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I wouldn't be surprised of a huge shock on Sunday. I think there is a good possibility at least of Meath giving the Dubs a serious rattle. Anytime Dublin are All Ireland champions and play Meath, Meath give them a serious test eg 1977, 1984 and 2012. And even beat them 1964 and 1996. We have been down this road before with Meath and Dublin. Meath were rank outsiders in 1986 and 1996 and they caused a massive shock in beating Dublin on both occassions. 1986 and 1996 were played in the rain, It seems Sunday is another day. Will 2016 be another royal revolution. I think it will be Meath, Meath to win by 5 .
Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 24/06/2016 13:35:00
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Replying To Tonny1975: "I wouldn't be surprised of a huge shock on Sunday. I think there is a good possibility at least of Meath giving the Dubs a serious rattle. Anytime Dublin are All Ireland champions and play Meath, Meath give them a serious test eg 1977, 1984 and 2012. And even beat them 1964 and 1996. We have been down this road before with Meath and Dublin. Meath were rank outsiders in 1986 and 1996 and they caused a massive shock in beating Dublin on both occassions. 1986 and 1996 were played in the rain, It seems Sunday is another day. Will 2016 be another royal revolution. I think it will be Meath, Meath to win by 5 ." wake up it was only a dream!!
superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 24/06/2016 14:17:19
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Replying To Tonny1975: "I wouldn't be surprised of a huge shock on Sunday. I think there is a good possibility at least of Meath giving the Dubs a serious rattle. Anytime Dublin are All Ireland champions and play Meath, Meath give them a serious test eg 1977, 1984 and 2012. And even beat them 1964 and 1996. We have been down this road before with Meath and Dublin. Meath were rank outsiders in 1986 and 1996 and they caused a massive shock in beating Dublin on both occassions. 1986 and 1996 were played in the rain, It seems Sunday is another day. Will 2016 be another royal revolution. I think it will be Meath, Meath to win by 5 ." Your head must still be in a spin from the shock of your own counties pitiful performance last weekend...
If you know anything at all in 1996 That was an ageing Dublin team who were at the end of the road and that was a coming Meath Team who won a u-21 or minor All-:Ireland in '92 that went on to win sam in 96 and 99.
2012 Dublin won by 3pts but were 10pts up at one stage that was game Meath never looked like winning.
This Dublin team is hardly ageing and this Meath are not winning sam any time soon.
Letting your Bias and your heart over rule your head on this one I think..
jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 24/06/2016 14:25:17
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Replying To waynoI: "tew bleedin ri brother.
Cant wait for Ih I cant..
Already been on to dealer try gerrus a few lines of snow for deh occasion n'all..
Me oul wun's buyin us a few cans'a dutchie yeeerrrrrrr
The canal wont knnnow wha hit on sunday afternoon.
Then I Cant wait to arrive in croker 10 minutes late to cheer on the boyiz in blewww against the culchie mucksavages..
Wheeeeeeloooooo... Wheeeeeeloooooooo
Boooooooo" Ha good one.
cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 24/06/2016 14:27:53
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How is he being biased he's from mayo ha..God forbid Dublin could actually be beaten. Your arrogance will be your downfall ;)
Royal15 (Meath) - Posts: 9 - 24/06/2016 14:34:03
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Replying To jacktheDub: "Your head must still be in a spin from the shock of your own counties pitiful performance last weekend...
If you know anything at all in 1996 That was an ageing Dublin team who were at the end of the road and that was a coming Meath Team who won a u-21 or minor All-:Ireland in '92 that went on to win sam in 96 and 99.
2012 Dublin won by 3pts but were 10pts up at one stage that was game Meath never looked like winning.
This Dublin team is hardly ageing and this Meath are not winning sam any time soon.
Letting your Bias and your heart over rule your head on this one I think.." I think if Meath are to challenge for sam in the next 5 years,we have to unearth some defenders in my view..
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/06/2016 14:43:49
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Replying To Tonny1975: "I wouldn't be surprised of a huge shock on Sunday. I think there is a good possibility at least of Meath giving the Dubs a serious rattle. Anytime Dublin are All Ireland champions and play Meath, Meath give them a serious test eg 1977, 1984 and 2012. And even beat them 1964 and 1996. We have been down this road before with Meath and Dublin. Meath were rank outsiders in 1986 and 1996 and they caused a massive shock in beating Dublin on both occassions. 1986 and 1996 were played in the rain, It seems Sunday is another day. Will 2016 be another royal revolution. I think it will be Meath, Meath to win by 5 ." To be honest I wasn't shocked by 96.In 95 Dublin won the All-Ireland.Yes they beat Meath by 10 points,but it was a late(and impressive) surge from Dublin.It wasn't a 10 point game.Meath won the National league in 94.They had some terrific young players coming through.A few of our ageing players got caught out in 95.We had some really good displays in the league in 95/96 too.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/06/2016 14:46:57
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One major flaw in the OP's theory, Meath had a good team then :D
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 24/06/2016 14:57:33
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That's is wrong. No one thought that Meath would win Leinster in 1996. Carlow were favourites to beat Meath in the frist round in 1996. Meath were big outsiders V Dublin in that Leinster Final 1996. Dublin hammered Meath by ten points in 1995 . Meath had an hugely inexperienced team with 7 U21s in 1996. It was one youngest teams ever to win All Ireland. In hindsight we can say Meath went on to win All Irelands in 96 and 99 . But I clearly remeber at the time Dublin were very confident that Meath had`nt chance in 96 No ones aw it coming, or 86 or 1964. In Trevor Giles doc on Tnag this year, Ciaran Whelan admitted that Dublin had thought Meath were for gone for few years after the hammering in 1995. He freely admitted it was shock, the victory in 96 . Why cannot u just admit it was a shock. Methinks deep The royals still rattle the Dubs. Meath have been doing this for generations, coming from nowhere complete outsiders and beating Dublin. Meath have the best record in the country V Dublin .
Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 24/06/2016 14:58:02
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Replying To Royal15: "How is he being biased he's from mayo ha..God forbid Dublin could actually be beaten. Your arrogance will be your downfall ;)" Wont be my Downfall this weekend anyway
jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 24/06/2016 15:02:28
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Replying To Tonny1975: "That's is wrong. No one thought that Meath would win Leinster in 1996. Carlow were favourites to beat Meath in the frist round in 1996. Meath were big outsiders V Dublin in that Leinster Final 1996. Dublin hammered Meath by ten points in 1995 . Meath had an hugely inexperienced team with 7 U21s in 1996. It was one youngest teams ever to win All Ireland. In hindsight we can say Meath went on to win All Irelands in 96 and 99 . But I clearly remeber at the time Dublin were very confident that Meath had`nt chance in 96 No ones aw it coming, or 86 or 1964. In Trevor Giles doc on Tnag this year, Ciaran Whelan admitted that Dublin had thought Meath were for gone for few years after the hammering in 1995. He freely admitted it was shock, the victory in 96 . Why cannot u just admit it was a shock. Methinks deep The royals still rattle the Dubs. Meath have been doing this for generations, coming from nowhere complete outsiders and beating Dublin. Meath have the best record in the country V Dublin ." Hon Tonny!
Great post.
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 24/06/2016 15:04:07
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They were great team when you look back now. But in July 1996 Darren Fay, Trevor Giles, Mark Reilly and Co were complete unknowns outside Meath. In July 1996 before they Dublin , they were outsiders, given very little hope. No one expected Meath to win All Ireland in 1996 , Carlow were favourite to beat them in the first round. These are all facts.
Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 24/06/2016 15:05:50
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Replying To cuederocket: "Hey Bert!" What's up Ernie?
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 24/06/2016 15:06:00
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As a passionate Meath supporter I always believed that whenever we played Dublin we could beat them. Even when Dublin were fancied we knew we could come to Croke Park and give them a serious rattle.
However, the days of playing off the cuff 15 vs 15 is gone. Dublin are systemically so fluid in their gameplan and relentless in their intensity that Meath just won't be able to deal with them. Meath will come with a gameplan but we won't be able to hold them off for long. The overlaps Dublin will create will take its toll. Once they dominate the middle third and set up that platform for attack we will find it very hard to halt their momentum.
Depending on whether Dublin take the foot off the pedal or not I can see us losing by 10-15 points. We are not equipped to dismantle this Dublin team.
RoyalClass (Meath) - Posts: 789 - 24/06/2016 15:06:14
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Replying To realdub: "One major flaw in the OP's theory, Meath had a good team then :D" Meath also experienced players like Martin O'Connell,Colm Coyle etc.They had a good mix.This Meath team have lost a lot of experience and lack that big time now.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/06/2016 15:14:28
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Replying To Tonny1975: "That's is wrong. No one thought that Meath would win Leinster in 1996. Carlow were favourites to beat Meath in the frist round in 1996. Meath were big outsiders V Dublin in that Leinster Final 1996. Dublin hammered Meath by ten points in 1995 . Meath had an hugely inexperienced team with 7 U21s in 1996. It was one youngest teams ever to win All Ireland. In hindsight we can say Meath went on to win All Irelands in 96 and 99 . But I clearly remeber at the time Dublin were very confident that Meath had`nt chance in 96 No ones aw it coming, or 86 or 1964. In Trevor Giles doc on Tnag this year, Ciaran Whelan admitted that Dublin had thought Meath were for gone for few years after the hammering in 1995. He freely admitted it was shock, the victory in 96 . Why cannot u just admit it was a shock. Methinks deep The royals still rattle the Dubs. Meath have been doing this for generations, coming from nowhere complete outsiders and beating Dublin. Meath have the best record in the country V Dublin ." Carlow were not favorites to beat Meath! lol!
Some people were saying that Carlow COULD shock Meath,but Meath wiped the floor with them.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 24/06/2016 15:15:30
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Replying To Tonny1975: "That's is wrong. No one thought that Meath would win Leinster in 1996. Carlow were favourites to beat Meath in the frist round in 1996. Meath were big outsiders V Dublin in that Leinster Final 1996. Dublin hammered Meath by ten points in 1995 . Meath had an hugely inexperienced team with 7 U21s in 1996. It was one youngest teams ever to win All Ireland. In hindsight we can say Meath went on to win All Irelands in 96 and 99 . But I clearly remeber at the time Dublin were very confident that Meath had`nt chance in 96 No ones aw it coming, or 86 or 1964. In Trevor Giles doc on Tnag this year, Ciaran Whelan admitted that Dublin had thought Meath were for gone for few years after the hammering in 1995. He freely admitted it was shock, the victory in 96 . Why cannot u just admit it was a shock. Methinks deep The royals still rattle the Dubs. Meath have been doing this for generations, coming from nowhere complete outsiders and beating Dublin. Meath have the best record in the country V Dublin ." The confidence Dublin had in '96 does not compare with next Sundays fixture. '95 was the only year we dished out a hiding to the royals. As for '86, Meath had been pushing us all the way from the early 70's. Some forget that the Dublin/Meath ties of the 70's were down to the wire. In '83 our Leinster Championship meeting went to a replay.
The first half of the 90's were close, the obvious '91 saga and the two years that followed. So there is NO comparison between those days and next Sunday, sorry.
realdub (Dublin) - Posts: 8596 - 24/06/2016 15:25:12
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Yes Meath had two experienced players, but they had 7 under 21. You don't win All Ireland football titles with U21s. Only three teams have done it Kerry team 1975, Meath 1996, Gawlay 1998. It takes an extraordinary group of Under 21 to win senior. Anyone who said Meath were going to All Ireland in 1996 in Spring 1996, would have been like someone saying Leicister City last September would win the premiership. Only three teams have come from nowhere to win All Ireland Dublin in 1974, Meath 1996 and Galway 1998.
Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 24/06/2016 15:25:15
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Theres is a a lot similarities. You might not what to hear it, which does display Dublin insecurities towards Meath, even though you have dominated Meath and the provience for the last ten years. Few things I would to state
1 Meath V Dublin rivalry did not begin in 1983 or the seventies it began in the 1940s.
2 For generations Meath footballers have come from know where/outsiders and beaten Dublin. Dublin are totally dominate in the provience and Meath the underdog beat them its being going for 70 years. It being going on a long time. In 1986 , Most people expected Laois to be Dublin main rivals in Leinster. They won the league in 1986 and hammered Meath in 1985 in Leinster. Boylan was nearly got rid of in winter 85. Dublin were just as dominant as they are now. If you said in spring 1986 that Meath would play in 5 of the next 6 All Irelands. You would have been laughed ridiculed.
I'm going write a History of Meath Dublin because people just think it started in 83. Meath V Dublin rivalry keeps repeating itself over and over again, Dublin dominate , Meath underdog beat Dublin. Meath grow in confidence and win Leinster and All Irelands and Dulbin cannot beat them.
I will say it again I expect win Meath to win sunday. If not this year ,they will never year, it not question of if Meath will beat Dublin, its a question of when Meath will beat Dublin.
Prediction: Meath to give Dublin almighty fright, and yes Meath to beat Dublin on sunday by 5 .
Tonny1975 (Mayo) - Posts: 114 - 24/06/2016 15:59:43
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Replying To Tonny1975: "Yes Meath had two experienced players, but they had 7 under 21. You don't win All Ireland football titles with U21s. Only three teams have done it Kerry team 1975, Meath 1996, Gawlay 1998. It takes an extraordinary group of Under 21 to win senior. Anyone who said Meath were going to All Ireland in 1996 in Spring 1996, would have been like someone saying Leicister City last September would win the premiership. Only three teams have come from nowhere to win All Ireland Dublin in 1974, Meath 1996 and Galway 1998." Hon the Tonny!
bert09 (Meath) - Posts: 1792 - 24/06/2016 16:08:01
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