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Did Laois use 7 subs ?

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Cavan tried a smarter one on Sunday. Put on a sub and don't take off the lad been replaced.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 21/06/2016 14:53:56    1870257

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Replying To border Gael:  "Cavan tried a smarter one on Sunday. Put on a sub and don't take off the lad been replaced."
You will get the Cavan boys mad again there very touchy as few days

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/06/2016 14:57:34    1870260

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Mayo's subs in 2012 were indeed a bit suspect.

Either way, Dublin didn't bother complaining. Gave them the benefit of the doubt.

Mayo deservedly won the game that day. No complaints from the Dubs who were very gracious in defeat afterward if I remember rightly.

Look, Armagh could possibly feel aggrieved. But the guy came on 3 minutes into injury time at the end.

Fine them, Fair enough, But to have a game replayed or to give Armagh the game because of a bloke being on a field for a couple of second without even touching the ball is a bit harsh.

Over the 70 minutes Armagh got what they deserved and that was a championship exit.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 21/06/2016 15:07:38    1870272

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Looks like a replay.

One we dont deserve. They were the better side, the weakened team we had out on Saturday will be weakened if the reports are true. appar some of our lads left for the states (and france).
Silly mistake by Laois but i would expect them to beat us in the replay.

ArmaghAndProud (Armagh) - Posts: 32 - 21/06/2016 15:09:15    1870275

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They should have to forfeit home advantage for their next match against Dublin.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12122 - 21/06/2016 15:23:01    1870282

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Breffini, wouldn't make any difference to the 10 Laois supporters who actually turn up to a game

witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 21/06/2016 15:30:36    1870292

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Replying To waynoI:  "The 7th sub came on in the 73rd minute..

Ridiculous then to even consider disqualifying them for bringin in a guy who likely didn't even tough the ball or have any major impact in the game."
But that would make it even more stupid on Laois's behalf.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/06/2016 15:51:20    1870313

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By the way,if the game has to go to a replay will they qualifier draw have to be re-done? Would it not be null and void?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 21/06/2016 15:56:59    1870315

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "By the way,if the game has to go to a replay will they qualifier draw have to be re-done? Would it not be null and void?"
No why would draw need to be redone ?

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/06/2016 16:09:32    1870326

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Replying To Andy:  "I swear to God if the powers that be throw us out of the competition for making a genuine mistake when the game was done (the 7th sub came on 3 mins into injury time when Armagh were 2 points down at the time), then it will seriously look like their aim is to do a number on us!

Would the Armagh contingent look for a replay? I would accept if the sub came around 10 mins from the end but the game was up?
I would hazard a guess that we would get a fine, but even that I would hope the Laois county board stand firm on, especially after running it by the 4th official and him Ok'ing it."
I agree it's cruel. And unfair. And the rightful winners of the game may now end up being eliminated. However I would take issue with because it was the 73rd minute it should be judged more softly. My biggest gripe and I know it's the same with alot of other fans is the inconsistencies in the application of rules. Both inter county and club. We need more black and white rules where every team and officials know the outcome. It shouldn't matter one iota whether the 7th sub came on in the 3rd minute or the 73rd minute the punishment of the mistake should be the same and consistent. Too much messing has gone on with rules/suspensions outcomes over the last number of seasons.

SamandLiamSoon (Galway) - Posts: 597 - 21/06/2016 16:15:01    1870330

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2010 meath v louth. Meath make an illegal manouvere as player jumps into net with ball officials fail to spot it and allow it. Its not revisited. Result stands. 2016 laois v armagh . Laois make illegal manouvere with extra sub. Officials again fail to cop . Indeed whole gaa fails to notice. Replay announced. Can anyone explain the difference ?

Malonemagic (Laois) - Posts: 767 - 21/06/2016 16:17:20    1870333

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Replying To Malonemagic:  "2010 meath v louth. Meath make an illegal manouvere as player jumps into net with ball officials fail to spot it and allow it. Its not revisited. Result stands. 2016 laois v armagh . Laois make illegal manouvere with extra sub. Officials again fail to cop . Indeed whole gaa fails to notice. Replay announced. Can anyone explain the difference ?"
In the game Meath v Louth it was a score that was allowed not time our subs used . Laois used 7 subs and broke the rules to the rule book unlike Meath v Louth if you pick up every score that should have been not giving the season would never finish on replays

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/06/2016 16:23:41    1870335

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Wouldn't it be fitting if the replay was played as a double header with meath v Antrim on Saturday night.....

Jinxie (Meath) - Posts: 6344 - 21/06/2016 16:52:15    1870353

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "In the game Meath v Louth it was a score that was allowed not time our subs used . Laois used 7 subs and broke the rules to the rule book unlike Meath v Louth if you pick up every score that should have been not giving the season would never finish on replays"
In the Louth vMeath game the rules were broken regarding the manner in which the ball ended up in the net, rules are rules you cannot be selective in which ones you choose when it comes to fairness and doing the right thing.

If you couple an Armagh v Laois replay with the forthcoming Antrim v Meath replay it certainly shows how much the GAA disrespected the Louth pleas for fairness back in 2010.

THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 21/06/2016 16:53:23    1870355

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It has to be replayed. Otherwise some more cynical team might do it deliberately, win the match and deliberately pick up a fine.

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 21/06/2016 16:56:09    1870356

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Replying To THE_SNAPPER:  "In the Louth vMeath game the rules were broken regarding the manner in which the ball ended up in the net, rules are rules you cannot be selective in which ones you choose when it comes to fairness and doing the right thing.

If you couple an Armagh v Laois replay with the forthcoming Antrim v Meath replay it certainly shows how much the GAA disrespected the Louth pleas for fairness back in 2010."
Like I said it happened on the field teams get frees that where scored that are not frees ,surely if everyone nit picked up decisions season would never finish .the laois using to many subs falls under different circumstances

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/06/2016 16:56:32    1870357

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Surely the powers to be will see Common sense with this one....

Laois asked the 4th offical could they make the sub he said yes...It was with 28 seconds left on the clock....

A replay would be farcical throwing Laois out would the biggest crime in the GAA's recent history

Even a fine would be a tad harsh but maybe would have t be applied so as not to set a trend of it happening in the future.

Armagh don't want a replay I would say and their players are probably happy to be going to France and other places on holidays.

I suspect it will be sorted very quickly tonight by the powers that be....

It might be a good thing that it will insure it doesn't happen in bigger games and the 4th Official might have to take ALL(and in my opinion the correctly)the responsibility in making sure the subs/black card subs/and blood subs are done correctly

By all accounts Saturday was a joke for both teams with subs being made....

TIME THE GAA BECAME MORE PROFESSIONAL IN OFFICIATING THE GAMES WE LOVE

BigJohn.6_8 (Galway) - Posts: 704 - 21/06/2016 16:58:41    1870358

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Incidentally if we are offering replays where a team has a player too many on the pitch...I guess we'll have to replay the 1995 All Ireland Final as well...using only players from 1995.

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 21/06/2016 17:02:19    1870361

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The same thing happened in our club championship a few years back and the club was thrown out. In the particular case the extra sub was on for 1minute (I think in extra time) and never got near the ball. The club that objected refused a replay and won the senior championship.

browncows (Meath) - Posts: 2342 - 21/06/2016 17:06:57    1870363

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Replying To browncows:  "The same thing happened in our club championship a few years back and the club was thrown out. In the particular case the extra sub was on for 1minute (I think in extra time) and never got near the ball. The club that objected refused a replay and won the senior championship."
O mahonys was it I believe could be wrong semi final

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/06/2016 17:13:32    1870365

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