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The square ball rule is gone for open play. Still there if the ball is delivered to the square from a dead ball

theborderfox (Monaghan) - Posts: 138 - 12/06/2016 20:15:36    1865709

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Replying To theborderfox:  "The square ball rule is gone for open play. Still there if the ball is delivered to the square from a dead ball"
The square ball rule is still there in open play. It was altered slightly but it is still there.

You cannot be in the square before the ball is played to you.

Having seen the replay again MacNiallais seemed to have a foot in the square before the handpass to him was realesed which would mean it was a square ball and the goal should not have stood.

However it was a marginal call and very difficult to make in real time.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 12/06/2016 20:31:00    1865729

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Replying To theborderfox:  "The square ball rule is gone for open play. Still there if the ball is delivered to the square from a dead ball"
Correct

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 12/06/2016 20:46:26    1865743

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Replying To Dellboypolecat:  "Correct"
You still can't be in the square before the ball is played into you Del

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 12/06/2016 20:55:11    1865747

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Replying To MesAmis:  "You still can't be in the square before the ball is played into you Del"
Yes correct but once ball is kicked in open play you can enter the square before ball . But with free kicks ,45 , sidelines it is the same under old rule .

Dellboypolecat (Tyrone) - Posts: 15069 - 12/06/2016 20:59:30    1865752

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Replying To 2ndcumin:  "Just before everyone starts sticking the boot in here lets spare a thought tonight for a guy who'd give his life to wear a donegal jersey & is now going to have to miss out on an ulster championship, something he's devoted the last six months of his life to prepare for. A rush of blood that i'm sure he'd give anything to take back but still an all star full back and rightly so. I'm not part of any fan club but lets not get carried away slating a great gaa player who did bad in the heat of battle"
Thats all good and well but he could have done serious damage to corrigan. Should he have to deal with a broken jaw, lose a few teeth or take time off work because some decent lad went a bit over the top? Nasty incident and he seems to have form for it.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 12/06/2016 20:59:40    1865753

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Replying To 2ndcumin:  "Just before everyone starts sticking the boot in here lets spare a thought tonight for a guy who'd give his life to wear a donegal jersey & is now going to have to miss out on an ulster championship, something he's devoted the last six months of his life to prepare for. A rush of blood that i'm sure he'd give anything to take back but still an all star full back and rightly so. I'm not part of any fan club but lets not get carried away slating a great gaa player who did bad in the heat of battle"
Spare a thought for him? Are you serious? Tried to break a Kerry players fingers in the league and could have caused serious damage today. He's getting no sympathy from me. Deserves whatever ban he gets. Great footballer but serious discipline problems.

CroiGorm (Dublin) - Posts: 1547 - 12/06/2016 21:09:30    1865764

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Square ball is still a rule from open play
The change is that it's when the pass is kicked ot handpassed not when the ball enters, he clearly is standing inside the square before it's passed to him
you could see that in real time and replays. Poor analysis today as I don't think it even got mentioned in commentary or the studio.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/06/2016 21:11:47    1865766

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What has square ball got to do with this thread?

Neil McGee deservedly got the line today. Unfortunate is too soft a word for the offence.

On a positive note, I think that players are finally getting protection from the referees. I hope that this continues through the summer. Neil will be back before the end of the year, but he has got to change big style or he will be in trouble more often than not.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 12/06/2016 21:25:09    1865775

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Replying To TheRightStuff:  "No defending McGee . It was bad form .

We were poor and will have a very short summer ."
Your very honest in your posts. I have seen Neil mc Gee in action against Tyrone trying to run Stephen o Neill into a block wall behind the goals in ballybofey. Thought it was terrible dirty play and since then I have seen nothing from him to change my mind about him. Any team would be better off without him. He's a liability. Think Donegal will still be hard to beat in the semi finals.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 12/06/2016 21:36:52    1865785

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Donegalman I wasn't going to start a whole new thread to comment on the game and scene as their was no thread already for Donegal v fermanagh this was the obvious one as it was created about an incident in the match.
Poor analysis again on tonight's programme not even mentioned again
you would wonder how some of these guys get pundit jobs

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/06/2016 22:03:34    1865795

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Replying To The_Fridge:  "Poor challenge but let's not go over the top. there will be worse challenges over the summer. Defo a square ball....old rule or new rule."
To me it wasn't a "challenge" by any stretch of the imagination

Seansy48 (Tyrone) - Posts: 237 - 12/06/2016 22:26:10    1865812

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There is a lot of comment bout Neil McGee's tackle on here, simple thing is if had been on Donnelly or Jones, or anyone taller, it wouldn't have stirred them, simple, small man ran into big man, who had possession of the ball and was trying to get out of a cluster of players. No mention of Cassidy's strike on the other McGee, but that's right. He didn't go down and act like he had been hit been an asteroid. mans game lads

killer7 (UK) - Posts: 2 - 12/06/2016 22:56:36    1865830

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Replying To killer7:  "There is a lot of comment bout Neil McGee's tackle on here, simple thing is if had been on Donnelly or Jones, or anyone taller, it wouldn't have stirred them, simple, small man ran into big man, who had possession of the ball and was trying to get out of a cluster of players. No mention of Cassidy's strike on the other McGee, but that's right. He didn't go down and act like he had been hit been an asteroid. mans game lads"
If the forearm smash was allowed under the rules you wouldn't get many playing the "mans game". You're right about the other McGee though, should have been a red for the Fermanagh lad.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 12/06/2016 23:50:01    1865855

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Replying To killer7:  "There is a lot of comment bout Neil McGee's tackle on here, simple thing is if had been on Donnelly or Jones, or anyone taller, it wouldn't have stirred them, simple, small man ran into big man, who had possession of the ball and was trying to get out of a cluster of players. No mention of Cassidy's strike on the other McGee, but that's right. He didn't go down and act like he had been hit been an asteroid. mans game lads"
Good point killer re the punch on Eamon Mc Gee but the anti donegal brigade from Tyrone won't start a thread on that. They were quick however to start two others. The pressure must be building in them or maybe it's just that they're so unused to getting past the first round in Ulster for the past few years!

Tir Conaill Abu (Donegal) - Posts: 1671 - 13/06/2016 00:13:36    1865865

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Neil McGee got what he deserved today. The man should concentrate more on his football rather than going around acting like Robocop.

What he tried to do in the Kerry match was the most cowardly act I have seen. Fitzgerald went up in my estimation when he gave McGee what he deserved that day.

Overrated as a Full back it must be great to be a full back with Donegal the amount of players back to give him all the protection he needs.

jacktheDub (Dublin) - Posts: 944 - 13/06/2016 00:33:12    1865870

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Think Neil lost the rag a wee bit when Quigley had a swipe at him from the ground. It was a red mist moment which could be very costly. I mean, I think it's fair to say that on yesterday's evidence we were always going to be a bit too strong for Fermanagh so there was no need to be lashing out no matter what the provocation. I thought Kavanagh and McLoone's yellows were very silly also. Lazy high tackles that put the team under pressure. It was interesting to see Rory withdrawing the two men shortly after. Discipline has definitley deteriorated under Gallagher that's for sure.

Neil will miss the Monaghan game now and potentially the Ulster final. A huge loss but not insurmountable. Could Karl Lacey possibly roll back the years and deliver another virtouso man marking performance on McManus? Assuming available of course.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9136 - 13/06/2016 09:03:51    1865912

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Replying To killer7:  "There is a lot of comment bout Neil McGee's tackle on here, simple thing is if had been on Donnelly or Jones, or anyone taller, it wouldn't have stirred them, simple, small man ran into big man, who had possession of the ball and was trying to get out of a cluster of players. No mention of Cassidy's strike on the other McGee, but that's right. He didn't go down and act like he had been hit been an asteroid. mans game lads"
What an absolute load of nonsense re the forearm smash. Whether a man is 5.8 or 6.8, there's very little difference in the make up of his jaw and teeth you binlid. ' Man's game lad'...sweet jesus!

Seamy_Hendrix (Derry) - Posts: 47 - 13/06/2016 09:55:44    1865942

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Replying To killer7:  "There is a lot of comment bout Neil McGee's tackle on here, simple thing is if had been on Donnelly or Jones, or anyone taller, it wouldn't have stirred them, simple, small man ran into big man, who had possession of the ball and was trying to get out of a cluster of players. No mention of Cassidy's strike on the other McGee, but that's right. He didn't go down and act like he had been hit been an asteroid. mans game lads"
If it was Donnelly or Jones who got a forearm smash chances are they would have went down. A forearm smash is a smash. It can not be defended.
McGee did go down as if he was hit by an 'asteroid' as you put it. He was still lying on the ground when Deegan went in to talk to his umpires. Cassidy deserved to go for that too and I will not be defending him. It was a trampy act and if he gets a ban he can have no complaints.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 13/06/2016 11:43:52    1866038

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People are over reacting a bit here. I think that the card was given correctly. Neil faces a month on the line, or whatever the penalty is, which is a huge pity. I watched the tackle several times last night, in both real time and in slow motion. It was reckless, but not as bad as what people are making out nor the numerous dangerous high tackles that are part of the GAA culture now - when a player is at full speed and taken out with an out stretched arm for instance.

Deegan is a good ref and was good yesterday. I wish and hope that all other refs watch his style of enforcement and consistency.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 13/06/2016 11:57:05    1866056

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