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Laois fans still on boycott?

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Replying To Andy:  "As one of the few Laois people who were at the game I have to say there was a much bigger crowd than I expected. That is thanks to a big travelling support for Armagh who I have to say did their county proud. After coming from a low ebb same as us they travelled down in droves and really got behind the team.

If we were on boycott could you really blame us though? Game scheduled at the exact same time as probably Irelands biggest game in 14 years. Wouldnt happen if Dublin were playing!"
You want the gaa to accommodate soccer , why not other way round

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 20/06/2016 18:54:26    1869853

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http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/laois-in-danger-of-championship-elimination-over-subs-used-v-armagh-740898.html

confirmed they did use 7 subs and could be in trouble
also mcgeeney spotted it at the time it appears

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 20/06/2016 19:05:33    1869855

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/laois-in-danger-of-championship-elimination-over-subs-used-v-armagh-740898.html

confirmed they did use 7 subs and could be in trouble
also mcgeeney spotted it at the time it appears"
Blood subs do not count

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 20/06/2016 19:19:21    1869863

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "Blood subs do not count"
The article states that none of the subs were blood subs.

Are you sure a blood sub allows extra subs? If this is the case it would suit to use this loophole.

Armaghball (Armagh) - Posts: 96 - 20/06/2016 19:33:46    1869870

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Replying To Armaghball:  "The article states that none of the subs were blood subs.

Are you sure a blood sub allows extra subs? If this is the case it would suit to use this loophole."
Ref must signal blood sub but am only going by another source that one of those subs where in fact a blood sub . Though if blood sub not used there in trouble

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 20/06/2016 19:39:15    1869874

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Replying To Armaghball:  "The article states that none of the subs were blood subs.

Are you sure a blood sub allows extra subs? If this is the case it would suit to use this loophole."
If you use blood sub and if player with blood comes back on the player that replaced him must be player to come off .Though if player does not come back on that had blood the player that replaced him can stay on the whole game and blood subs are not used as normal subs

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 20/06/2016 19:42:14    1869877

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LaoIs asked match official could the make the last change and it was confirmed it was okay as they had one down as a blood sub.

It doesn't feature in the match report so they will be okay .
Armagh would be petty if they asked for action to be taken.

BigJohn.6_8 (Galway) - Posts: 704 - 20/06/2016 19:51:00    1869882

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Replying To BigJohn.6_8:  "LaoIs asked match official could the make the last change and it was confirmed it was okay as they had one down as a blood sub.

It doesn't feature in the match report so they will be okay .
Armagh would be petty if they asked for action to be taken."
Gaelic Life report it was the CCCC that brought the matter up and not Armagh.

Armaghball (Armagh) - Posts: 96 - 20/06/2016 22:42:30    1869959

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "You want the gaa to accommodate soccer , why not other way round"
It's the European championships. The schedule was in place upwards of a year in advance. When Ireland were drawn to that group everyone knew who, when and where they were going to be playing.

There's 100s of millions of Euros of TV money going to UEFA for the rights to show the competition.

You're right though the GAA should have rang UEFA, I think it'd have gone something like this.

"Hi is Mr. Platini there? Oh, when did that happen? Can you put me on to whoever's in charge now please. Bonjour, parlez-vous Irlandais? Non, Anglais? Oh great. I'm very sorry to trouble you but you know we've got this game over here that we play called Gaelic football. Really, you should look it up its a great game. Well we're planning on having a first round match between the 15th and 16th best teams in the country on at the same time as you've the Ireland team down to play their second fixture. Well yes they did do very well but I'm actually talking about the real Ireland team, they play Belgium next Saturday. Would you do us a favour and maybe rearrange that for us. Our fixture? Well we fixed that just over a week ago. No there isn't any pressing reason for us to fix it at this time. Basically we just like making a point of not bowing to the plans made by the organisers of major sporting events that our patrons have the audacity to show an interest in. Hello... hello..."

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4248 - 20/06/2016 23:11:35    1869978

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Replying To Whammo86:  "It's the European championships. The schedule was in place upwards of a year in advance. When Ireland were drawn to that group everyone knew who, when and where they were going to be playing.

There's 100s of millions of Euros of TV money going to UEFA for the rights to show the competition.

You're right though the GAA should have rang UEFA, I think it'd have gone something like this.

"Hi is Mr. Platini there? Oh, when did that happen? Can you put me on to whoever's in charge now please. Bonjour, parlez-vous Irlandais? Non, Anglais? Oh great. I'm very sorry to trouble you but you know we've got this game over here that we play called Gaelic football. Really, you should look it up its a great game. Well we're planning on having a first round match between the 15th and 16th best teams in the country on at the same time as you've the Ireland team down to play their second fixture. Well yes they did do very well but I'm actually talking about the real Ireland team, they play Belgium next Saturday. Would you do us a favour and maybe rearrange that for us. Our fixture? Well we fixed that just over a week ago. No there isn't any pressing reason for us to fix it at this time. Basically we just like making a point of not bowing to the plans made by the organisers of major sporting events that our patrons have the audacity to show an interest in. Hello... hello...""
Oh the irony so you want our national sport changed around to suit a foreign game .if you want to watch euros go ahead this is our country we decide when to play our game not UEFA our you

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/06/2016 01:58:29    1870002

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Whammo - funny thing is platini is reported to have spent time in dublin learning english ateended some gaa matches and was very impressed

delboypolecat - i understand your point but the GAA need to schedule its games in order to maximise attendances - the players deserve it e.g. laois v armagh -it did affect the attendance

Tomorrow night you will have Leinster JFC final Louth v Wexford, and Leinster U21HC semi-final
Carlow v Offaly, on at same time. The crowds will be affected. Rugby has been guilty of it too e.g. full round of all ireland league games on at 2.30pm with world cup final on same day at 4pm. Could bore you with some more rugby examples.

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 21/06/2016 10:06:29    1870034

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "Oh the irony so you want our national sport changed around to suit a foreign game .if you want to watch euros go ahead this is our country we decide when to play our game not UEFA our you"
Dell,i understand what your saying,but there is a massive crossover of GAA and soccer fans.Why not fix this game for 5pm?Give people a good bit of time to get to game after the Ireland v Belgium game.Why fix the game when our football team are playing a very important game in a massive tournament?After Laois being shafted having to play Dublin in Kilkenny i think their supporters have even more reason to be disillusioned with this decision.I cannot remember off hand,but i do recall GAA games being fixed around big rugby and soccer games in the past.It was a poor time to fix the Laois v Armagh game.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 21/06/2016 10:07:09    1870035

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "Oh the irony so you want our national sport changed around to suit a foreign game .if you want to watch euros go ahead this is our country we decide when to play our game not UEFA our you"
You asked why doesn't soccer change their schedule. I just pointed out how ridiculous that statement was.

I think the GAA of it had a bit of sense would not arrange a game for the same time as Ireland are playing in the EUROs. There just isn't any need to do so. The game could've been played an hour later and everybody is happy.

The EURO fixture was set in stone, the GAA fixture was subsequently decided at the same time. It didn't benefit the GAA to fix it for then, so why did they do it. It's just nonsensical!

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4248 - 21/06/2016 12:44:53    1870149

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i was at the game - watched the fist half of the Euro in a pub on the corner about 10mins walk to the ground..... the pub was 98% full of armagh people.
the attendance was roughly 1,500 of which 1,400 were from armagh ... maybe even 1,450 from armagh. There was literally no one there from the O'Moore county.....
Was it the GAA's fault ( yes)
Was it RTe fault yes - there's no doubt that Armagh would have pulled 6-7,000, only for the Euros especially from Lurgan area which is a big soccer town...

But this has happened before and will happen again...... common sense should prevail.....

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 21/06/2016 13:07:00    1870165

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Replying To Whammo86:  "You asked why doesn't soccer change their schedule. I just pointed out how ridiculous that statement was.

I think the GAA of it had a bit of sense would not arrange a game for the same time as Ireland are playing in the EUROs. There just isn't any need to do so. The game could've been played an hour later and everybody is happy.

The EURO fixture was set in stone, the GAA fixture was subsequently decided at the same time. It didn't benefit the GAA to fix it for then, so why did they do it. It's just nonsensical!"
The gaa have a master planner and everyone knows when games are on during the year and should not change for a foreign sport and most of the Irish team are born in England not northern Ireland our republic so it is England b team .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/06/2016 13:46:04    1870197

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Replying To Whammo86:  "You asked why doesn't soccer change their schedule. I just pointed out how ridiculous that statement was.

I think the GAA of it had a bit of sense would not arrange a game for the same time as Ireland are playing in the EUROs. There just isn't any need to do so. The game could've been played an hour later and everybody is happy.

The EURO fixture was set in stone, the GAA fixture was subsequently decided at the same time. It didn't benefit the GAA to fix it for then, so why did they do it. It's just nonsensical!"
For the record why should they gaa change the time of game sure the gaa fixture list is set in stone so your statement is debating with your own words .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/06/2016 13:48:59    1870202

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "For the record why should they gaa change the time of game sure the gaa fixture list is set in stone so your statement is debating with your own words ."
The master planner only specifies the weekend that the round will be played.

The fixture doesn't get scheduled until after the draw is made. It usually takes a day or 2 and then the time is announced.

They could easily have fixed it for any of the other suitable times that were available at the weekend.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4248 - 21/06/2016 14:48:58    1870253

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "The gaa have a master planner and everyone knows when games are on during the year and should not change for a foreign sport and most of the Irish team are born in England not northern Ireland our republic so it is England b team ."
This entire post is factually incorrect.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4248 - 21/06/2016 14:54:51    1870258

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Replying To Whammo86:  "This entire post is factually incorrect."
Prove me wrong then

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 21/06/2016 15:03:00    1870265

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "Prove me wrong then"
Are you seriously saying that the times of championship matches are decided at the start of the season?

They are not, they are only decided after the draw has been made.

Are you also seriously saying that 11 or more of the Irish National football team are not Irish. Even giving the strict definition that to be Irish you need to be born in Ireland less than 12 people on the ROI panel were born outside the island of Ireland.

I try to engage with people when they have a differing opinion to mine. I'm often wrong and am happy for it to be pointed out.

The way this conversation has developed I think there's not really any point in continuing this discussion, unless you have something new to bring to the table.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4248 - 21/06/2016 15:47:59    1870307

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