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Donegal taking McGhee appeal to next stage no wonder there discipline is shocking when they think it is ok to strike a lad . Rory Gallagher has brought bad discipline to this team unlike Jim mc Guinness who had great discipline

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 27/06/2016 16:42:43    1872903

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I see from RTE last night that without doubt Donegal goal shouldn't have stood. Not only that but black card for Donegal player. However. I think draw a fair result overall and may the best side win replay. If it's Donegal I hope they win Ulster.
Monaghan will be harder to beat in the replay though. Hughes boys simply cannot play as badly again. Maybe recently injured like McCarron and McGinn can play a big part. Both are tremendous prospects and Donegal know very little about them !

Shelbourne (Monaghan) - Posts: 567 - 27/06/2016 16:56:36    1872912

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "Donegal taking McGhee appeal to next stage no wonder there discipline is shocking when they think it is ok to strike a lad . Rory Gallagher has brought bad discipline to this team unlike Jim mc Guinness who had great discipline"
Trying way too hard dellboy, way too hard.

Successful trolling requires a certain subtlety, nobody is going to take any Tyrone man giving out about discipline seriously.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 27/06/2016 18:44:40    1872977

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I don't think there is much between the sides to be honest & wouldn't see any more than a score or two between them.

A defeat wouldn't be the end of the road for either as, judging from last Saturday, they would be well equipped for a run through the qualifiers a la Tyrone.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 27/06/2016 18:47:27    1872978

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Replying To Lockjaw:  "Don't think it's on TV as Sky have the rights to any Saturday night games and they're showing the hurling this weekend. Surely Murdoch could spare a few cameras for Breffni as well? I'd imagine there would be a lot of neutral interest in the game."
Thanks Lockjaw .

I'm out the country - oh no thats dissapointing if that's the case .

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 27/06/2016 19:30:15    1872998

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The back door would be better after saturday than after the ulster final imo. Too deflating to go at it again after losing ulster. The only side to do it was tyrone in 2005 I believe. (winning the all ireland I mean). We obviously did it in 2013 and 2015, (6 day turn around in 2013), but didnt last the distance either year thereafter. There is too many tough games played as well as disappointment and not enough time to regroup if you go in the back door this way.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 27/06/2016 19:51:12    1873004

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "Donegal taking McGhee appeal to next stage no wonder there discipline is shocking when they think it is ok to strike a lad . Rory Gallagher has brought bad discipline to this team unlike Jim mc Guinness who had great discipline"
Delboypolecat
So you say that Donegal thinks it alright to strike a lad.
I would not agree with that at all and by right there should be no issue with the two game ban But why should he serve a ban over two games when similar offences committed last year and the year before saw no player serving a ban
How many appeals were last year/2014. Most of the red cards were for striking offences or dishing out a slight little kick. But I think most of the appeals were successful with no ban being served
Neil McGee has already served two bans this year, what about D Connolly or Lee Keegan over the last couple of years?
But the main reason I wanted to reply to you was to jog your memory a bit.
If you can go back to 2003 ( I'm almost certain that was the year) did a Tyrone player not serve a six month ban over a stamping incident in a match v Kildare. I think the same player played in the All Ireland final after serving his ban.
We want to be careful who we critize , we are no angels neither are Tyrone. Or anybody else for that matter.

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 27/06/2016 20:04:08    1873008

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There is no chance of the replay being televised anywhere?

DL4SAM (Donegal) - Posts: 19 - 28/06/2016 12:45:38    1873237

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "Donegal taking McGhee appeal to next stage no wonder there discipline is shocking when they think it is ok to strike a lad . Rory Gallagher has brought bad discipline to this team unlike Jim mc Guinness who had great discipline"
Most counties in recent years have tried to have bans overturned (and in the most part have been successful), Dublin last year with Connolly, Mayo with Keegan and Keane in the last few years. Doesn't mean they 'think it's ok to strike a lad'. He's a big player for them so if they can get him back for an important game obviously they're going to chance their arm and have a go. Don't think it's fair to insinuate they condone what happened.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 28/06/2016 14:17:05    1873298

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I think Neil McGee deserved to get a ban and I have yet to meet a Donegal fan who condoned it. However I feel 2 matches is a bit too harsh. Fair enough if the same bans apply to similar incidents this year but we all know what will happen.

Back to the match, a draw was probably a fair result and there really is nothing between these two sides. The drawn game was a lot more open that the Ulster final last year. I thought it would be a dour struggle so was delighted that it was such an exciting game. I can't see the game this weekend being much different, there is only going to be a point or two in it and hard to tell who will come out on top. Both teams shot quite a few wides so whoever can polish up on their shooting should win out the day.

By the way, do posters think these two sides have improved since last year? Or have they gone backwards? Before the match I thought both teams were going backwards but they seem to have injected pace in their teams and have actualy improved.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 28/06/2016 14:48:33    1873322

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "I think Neil McGee deserved to get a ban and I have yet to meet a Donegal fan who condoned it. However I feel 2 matches is a bit too harsh. Fair enough if the same bans apply to similar incidents this year but we all know what will happen.

Back to the match, a draw was probably a fair result and there really is nothing between these two sides. The drawn game was a lot more open that the Ulster final last year. I thought it would be a dour struggle so was delighted that it was such an exciting game. I can't see the game this weekend being much different, there is only going to be a point or two in it and hard to tell who will come out on top. Both teams shot quite a few wides so whoever can polish up on their shooting should win out the day.

By the way, do posters think these two sides have improved since last year? Or have they gone backwards? Before the match I thought both teams were going backwards but they seem to have injected pace in their teams and have actualy improved."
Would have to disagree with you on McGee. Assaults like that have no place in any sport. Suggesting that his ban is harsh is tantamount to partial acceptance of such behaviour. As to whether Donegal and Monaghan have improved from last year, I think we will have to wait for the Ulster final to find out. Maybe they have or maybe they are like two old boxers slugging it out with neither having enough puff to knock the other one out.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 28/06/2016 15:12:32    1873344

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "I think Neil McGee deserved to get a ban and I have yet to meet a Donegal fan who condoned it. However I feel 2 matches is a bit too harsh. Fair enough if the same bans apply to similar incidents this year but we all know what will happen.

Back to the match, a draw was probably a fair result and there really is nothing between these two sides. The drawn game was a lot more open that the Ulster final last year. I thought it would be a dour struggle so was delighted that it was such an exciting game. I can't see the game this weekend being much different, there is only going to be a point or two in it and hard to tell who will come out on top. Both teams shot quite a few wides so whoever can polish up on their shooting should win out the day.

By the way, do posters think these two sides have improved since last year? Or have they gone backwards? Before the match I thought both teams were going backwards but they seem to have injected pace in their teams and have actualy improved."
I think both teams have improved. As you said, there is an extra bit of pace to both attacks and that is probably why the game was exciting. Before the game I wasn't sure what to expect from Donegal but I did think that they were going to be facing a better Monaghan team than what they have faced in the last couple of years. I was impressed with both teams and I think whoever loses on saturday will still be in good shape come the last 8. The biggest loser from the 2 replays from this weekend will actually be the loser of the final itself. Very hard to recover from losing the Ulster Final as we have seen with Monaghan and Donegal in the last few years.

Mobot (Donegal) - Posts: 459 - 28/06/2016 15:18:13    1873349

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Replying To Green_Gold:  "I think Neil McGee deserved to get a ban and I have yet to meet a Donegal fan who condoned it. However I feel 2 matches is a bit too harsh. Fair enough if the same bans apply to similar incidents this year but we all know what will happen.

Back to the match, a draw was probably a fair result and there really is nothing between these two sides. The drawn game was a lot more open that the Ulster final last year. I thought it would be a dour struggle so was delighted that it was such an exciting game. I can't see the game this weekend being much different, there is only going to be a point or two in it and hard to tell who will come out on top. Both teams shot quite a few wides so whoever can polish up on their shooting should win out the day.

By the way, do posters think these two sides have improved since last year? Or have they gone backwards? Before the match I thought both teams were going backwards but they seem to have injected pace in their teams and have actualy improved."
The reason McGee received 2 match ban as he was sent off against Kerry in league meaning he was one ban was doubled.

Gael85 (Dublin) - Posts: 1433 - 28/06/2016 15:21:10    1873358

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Should be a great replay, thought Donegal had Monaghan's measure last time out but was a very enjoyable game. Loved the physicality from both teams, contemplating making the trip down for the replay myself.

GetOverTheBar (Tyrone) - Posts: 1388 - 28/06/2016 16:07:18    1873417

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Replying To GetOverTheBar:  "Should be a great replay, thought Donegal had Monaghan's measure last time out but was a very enjoyable game. Loved the physicality from both teams, contemplating making the trip down for the replay myself."
Yep. Murph leveled Drew Wylie that time with the shoulder. No easy feat as Wylie is a unit himself!

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9141 - 28/06/2016 16:20:03    1873424

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Replying To Gael85:  "The reason McGee received 2 match ban as he was sent off against Kerry in league meaning he was one ban was doubled."
To a certain extent I would agree with you here but its just the precedent where players who have used their closed fist to punch get off with no ban. I suppose we all have rose tinted glasses when it comes to our own players. I do accept that Neil McGee did wrong and does deserve a ban, just the severity of it I would argue with, I don't see why his previous red card in a league game should come into it. If the GAA acted with consistency regarding these matters, we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

The whole appeals process is a bit of a fiasco anyhow, just undermines the referees.

Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 28/06/2016 17:23:29    1873461

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If my memory serves me correct, Neil Mc Gee was not sent off in Kerry that day he pulled Alan Fitzgerald finger.
I think it was only when the video evidence was used that he received a retrospective ban for the offence. i think maybe that is the basis the county board are objecting on.

green and gold (Donegal) - Posts: 105 - 28/06/2016 17:43:44    1873467

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Replying To green and gold:  "If my memory serves me correct, Neil Mc Gee was not sent off in Kerry that day he pulled Alan Fitzgerald finger.
I think it was only when the video evidence was used that he received a retrospective ban for the offence. i think maybe that is the basis the county board are objecting on."
He was 100% sent off against Kerry.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 28/06/2016 17:52:23    1873469

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Replying To green and gold:  "If my memory serves me correct, Neil Mc Gee was not sent off in Kerry that day he pulled Alan Fitzgerald finger.
I think it was only when the video evidence was used that he received a retrospective ban for the offence. i think maybe that is the basis the county board are objecting on."
Sorry, scrap my last message, it was Fitzgerald that was sent off! You're 100% right! :)

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 28/06/2016 17:53:57    1873470

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It could work out as a massive plus for us for Neil McGee to serve this ban, as we have discovered and blooded in a new player, who is shaping up very well indeed. We also will have him for the fixture after monaghan whether it is back door or ulster final, because the last fixture was a draw.

I am sure he will be chomping at the bit to play when he gets back.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 28/06/2016 20:15:35    1873524

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