sheet before he noticed that Laois had used 7. So managers who wanna waste time at the end of a game by bringing in a 'SUB' be careful. Replay sounds fair but Laois got off lightly to me. kikfada (Louth) - Posts: 2091 - 23/06/2016 14:30:33 1871211 Link
Replying To hill16no1man: "No Dublin said no matter what after that game they were beaten fairly on the pitch and wouldn't be looking into anything. I think you can Take that at face value to be honest" Again Armagh didnt seek this it was ordered by the CCCC they could have to play it. Maybe when the investigation was carried out by Mayo dublin noone had done anything wrong credit_crunch (Armagh) - Posts: 57 - 23/06/2016 15:40:03 1871254 Link
Well done Laois Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1018 - 02/07/2016 16:36:48 1875049 Link
feel sorry for McGeeney. He's taken a lot of flak this past few weeks but thats two disastrous seasons in a row now. Lets not forget that in 2014 (the year before he took over) armagh pushed eventual runners up donegal to the pin of their collar in the all ireland quarter final. Bad dip in form since then. joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 02/07/2016 16:45:19 1875052 Link

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