Don't take the bait Ormondebanner is a well known WUM on this forum.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 15/06/2016 00:26:53    1866991

FFS stop the yapping and crying. Everyone expected Cork to horse Tipp but it didn't happen. So what! Revisionist moaning and complaining about "too many Ulster" games won't change it. A distinct whiff of partitionism hanging around again. No change there then.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 15/06/2016 01:03:54    1866996

alano eh have you seen the attendances at these games?..the number of people that play womens rugby compared to other womens sports? and the attendances these other women sports receive..along with viewing figures

Yes i have -according to these according to these womens rugby had the following figures
average 160k for irel v france in 2016
http://www.sportswomen.ie/significant-numbers-watch-womens-rugby/

http://sportforbusiness.com/tg4-steps-up-for-taylor/
500,000 for womens world cup semi (dont know if peak or average)

tweets from the rtepress twitter account- they are average figures - while i am sure you will question the integrity of the figures - i would assume the figure were got from the independent tam ratings and would also assume that there would be reprecussions if inaccurate viewing figures were given - you can google these for your own verification 

1. RTÉ Press Office ‏@RTEPress  24 Feb 2014
Saturday's coverage of England Women v Ireland Women on @rte Two attracted an average of 291,900 viewers with a share of 18%. #rterugby

RTÉ Press Office‏@RTEPress - March 2013 
An average of 160,000 viewers watched @irfurugby Women's team Grand Slam #6Nations win live on RTE Two on Sunday #rterugby
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:363 - 02/04/2015 09:36:39   

While i understand womens gaa gets much better figure - in your view do these figures suggest that people are interested in watching womens rugby? Bear in mind you will have 4 camogies games on rte this year compared to zero rugby. Maybe RTE could show both GAA Soccer and rugby

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 15/06/2016 10:55:21    1867078

tv3 clearly have a lot more money than in the past and appeared to spend most of their budget on that..
have you a link to back this up--they also have no gaa to cover which you have to consider... id imagine the rights for the six nations and world cup is a lot more expensive than the gaa rights but of course u choose to ignore this

surely then tv3 could afford to outbid rte for championship then , maybe if rte was so anti gaa they would ditch the gaa and show more rugby

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 15/06/2016 11:08:07    1867085

Alano - Eh have u seen up for the match?...yes ihave -do they show a rugby equivalent
..you speak as if gaa doesnt warrant the coverage?..
Please forward me detail of they post where i insinuated that .....keep looking...but you wont find such post..hey i love gaa too..the more they show the happier i become

why is there such negativity from rte?..dont know -do RTE ever show Gaa in a positive light, every great gaa moment i have ever seen from kevin morans run to fentons goal to ciarans point to maurice fitzgerald to dj shefflin cluxtons free to joe cannings goal have been shown and correctly euoligised on rte, Did you watch any of the documentaries to which i refer do you ever listen to rte radio coverage, rte radio na gaeltacha coverage - is any of this ever positive

Im not saying they dont ever do wrong by gaa but they do plenty right as well

RE Boxing - i think rtes boxing pundits are there best pundits by a mile to show

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 15/06/2016 11:16:01    1867092

It is not just RTE who don't support GAA. Most radio stations do not have any GAA in their "bulletins". Soccer and Rugby get covered much more.
How to stop this? Well the GAA needs to emphasis that they are the "world leaders" in GAA?! That Croke park is the World wide HQ, not European or Commonwealth like Rugby and Football.
Finally they need to use the Irish language a bit more on the Sunday Game in my opinion. Slán

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2520 - 15/06/2016 11:23:35    1867100

While I agree that the RTE coverage was poor the question that has to be asked is where were the supporters? Just over 3 thousand attended a Munster senior semi.Very poor.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 15/06/2016 11:54:58    1867118

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 15/06/2016 19:37:30    1867373

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 15/06/2016 19:39:18    1867374

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 15/06/2016 20:47:12    1867413

Agree the night time show is awful. Hardly ever watch it anymore.
Another thing, does it annoy anyone else that we only see about 20% of kickouts shown on the live games? I know a lot go short anyway but they are so busy showing replays of how the ball went dead by the time it's back live one team already has possession. They show replays of a 21 yard free!

In the Monaghan Down game, Monaghan pushed up on Downs kickout and forced a kick to mid-field the entire 2nd half and we didn't get to see any of them. On another occasion , Down worked the ball all the way into Monaghans 45 while we were still watching random people in the crowd!

white.n.blue (Monaghan) - Posts: 249 - 15/06/2016 22:11:23    1867451

Alano
if the women figures for football or camogie are much higher then why was rugby been given such undeserved coverage if there was no bias?.
womens football is well covered on tg4, camogie is shown by rte, this year 4 camogie games will be on rte compared to one womens rugby. -the viewing figures for womens rugby suggest coverage is deserved If people dont like it they can choose not to watch it

simply isnt enough interest there to show it over other sports...
well the viewing figures would suggest otherwide

.what other broadcaster shows womens and u20s along with the six nations package?..pretty sure bbc/itv dont?
under 20s games show on -sky (england) s4c and bbc red button (wales) , games shown in france too -no idea re scots and italy
Womens - bbc red button (england) s4c (wales-sometimes online) , France - (france 4 - get big crowds there)
s4c show club rugby and schools rugby finals and under 18 internationals
sky and tg4 show under 20s world cup every year and womens world cup

RTE today showed a repeat of the toughest trade - its available on rte player - in your view did this show gaa in positive or negative light
whereas at the same time tg4 had italy v scotland under 20s rugby,

Have rte in your view ever once showed gaa in a positive light

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 15/06/2016 23:45:32    1867474

alano
, Did you watch any of the documentaries to which i refer do you ever listen to rte radio coverage, rte radio na gaeltacha coverage - is any of this ever positive

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 15/06/2016 23:46:14    1867475

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 16/06/2016 05:38:44    1867492

alano12 (Dublin) - Posts: 2208 - 16/06/2016 05:40:23    1867493

Sunday Game coverage has been poor over the last 2-3 years

Games that are not televised should have at least a good coverage of scores and action.

It appears the games on TV that afternoon get extended highlights.

I have noticed reports don't carry the scoreboard so there is never a real reflection of the game.

Last weekend was an excellent example with Tipp v Cork and Meath v Louth especially

Royalio11 (Meath) - Posts: 757 - 16/06/2016 08:17:00    1867501

Alano - why are you dealing in over the top questions?.. --which over the top questionsare theres
of course it has been portrayed positively over the years just a lot of the coverage is negative especially on tv..do you dispute this yes or no?. I would say the have covered both negative and positive events and cover the positive ones more frequently as there are more positive events occurring.
..i agree with you that the radio coverage is much better done and a lot more positive..
--this contradicts your earlier post stating
simply 0 interest or appetite in rte to provide proper coverage and effort
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:94 - 12/06/2016 23:10:45   186

you seem to find it very difficult accepting that people are right to have grievances over the coverage they provide for the national games
i dont but i do have difficulty as to why people air their grievances by attacking other sports.
e.g. mediaman going back to events of 1914,scepticals name calling, unfounded allegations of elitism, even your reference to munster attendances (i mean gaa attendances never go down when a team is not winning)

how do the viewing figures show it if they receive less viewing figures then what other sports get?...look at the attendances for their games..simply isnt enough interest there for it to be given the coverage it gets compared to other sports
The viewing figures above suggest there is an interest, if people were not interested they would not watch
so none of the games are shown on the primary channel in britain?.
BBC is a primary channel - they are shown on primary channel in france -you are only talking about 1 game at max 2 - hardly blanket coverage

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 16/06/2016 10:12:01    1867542

low attendances and lack of interest gets great coverage over other more popular womens sports?.odd

there is more camogie and ladies football shown on tv than womens rugby is there not?

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 16/06/2016 10:24:11    1867559

eh have you seen the attendances at these games?..the number of people that play womens rugby compared to other womens sports? and the attendances these other women sports receive..along with viewing figures
Eh have u seen up for the match?...its terrible..the sunday game is very poor with 0 research or proper effort put into it..the league is not shown by rte despite big interest..look at how tipp were given no coverage...all rte show and analyse for any length of time on the highlights programme is what they have already shown..you speak as if gaa doesnt warrant the coverage?..its the biggest sport..im saying the coverage should be a lot better than it is and better treated..why is there such negativity from rte?..why would club brawls be shown on the late late show?.look at other examples people have listed..explain this?
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:94 - 14/06/2016 23:40:40 Attendances only partially determine if an event will be covered. TV viewers plays as much of a role. Up for the match may in your opinion be terrible but it gets plenty of viewers when its on. Its strange. You criticise everything that RTE do saying its not good enough yet you want them to show more GAA? Is that not a slight bit strange?
How much do you specifically want RTE to show every week in hurling and gaelic etc?
Club brawls get shown on late late as its a cultural issue and late late is a major place for debate in this state. Major rugby brawls would be discussed from club games etc if there was relevant footage but when club games are so rarely televised compared to club GAA games then you wont see coverage of them

The issue with rugby now is rte simply cant compete with the other broadcasters for rights in rugby anymore so im not sure it has a future on the channel as the two obvious things which deserve big coverage are the 6 nations and the world cup both of which rte will soon not have...not sure what else warrants coverage bar highlights of these as Sky and BT have all the club stuff and tests bought up
Gaa should be covered both league and championship and possibly club. If rte are going to show womens rugby then womens soccer and camogie and football should be shown as they are both more popular
For soccer rte should continue to show as much of the national side as they are able to..club game possibly once it draws viewing figures..soccer republic could be improved but overall rte are good soccer wise
Then you have sports like boxing and others which deserve coverage in their own little pockets just not on the level of the others barring the Olympics alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:94 - 14/06/2016 23:40:40 Yes, more channels are taking an interest in rugby. It certainly does have an interest still for RTE. TV3 taking the 6 Nations will affect RTE. GAA is covered in league and championship and club games on TG4 and Setanta. Why do you want it moved from those channels? TV coverage isn't based significantly on popularity of a sport. Its based on advertising/sponsorship revenue as much as how many people are watching the games.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/06/2016 20:56:51    1867895

It is not just RTE who don't support GAA. Most radio stations do not have any GAA in their "bulletins". Soccer and Rugby get covered much more.
How to stop this? Well the GAA needs to emphasis that they are the "world leaders" in GAA?! That Croke park is the World wide HQ, not European or Commonwealth like Rugby and Football.
Finally they need to use the Irish language a bit more on the Sunday Game in my opinion. Slán
galwayford (Galway) - Posts:595 - 15/06/2016 11:23:35What do you mean by support the GAA. Soccer and Rugby will get covered more as their players will be available more as they are professional. They will train more and it will be during the day and press will be there more often. Just look at Sportsfile and INPHO, the sports photography websites. There is pictures nearly every day of the rugby and soccer teams training. That doesn't happen for the GAA teams anywhere near as much for a variety of reasons.
Why do they need to use irish more on sunday game when most don't use it regularly or understand it enough?

if the women figures for football or camogie are much higher then why was rugby been given such undeserved coverage if there was no bias?..i find it very puzzling..there simply isnt enough interest there to show it over other sports...the world cup gained some interest like all those competitions do but in general the interest simply wasnt there...what other broadcaster shows womens and u20s along with the six nations package?..pretty sure bbc/itv dont?
alano12 (Dublin) - Posts:94 - 15/06/2016 19:37:30 im fairly certain the womens rugby coverage is tied in a lot to the mens coverage. the games are played the same weekends as mens games and isn't the womens football sponsored by tg4? So I highly doubt RTE will want to be mentioning tg4 so much on their station.
BBC don't but that's because other stations have purchased the rights to 20s/womens games.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/06/2016 21:09:24    1867905