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A hugely enjoyable game that everyone who was at the game Donegal & Monaghan alike thoroughly enjoyed. If Donegal had taken their chances & kept their discipline then I feel they would have won the game, however they were also lucky to get away with the goal so honours even overall.

That said I cannot allow the issue of Rory Gallagher's style of management go unaddressed.

I am on record here as saying that I have no faith in Rory Gallagher & his way of doing things. He was manager of my club team, Kilcar, before taking on the Donegal team so what you are seeing now I have been looking at for a number of years. All the unsavoury stuff, diving, poor discipline, maors encroaching, squabbles with opposing management are his way of doing things & someone from the Co Board needs to have a firm word with him as it is not doing us any favours on the field or on it.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 26/06/2016 10:05:06    1872143

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Draw a fair result both sides missed a lot of chances in each half. We looked set for victory until Donegal goal which I hear should have been called for a 3rd man tackle on Fintan Kelly in the lead up. After goal we looked headed for defeat so fair play to lads for digging it out. Donegal's big players like Murphy had more influence than previous meetings and the McHughs running game posed serious problems for our defence. They also handed Mansy far better than previously. On the plus side Karl O'Connell and Owen Duffy caused them serious problems. Still confident we will win replay as feel if Donegal were going to beat us it was last night they looked pumped up all over pitch and on the sidelines. Few of our key men didnt play great and will be better next week. Bring it on.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1800 - 26/06/2016 10:06:22    1872144

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Replying To rossy15:  "Donegal a pale shadow of the 2011 - 2013 team they may win the replay but neither of those teams will trouble Tyrone or cavan for that matter imo
Michael Murphy does not look 100 % match fit which is a huge problem for donegal
Discipline also a big problem - even though there's probably a kick of sorts left n them I think they need to rebuild and transition n a few new lads over the next 1 -2 years"
Can't agree with this at all.

Donegal played some great football yesterday, What let us down was discpline & accuracy both of which can be addressed.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 26/06/2016 10:10:04    1872146

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Surprised it hasn't been mentioned but lwhy did McManus get a yellow card and not a black card. McGlynn gave the ball off and was continuing his movement and was fouled which in my mind is a third man tackle ? The linesman saw it and a yellow card was issued why was it not a black card ?

dubshurling7 (Dublin) - Posts: 1017 - 26/06/2016 10:15:08    1872148

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Replying To dubshurling7:  "Surprised it hasn't been mentioned but lwhy did McManus get a yellow card and not a black card. McGlynn gave the ball off and was continuing his movement and was fouled which in my mind is a third man tackle ? The linesman saw it and a yellow card was issued why was it not a black card ?"
For it to be a third man tackle there has to be a third man surely.

Going by your logic nearly every foul is a third man tackle as it is designed to impede progress.

Much & all as I would like to have seen McManus get a black card this was not the tackle to do it!!

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 26/06/2016 10:25:19    1872155

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A hugely enjoyable game that everyone who was at the game Donegal & Monaghan alike thoroughly enjoyed. If Donegal had taken their chances & kept their discipline then I feel they would have won the game, however they were also lucky to get away with the goal so honours even overall.

That said I cannot allow the issue of Rory Gallagher's style of management go unaddressed.

I am on record here as saying that I have no faith in Rory Gallagher & his way of doing things. He was manager of my club team, Kilcar, before taking on the Donegal team so what you are seeing now I have been looking at for a number of years. All the unsavoury stuff, diving, poor discipline, maors encroaching, squabbles with opposing management are his way of doing things & someone from the Co Board needs to have a firm word with him as it is not doing us any favours on the field or on it.
MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts:3932 - 26/06/2016 10:05:06 1872143

Spot on there Muckrosshead.
Wasn't a bad game but RG is a bit of a loose cannon IMO.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 26/06/2016 10:26:04    1872157

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Really enjoyed the game, I was changing my mind every few minutes as to who I wanted to win. I still feel Donegal look like the team that will improve the most for the replay. They got in behind Monaghan a good few times. Mc Manus is the most clinical point scorer in Ireland and with him Monaghan always have a chance because Donegal gave away some stupid frees. But Donegal looked more dangerous I felt when they turned over the ball.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 26/06/2016 10:56:31    1872166

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Great game of football, best game of championship so far. Game was played in sections where both teams had dominance. Donegal kicked some bad wides TBF which is Unlike Murphy. He got the better of Corey last night, unplayable in the full forward line if ball in is good. Donegal may have found a big player in Eoin Mc Hugh, he was brilliant last night as was his cousin. Midfield battle broke even, again the Hughes poor for Monaaghan in a big game. Karl O Connell, Mc Manus Eoin Duffy were immense. Young lads like Mc Anespie and Mc Carthy fizzled out as the game wore on. Donegal deep running caused Monaghan big problems. You could see Donegal had targeted this game since January, they were really up for it. Donegal tactics/gamesmanship: what about it? They have lost 5 of the last 7 games V Monaghan, its a win at all costs mentality that counts. If a water runner is distracting, the ref has to act on it. Keeper was silly in what he did do. Replay could go either way for the loser its a long road back.

222 (UK) - Posts: 694 - 26/06/2016 11:10:31    1872170

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Great game and as usual our fellas got stuck in, no quarter given or asked. They did us proud and should/would have closed the game out, but for the off the ball foul for Mc Neilis's goal (he did nothing else in the game yet gets all the plaudits)
As or the "anything to win" antics in the second half, like last year I'm not going to single out a young fella for cynical tactics when it is obviously a general team tactic, including the manager. If Pete Mc Grath say's your team is guilty of gamesmanship well there has to be some truth in it. Sad to see really
We're still in it and will be ready for next weekend

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 26/06/2016 11:14:32    1872171

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Replying To MuckrossHead:  "For it to be a third man tackle there has to be a third man surely.

Going by your logic nearly every foul is a third man tackle as it is designed to impede progress.

Much & all as I would like to have seen McManus get a black card this was not the tackle to do it!!"
For goodness sake of course it was a black card..it was late , intentional and many more words that I will not use.

letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 153 - 26/06/2016 11:15:56    1872173

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Replying To letterkennyGuy:  "For goodness sake of course it was a black card..it was late , intentional and many more words that I will not use."
Being either late or intentional has nothing to do with it. It wasn't a third man tackle, he didn't drag McGlynn to the ground, therefore no black card.
I fail to see what is so difficult to understand about that.

MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 26/06/2016 11:23:54    1872176

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Replying To mhunicean_abu:  "Great game and as usual our fellas got stuck in, no quarter given or asked. They did us proud and should/would have closed the game out, but for the off the ball foul for Mc Neilis's goal (he did nothing else in the game yet gets all the plaudits)
As or the "anything to win" antics in the second half, like last year I'm not going to single out a young fella for cynical tactics when it is obviously a general team tactic, including the manager. If Pete Mc Grath say's your team is guilty of gamesmanship well there has to be some truth in it. Sad to see really
We're still in it and will be ready for next weekend"
Take off the rose tinted glasses buddy. Il leave it at that......

letterkennyGuy (Donegal) - Posts: 153 - 26/06/2016 11:29:34    1872178

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When and where is the replay?

tyroneed (Tyrone) - Posts: 753 - 26/06/2016 11:34:39    1872180

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For goodness sake of course it was a black card..it was late , intentional and many more words that I will not use.
letterkennyGuy (Donegal)

No black card It was either a yellow card or a red card, one or the other, he did not drag down a player in possession or prevent a player from engaging in the game (unlike what happened for the goal). It was late, reckless and yes if you want to debate "dirty" I will, but it wasn't black

mhunicean_abu (Monaghan) - Posts: 1044 - 26/06/2016 11:42:27    1872183

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what about the abuse murphy got from drew wylie and corey when he moved to full forward early in game. and the umpire standing looking at it. complete joke if it was mc manus i guarantee you it wudnt be long to see there hands going up. hopefully the replay will not be in cavan , too hard to get out and fair being fair its hardly a neutral venue. you cud see that by the support last night for monaghan. what bout omagh or enniskillen

rorysboys (Donegal) - Posts: 2408 - 26/06/2016 11:43:41    1872186

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Dont think monaghan will be beaten next week as big players didnt show up last night, hughes bros made alot of mistakes, forget bout beggan taking free kicks, anything inside 50m give it 2 mansy, as for the game monaghan were lucky to get the draw and donegal played some brillant football when down to 14 and at16 and back at 15 at the death
Donegal management were a disgrace at the end

binman53 (Monaghan) - Posts: 104 - 26/06/2016 11:51:21    1872191

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Draw a fair result. I think there are huge pros and cons for a draw and replay for us.

If we win, we have a much needed neil mcgee back for the ulster final. If we win we will be in very good competitive shape for the ulster final, provided we stay injury and suspension free. We also have a chance to give our new lads another taste of championship action. Neil gallagher could be fit again, not sure about this but we will see.

If we lose, or monaghan lose, then it is the end of the season for either team. Too many games, mental and physical exhaustion will take its toll on teams with smaller panels.

Re gamesmanship, I didnt see but listened to the game as I was working yesterday. It is one reason that I did not renew my season ticket this year. The gamesmanship every year is getting worse.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 26/06/2016 11:58:53    1872199

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Replying To tyroneed:  "When and where is the replay?"
Replay is on Saturday. Time and venue to be confirmed but probably Breffni again at the same time as yesterday I imagine.

Does anyone know if this game will be televised?? I'm away next weekend and can't make it. But at the moment RTE are due to show a qualifier game, as are sky sports.

HandballRef (Donegal) - Posts: 520 - 26/06/2016 12:02:13    1872200

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Why can we not have a double header next Sunday in clones????

Awwwwnow (Cavan) - Posts: 1050 - 26/06/2016 12:08:50    1872202

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Replying To Awwwwnow:  "Why can we not have a double header next Sunday in clones????"
Great idea.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 26/06/2016 12:17:51    1872208

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