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Armaghs response to Joe Brollys comments on the SG

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Never knew they were that sensitive in armagh as to what joe brolly says..do the talking on the pitch like tyrone do..and theres been a lot worse said about them in the past..

GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 06/06/2016 17:42:53    1862360

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At first I thought 'what the hell are you doing' when I first saw the county chairman on The Sunday Game. The more I think about it though I can see the reasoning. Since Geezer became manager their have been stories, without foundation, about excessive training or big money for this or that. It had gotten to the stage that it was being repeated as fact when it was anything but. Even in the county it was assumed as correct because little was said publicly otherwise. This could have the effect of hindering fundraising as people believe they have plenty of money when in reality a few years ago there were financial troubles. The county board obviously felt they had to speak out.

Armagh may of plenty of clubs but many now are struggling for money and numbers. The facilities in Armagh for many clubs are dire compared to comparable clubs in Tyrone or Down for example. The most populous part of the county - north Armagh - has a big non nationalist or GAA community. Armagh does not have as big a business base as Tyrone for example, or a Kingspan like Cavan. They overachieved for 10 years but not are feeling the neglect of not building on it at the time. The Athletic Grounds took about 10 years to build and there is no centre of excellence in the county.

Armaghball (Armagh) - Posts: 96 - 06/06/2016 18:42:22    1862391

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Allegations were made about Armagh that were incorrect, Armagh came out and defended themselves so at least we now know the truth. Don't really see the issue with the county board chairman appearing on the Sunday Game to clear things up.

Although I suppose the biggest problem here is that they felt the need to go public in the first place - says a lot about the standard of punditry and "analysis" that it actually came to this. Unfortunately it probably won't be the last time an official, manager or player has to come out and disprove some of the s***e people make up about them.

if_in_doubt (Kildare) - Posts: 3685 - 06/06/2016 22:23:18    1862532

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It came across very smalltime and cringeworthy, Armagh are better than that. Brolly must have been laughing his head off at this reaction. Some of these pundits talk an unholy amount of bull at times, to respond in this way was very strange. I've friends in Armagh who were embarrassed by the whole charade.

patk (Monaghan) - Posts: 936 - 06/06/2016 22:54:05    1862541

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If Brolly made observations rightly or wrongly about Armagh and where he thought they were going under mcGeeney fair enough.
But after the comments he made i understand the Armagh chairman wanting to correct the total inaccuracies about finances and players not wanting to play for the manager. This won't help mcGeeney of course . But can understand the Chairman saying it.
The bigger picture should be the platform Brolly has now and the soap operas that RTE are allowing happen to guys who are giving their life to their counties (Grimly got grief 2 years ago)
These aren't millionaire managers who can retreat to their luxury mansions if the papers have a go at them personally.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 06/06/2016 23:01:27    1862544

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Replying To Armaghball:  "At first I thought 'what the hell are you doing' when I first saw the county chairman on The Sunday Game. The more I think about it though I can see the reasoning. Since Geezer became manager their have been stories, without foundation, about excessive training or big money for this or that. It had gotten to the stage that it was being repeated as fact when it was anything but. Even in the county it was assumed as correct because little was said publicly otherwise. This could have the effect of hindering fundraising as people believe they have plenty of money when in reality a few years ago there were financial troubles. The county board obviously felt they had to speak out.

Armagh may of plenty of clubs but many now are struggling for money and numbers. The facilities in Armagh for many clubs are dire compared to comparable clubs in Tyrone or Down for example. The most populous part of the county - north Armagh - has a big non nationalist or GAA community. Armagh does not have as big a business base as Tyrone for example, or a Kingspan like Cavan. They overachieved for 10 years but not are feeling the neglect of not building on it at the time. The Athletic Grounds took about 10 years to build and there is no centre of excellence in the county."
A big business base like Tyrone?
Take a drive through South Armagh and look at some if the houses/ranches with the manicured lawns. Obviously some of the business down that way are doing pretty well for themselves. Whatever Armaghs problems are its not a lack of money within the county.
As Brian McGuigan said in the Gaelic Life last week a failure to strike when the iron was hot and tap into this source of income when things were going good has lead to the problems being experienced now. Armagh broughta huge followingt It seems like those in charge at county board level were too busy enjoying riding the wave of success brought about by an exceptional bunch of players to think about what was going to happen once they were gone.

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 06/06/2016 23:28:55    1862550

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Blasted phones, will try again:
A big business base like Tyrone?
Take a drive through South Armagh and look at some if the houses/ranches with the manicured lawns. Obviously some of the "businesses" down that way are doing pretty well for themselves. Whatever Armaghs problems are its not a lack of money within the county.
As Brian McGuigan said in the Gaelic Life last week a failure to strike when the iron was hot and tap into this source of income when things were going good has lead to the problems being experienced now. Armagh brought a huge following with them at that time, a following who would of quite happily dug deep to help set up the development squads needed to ensure a legacy was left on the back of that team that would secure the future well being of Armagh football.
However it seems like those in charge at county board level were too busy enjoying riding the wave of success brought about by an exceptional bunch of players to think about what was going to happen once they were gone.

benched (Tyrone) - Posts: 534 - 07/06/2016 00:17:57    1862559

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Replying To benched:  "A big business base like Tyrone?
Take a drive through South Armagh and look at some if the houses/ranches with the manicured lawns. Obviously some of the business down that way are doing pretty well for themselves. Whatever Armaghs problems are its not a lack of money within the county.
As Brian McGuigan said in the Gaelic Life last week a failure to strike when the iron was hot and tap into this source of income when things were going good has lead to the problems being experienced now. Armagh broughta huge followingt It seems like those in charge at county board level were too busy enjoying riding the wave of success brought about by an exceptional bunch of players to think about what was going to happen once they were gone."
Two quick points. Firstly Tyrone has one of the biggest engineering areas in Europe. There is more businesses in Clonoe than there is in Armagh City. Secondly, the point Brian McGuigan made about not doing enough in the good years is correct in my opinion. I am not sure if many are aware but there was a major overhaul of the Armagh County Board a few years ago. The current board seemingly inherited major financial problems. Efforts have been made to sort this out before firm future plans can/ could be made. It may be a problem of the county's own making but it still has to be sorted.

Armaghball (Armagh) - Posts: 96 - 07/06/2016 00:33:14    1862560

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I think they are well within their rights to reply and correct the untruths which were broadcast but the manner was all wrong. Should've just been an open letter to the sunday game or whatever. I mean if the sunday game are broadcasting inaccurate stuff like that should they not be issuing corrections and apologies like print media often do.?Analysis and punditry is all perfectly fine but wild innacurate statements are not on and it's amazing how often they do it.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12123 - 07/06/2016 12:15:29    1862739

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Replying To Armaghball:  "Two quick points. Firstly Tyrone has one of the biggest engineering areas in Europe. There is more businesses in Clonoe than there is in Armagh City. Secondly, the point Brian McGuigan made about not doing enough in the good years is correct in my opinion. I am not sure if many are aware but there was a major overhaul of the Armagh County Board a few years ago. The current board seemingly inherited major financial problems. Efforts have been made to sort this out before firm future plans can/ could be made. It may be a problem of the county's own making but it still has to be sorted."
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=256322

Kernan is on the ball here!

shoulderghost (Limerick) - Posts: 863 - 07/06/2016 12:34:27    1862754

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Replying To waynoI:  "What do we think of Armagh coming out whinging to the sunday game ?"
Don't think they should have done it, brings attention they don't need , a more Kieran Donaghy approach would be better , on the other hand at least you know they care about one of there own even if a little misguided in showing it.

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 07/06/2016 13:01:02    1862770

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