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A Joke I was down in Thurles on Saturday and 25 wasn't bad value for the 3 games ...I ended up going to Clare v Laois in ennis on Sunday 20 euro to stand under a bad roof on a terrace for a qualifier my Gaa the gaa would want to sit up and take note!
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Went to two games in Clones. The semi and the replay.
2 Adults €25 ea and 2 children free Total €50
Qualifier game 2 Adults €20 ea 2 Children €5 ea Total €50
Same cost to see a qualifier game as it was to see an actual championship game.
I hope we win on Saturday, but I won't be going !
Low attendance at these games and the GAA are trying to balance the coffers by hitting families
StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 13/07/2016 11:09:55
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when will kids really want to pay to attend as they will be used to getting in for free.
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it the parents who pay not the kids
ormond
Prices being reduced doesn't mean people are more likely to go it all depends on a very large variety of things,
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yes but price is a contributory factor
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Price isn't really the reason attendances have dropped. For a lot of people they still don't have discretionary income as they did in past or are being more picky with their discretionary income and matches are not what drives them - yes hence they are more likely to go to a game if its cheaper
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question for you - if a game is €20 - are you more/less/the same as likely to go if that same game was €10 or €15 --
sure they reduce the pries for a few games next season and see how it goesIt is the parents but you cant simply expect that all kids should be for free. The money that kids pay for tickets in most cases is very very good value and that money is reinvested into the organisation and helps pay for so much within the organisation. If you take that revenue away it means prices elsewhere will go up and then you will be complaining about that?
The GAA needs a lot of revenue to keep it going. Where do you propose to replace the 000s of euro that would be lost if all kids get in for free?
Its irrelevant the price of a ticket as you cant just count the price of a ticket as reason for someone to attend you have food, drink, travel etc etc that also must come into the equation
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Replying To StirringIt: "Went to two games in Clones. The semi and the replay.
2 Adults €25 ea and 2 children free Total €50
Qualifier game 2 Adults €20 ea 2 Children €5 ea Total €50
Same cost to see a qualifier game as it was to see an actual championship game.
I hope we win on Saturday, but I won't be going !
Low attendance at these games and the GAA are trying to balance the coffers by hitting families" A qualifier game is still an "actual championship game" btw. Qualifier games are straight knock out and in many regards more important than the provincial championships as you can lose in your province and have another day out but lose in qualifiers you are finished until next year so ticket prices should be as high as most provincial championship games
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Fully Reserved Eastern Stand:
Adult: €25.00/£20.00
Concession (Senior Citizen available Only)*: €18.00/£15.00
Juvenile (Under 16 Years of Age): €5.00/£5.00
Above Ticket prices for the Ulster Final 2016
Below is the admission to a qualifier game
GAA Football All Ireland Senior Championship
Qualifier Round 3A
Cavan v Derry
Throw in: 15:30pm
Ticket Information:
General Admission:
Adult: €20.00/£16.00
Juvenile (Under 16 Years of Age): €5.00/£5.00
Concession (Student/OAP): €10.00 rebate available on full-priced ADULT tickets at designated stiles on match day with valid ID PRIOR to entry
StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 13/07/2016 11:27:04
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "A qualifier game is still an "actual championship game" btw. Qualifier games are straight knock out and in many regards more important than the provincial championships as you can lose in your province and have another day out but lose in qualifiers you are finished until next year so ticket prices should be as high as most provincial championship games" Get a grip man !
Most are poor one sided games.
Cavan v Carlow last week was abysmal. It lacked atmosphere and effort.
The only surprise over the weekend was Longford who beat a tired looking Monaghan side.
StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts: 374 - 13/07/2016 11:34:20
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is the parents but you cant simply expect that all kids should be for free. The money that kids pay for tickets in most cases is very very good value and that money is reinvested into the organisation and helps pay for so much within the organisation. If you take that revenue away it means prices elsewhere will go up and then you will be complaining about that?
Not necessarily - if its is cheaper to bring your kids more adults are likely to do and this in turn would replace the lost revenue.
The GAA needs a lot of revenue to keep it going. Where do you propose to replace the 000s of euro that would be lost if all kids get in for free?
It would be replaced as follows
- more adult would go to games it they could bring their kids for free , thus also mroe programme and ancilliary sales etc
-more kids going means they are more likely tosupport and play the game thus more jersey sales, equipment sales, club memberships
those kids who are brought to games as kids are more likely to put money into the organisation when they grow up due to club memberships and paying adult prices
Its irrelevant the price of a ticket as you cant just count the price of a ticket as reason for someone to attend you have food, drink, travel etc etc that also must come into the equation -
How is the ticket price irrelevant and food drink travel is relevant-of course its relevant
If the match ticket is more expensive on top of food travel dring it is most likely that people wont go
two questions for you -please answer - others can also answer if they wish
-if a game costs €10 to go into rather than €20 - are you more or less likely to go
- if a games costs €20 but to bring your kids costs another €10 - are you more or less likely to bring the kids
Look you can believe what you want the present pricing structure is not helping and attendances are drastically down Maybe you could advise as to how you would replace the lost revenue and more importantly reduced interest and player numbers that will result from falling attendances. How would you replace falling attendances
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "A qualifier game is still an "actual championship game" btw. Qualifier games are straight knock out and in many regards more important than the provincial championships as you can lose in your province and have another day out but lose in qualifiers you are finished until next year so ticket prices should be as high as most provincial championship games"
while i would view a qualifier as being important - lots of others e.g. fans who dont go and even some players who go to america after provincial championships even media coverage drop - --- this is the reality and prices must reflect this - otherwise people will continue not to go
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 13/07/2016 11:45:54
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Get a grip man !
Most are poor one sided games.
Cavan v Carlow last week was abysmal. It lacked atmosphere and effort.
The only surprise over the weekend was Longford who beat a tired looking Monaghan side.
StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts:257 - 13/07/2016 11:34:20 Get a grip about what exactly?
A qualifier game is still a proper championship game and lose and a county is out and finished for the year. Why wouldn't or shouldn't the prices be as high as a lot of provincial championship games?
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Get a grip man !
Most are poor one sided games.
Cavan v Carlow last week was abysmal. It lacked atmosphere and effort.
The only surprise over the weekend was Longford who beat a tired looking Monaghan side.
StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts:257 - 13/07/2016 11:34:20 Get a grip about what exactly?
A qualifier game is still a proper championship game and lose and a county is out and finished for the year. Why wouldn't or shouldn't the prices be as high as a lot of provincial championship games?
That a lot of games are one sided has no relevance on the price
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Ormo its basic economics. If your product is considered to be a good commodity then people wont purchase it for an exorbitant price. If however you lower your price people may decide it is worth purchasing. It's about reaching market equilibrium, something the gaa has not been capable of doing with the qualifiers pricing structure.
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Ormo its basic economics. If your product is considered to be a good commodity then people wont purchase it for an exorbitant price. If however you lower your price people may decide it is worth purchasing. It's about reaching market equilibrium, something the gaa has not been capable of doing with the qualifiers pricing structure.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:3151 - 13/07/2016 13:27:27 Its not as simple as that and you can drop the name calling
You have a slight point but you need to make a decent return and dropping ticket prices considerably wont make a viable return.
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "Ormo its basic economics. If your product is considered to be a good commodity then people wont purchase it for an exorbitant price. If however you lower your price people may decide it is worth purchasing. It's about reaching market equilibrium, something the gaa has not been capable of doing with the qualifiers pricing structure.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:3151 - 13/07/2016 13:27:27 Its not as simple as that and you can drop the name calling
You have a slight point but you need to make a decent return and dropping ticket prices considerably wont make a viable return." Im not calling you names.
How is it not as simple as i have made it out to be? The GAA are selling a product (the qualifiers) that the general public deems to be an inferior product. Surely in an attempt to increase sales of the product they should reduce the price. It's easier to hold on to a customer once you have got them to purchase initially.
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Im not calling you names.
How is it not as simple as i have made it out to be? The GAA are selling a product (the qualifiers) that the general public deems to be an inferior product. Surely in an attempt to increase sales of the product they should reduce the price. It's easier to hold on to a customer once you have got them to purchase initially.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:3152 - 13/07/2016 14:02:20call me ormondbannerman or Ormond then
You have to look at things overall. You don't drop lots of prices as then your return is affected. You put in plans for tickets you boost what you get in addition to a ticket. You incentivise sales through other means
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "Im not calling you names.
How is it not as simple as i have made it out to be? The GAA are selling a product (the qualifiers) that the general public deems to be an inferior product. Surely in an attempt to increase sales of the product they should reduce the price. It's easier to hold on to a customer once you have got them to purchase initially.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:3152 - 13/07/2016 14:02:20call me ormondbannerman or Ormond then
You have to look at things overall. You don't drop lots of prices as then your return is affected. You put in plans for tickets you boost what you get in addition to a ticket. You incentivise sales through other means" So please tell me what some of these incentives could be? Discount rates to other games? A free meal? The thing is the GAAs revenue is being affected by the high prices of tickets for qualifier games. Reduce the price you can get more people through the gate but keep the same level of revenue. If these people have enjoyed the product that is on display they tell other individuals about the product and become ambassadors for it, this in turn can lead to more people wanting to purchase the product which then allows the GAA to increase the price of their product. At the minute they have made a mess of it.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 13/07/2016 14:29:43
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "Im not calling you names.
How is it not as simple as i have made it out to be? The GAA are selling a product (the qualifiers) that the general public deems to be an inferior product. Surely in an attempt to increase sales of the product they should reduce the price. It's easier to hold on to a customer once you have got them to purchase initially.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts:3152 - 13/07/2016 14:02:20call me ormondbannerman or Ormond then
You have to look at things overall. You don't drop lots of prices as then your return is affected. You put in plans for tickets you boost what you get in addition to a ticket. You incentivise sales through other means" call me ormondbannerman or Ormond then
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CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 13/07/2016 14:39:18
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Replying To ormondbannerman: "Get a grip man !
Most are poor one sided games.
Cavan v Carlow last week was abysmal. It lacked atmosphere and effort.
The only surprise over the weekend was Longford who beat a tired looking Monaghan side.
StirringIt (Cavan) - Posts:257 - 13/07/2016 11:34:20 Get a grip about what exactly?
A qualifier game is still a proper championship game and lose and a county is out and finished for the year. Why wouldn't or shouldn't the prices be as high as a lot of provincial championship games?" It's not the championship. Its called the "Qualifiers" for a reason.
The teams have been knocked out of the "Championship" and the "Qualifiers" are a means of "Qualifying" for the All Ireland Championship.
It's a second rate competition that gives extra games to counties, and in some case , prolongs the suffering !!
In the case of our own county, the ambition this year was to try to win Ulster.
It didn't happen. We have not the quality to win the All Ireland and so we go through a series of games until , if we are lucky, reach the quarter finals.
The provincial winners generally win, unless there is a big shock.
Meanwhile the club scene is held to ransom. There hasn't been a first team game at club level in Cavan since early June while we wait for this protracted series to end.
The majority are being held to ransom by the minority.
So back to the issue of CASH.
There is €5 in the difference for a stand ticket for the Ulster Final ( 2 games) on Sunday and a Qualifier ( stand alone) fixture on Saturday.
The qualifiers are seen by many, and as you can guess, i'm one, as a second rate competition. It does not appeal to me and from the attendance at games, i'm not alone in that view.
Semi final v Tyrone, 19,000 Qualifier v Carlow a few thousand !!
I'm not paying €20 to watch a poor game in a sub standard competition, when €25 will let me see a hard fought provincial final !!!
If it were a lower price, I'd go to have a look . There are 4 of us so a sub standard competition game would cost €50 for 2 Adults + 2 children, plus food, programme and petrol.
If the prices were lower and kids free, more would attend and there Might be an atmosphere !!
I've see more atmosphere at a club junior b match than some of the qualifiers
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