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Replying To jimbodub:  "To Dell

http://www.punditarena.com/gaa/adrumm/revealed-the-shocking-amount-spent-by-each-county-board-preparing-inter-county-teams-last-year/

... See what Cork spent in 2015.... only a small amount less than Dublin

What did they win again Dell??

Time for you to re-evaluate your current logic a wee bit...

Spending big money doesn't guarantee success.. as per Cork 2015

Having gifted, skilful and ultimately dedicated players/management DOES THOUGH...

And that's exactly what we have..."
The accounts not adding up jimbo look for Dublin county board end off year accounts as these figures are wrong because Tyrone gaa are also lower in those figures rather than the real figures .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 18/06/2016 01:49:48    1868391

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Completely understand where you are coming from AthCliath, I was hoping Blame Dublin would attract casual posters to give an assessment on the chasing pack. Not Dublin. But my thinking has backfired and it is indeed "Blame Dublin".

My own view is the chasing pack are becoming excuse merchants. I'm thinking Dublin will fall short this year. Without Rory and Jack things will be hard.

Why are the chasing pack so reluctant to say it as it is.......The Dubs are short this year!

Not unbeatable

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 18/06/2016 01:59:10    1868392

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I understand JP,
But nature of this outdated championship means that it's impossible to analyse how good the chasing teams are until quarter finals onwards. Mainly because we have no concrete evidence or nothing to go on as to how strong the teams closest to Dublin are this year.
We can see improvements in teams who got promoted this year and analyse them, But really we know nothing of Mayo or Kerry for example.
Dublin have won the league again and are unbeaten (bar OBC) since Feb 2015 I think. So everyone will focus on us.
Paper never refuses ink , so it's easier for them to focus on Dublin advantages.
Which to be honest if I wasn't from Dublin and didn't see the huge work being done on the ground ,I would probably feel the same. Although we do have big advantages over weaker counties, but has it really ever been any different,
JMG to be fair writes about how to beat Dublin , which at least is refreshing.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 18/06/2016 09:55:35    1868412

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Replying To JayP:  "Completely understand where you are coming from AthCliath, I was hoping Blame Dublin would attract casual posters to give an assessment on the chasing pack. Not Dublin. But my thinking has backfired and it is indeed "Blame Dublin".

My own view is the chasing pack are becoming excuse merchants. I'm thinking Dublin will fall short this year. Without Rory and Jack things will be hard.

Why are the chasing pack so reluctant to say it as it is.......The Dubs are short this year!

Not unbeatable"
'Dubs are short' this is hogwash everyone knows that all the main contenders most notably Mayo and Tyrone have weaknesses in their XV and benches the Blue Juggernaut have 15 superstars and a really strong bench for any underperforming or injured players.

I know the 2 lads who left but Mansion and O'Gara are back which highlights the extent of the depth which always will run over any obstacle over 70 minutes as nobody else can dream of having near the same level of quality in their panel of 26.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 18/06/2016 11:47:30    1868438

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Dublin are short ? That's a statement that should be backed up with facts , on the other hand Dublin look vulnerable in the positions mentioned well I wouldn't disagree , the jury is out we haven't been exposed yet and may not be either , there is a suspicion under a high ball without Rory we are weak . Someone has to do it , and even if they do then they still have to stop us up the other end.

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 18/06/2016 11:57:31    1868440

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Replying To Damothedub:  "Dublin are short ? That's a statement that should be backed up with facts , on the other hand Dublin look vulnerable in the positions mentioned well I wouldn't disagree , the jury is out we haven't been exposed yet and may not be either , there is a suspicion under a high ball without Rory we are weak . Someone has to do it , and even if they do then they still have to stop us up the other end."
But in order to 'expose' this so-called weakness you have to commit bodies forward to prevent the full forward being isolated and playing man on man against the Dublin forwards is football hari-kari.

So firstly we don't even know if there is a weakness there and secondly even if there is in order to expose it you are guaranteed to conceed a lorry load of scores at the other end.

Pick your poison

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 18/06/2016 12:24:33    1868444

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Damo to back up that statement, Dublin are without the footballer of the year and argubly the best full back in the country. Donie Kingston caused Dublin havoc in the 2nd half against Laois. Mick Fitz cant play full back. Philly is too good a ball player to be playing full back. Plus hes not a natural full back. While we have a great squad we are short in a vital position.......

JayP (Dublin) - Posts: 1772 - 18/06/2016 13:17:36    1868455

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The title of the thread does not make sense.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 18/06/2016 15:01:18    1868467

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Replying To JayP:  "Damo to back up that statement, Dublin are without the footballer of the year and argubly the best full back in the country. Donie Kingston caused Dublin havoc in the 2nd half against Laois. Mick Fitz cant play full back. Philly is too good a ball player to be playing full back. Plus hes not a natural full back. While we have a great squad we are short in a vital position......."
I agree , all I'm trying to do is point out the difference between a suspicion and a fact .
There is and I'm not alone in pointing out a suspicion we do look vulnerable , but as we keep winning the vulnerability gets a little glossed over.
Equally to date there isn't concrete evidence that says we should be shi77ing ourselves , and as mentioned if you bombard Dublin it probably means you've committed players which Dublin will be grateful for.
A lot is said re a ROC missing , I think there was an understanding between himself n SC that is often over looked , Steven looks liked he'd fully commit off his line with ROC in the vicinity.

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 18/06/2016 17:04:15    1868491

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One of the most enjoyable things about being at the top is the mud the sling at you, enjoy it all Dublin fans, it doesn't last forever. All the great teams have had it, Tyrone, Armagh, Meath, Kerry in regard to a soft Munster.

Its the way, until your knocked of the top spot.

Personally i enjoy the hurt of other counties.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/06/2016 21:06:35    1868577

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