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Awful first half seen better juvenile games than this rubbish. Both teams with over 10 wides a piece - you can hope second half is better. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4896 - 05/06/2016 16:50:20 1861840 Link 1 |
Clare are having a nightmare with their shooting both from frees and open play. Waterford are slightly more accurate. Game can only improve in the second half and hopefully the crowd will wake up too.
neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 05/06/2016 16:51:08 1861842 Link 0 |
Have to say Maurice Shanahan has fooled the ref twice in this game, holding onto his opponent's arm on the refs blind side and winning 2 frees that were pointed. But the most amazing thing of all is that Michael Duignan on commentary accepted the ref's decisions at face value. Unbelievable. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 05/06/2016 17:11:58 1861847 Link 0 |
I must say i'm delighted that Waterford have won today.The league final defeat must have hurt badly.They could have wasted time sulking about the harsh loss,but it is a fantastic sign that Waterford put in such a disciplined,highly skilled performance today. cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 05/06/2016 17:37:33 1861851 Link 0 |
The best team won. Waterford used the hurt from the League final defeat to drive on today. Clare were disappointing. They faded out of the 2nd half badly. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 05/06/2016 17:46:30 1861856 Link 0 |
I thought it was more than just that. Colin Ryan will go straight back into the clare team for freetaking alone, I don't remember Mahony missing one. In 2013 clare had McGrath in the full forward line ready to pounce. Now he is just lost in the congested middle third with Podge, Tony Kelly etc. To me you play one of O'Donnell or Honan who feeds McGrath with Kelly and Collins bursting through from the wing forward line. Conlon should be out on the half forward line winning the dirty ball with McGrath inside, not the other way around. I watched Clare lose to Cork in Thurles last year and it was done to crazy tactics like this. All this talk about Clare's defensive system and short handing passing but Fitzgerald's inability to use his forwards properly is the big he's problem. I've probably made the same point 3/4 times above but it's that obvious. Now for Waterford. They started nervously despite scoring 1-1 so quickly. That should have settled them down. Overall Waterford were very good and it looks like they know how to close a game out now. Tipp could learn a lot from the last 15 mins. Somebody needs to tell Gleeson he is not superman. He overdoes it, he turned a goal chance into an Austin Gleeson point. If it was the lads in black in Amber you know it's a goal and that's the ultimate difference between contenders and champions. I think Waterford are very strong and have a nice balance about them. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 05/06/2016 18:16:14 1861864 Link 0 |
:) Maurice fooled the ref a few times?? rewind the first half my friend, 4/5 frees, and commented on by panel, not given by fouling Maurice
juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 05/06/2016 18:19:32 1861865 Link 0 |
thought the best team won, the majority of lads from other counties that I have spoken too agree that Waterford were the better team in the two league finals too - Stephen O'Keeffe best goal keeper in the country by far, Gleeson potentially hurler of the year, Padraig Mahony back fully fit combined with the Goliath efforts put in by the other 12 players and squad players, Waterford have arrived as serious contenders, 2 very impressive seasons of hurling, they will be there or thereabouts on 04/09. juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 05/06/2016 18:23:35 1861866 Link 0 |
Waterford by far the best team and I am delighted for them. Cyril Farrell name checked Kevin Moran as having a great game on the TV coverage. Will have to look at it again...all I can say is he was brutally bad in the first half -- hitting bad wides, taking wrong options etc. Obviously he improved hugely in the 2nd half to have got name checked... Waterford are a serious team and are on the shortlist for winning the All Ireland. Clare can go one of two ways -- fade away like in the past 2 years or regroup and be very serious contenders too.. Since they won't meet a team of any consequence in their next game I think they will regroup and will still be All Ireland contenders. PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 05/06/2016 18:27:20 1861868 Link 0 |
While it is fresh in my mind let me say LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2479 - 05/06/2016 18:30:11 1861869 Link 1 |
Im sure there are other things that I didn't see where Waterford were hard done by but I am 100% certain that Maurice Shanahan did fool the ref twice. I was watching the game with an Antrim and Meath man and they saw both incidents the same way as I did, without any suggestion from me! Delighted for Waterford today --- ye were the best team and ye really do deserve an All Ireland.
PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1903 - 05/06/2016 18:33:48 1861870 Link 0 |
the "anti Dave brigade" won't be out today cos he didn't play up to the cameras!! ~coming from Waterford man who didn't want him to go...facts are simple, he brings it on himself.
juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 05/06/2016 18:39:05 1861872 Link 0 |
Waterford were definitely the better team but it could have been much closer. McGrath will never have a game as bad again he missed so many handy scores for a player of his calibre. Clare depend on Tony Kelly and he was not as influential and Galvinwho was the best midfielder in the country hasn't hit the heights he was at pre America. Clare will be a team to be reckoned with when Conlon Cunningham and McInerney are fully fit. Honan wasn't really at the races either today I think he is suited to full forward with Shane O Donnell and McGrath working off them. dubshurling7 (Dublin) - Posts: 1017 - 05/06/2016 18:40:41 1861873 Link 1 |
an antrim and a meath man???? replay or no replay!! I live in meath so well done the royals :)
juniorjudge (Waterford) - Posts: 383 - 05/06/2016 18:44:33 1861875 Link 0 |
Hard luck LRH. Davy's tactics are baffling to say the least though. Colin Ryan has to start the next day to turn that dominance into scores from placed balls. Bringing McInerney on as a forward was strange. Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 05/06/2016 18:57:51 1861884 Link 0 |
Great performance by Waterford , very impressed . An All-Ireland in them yet maybe? BarryPD (Dublin) - Posts: 34 - 05/06/2016 19:08:12 1861890 Link 0 |
Well done Waterford. That was a serious performance but Im not a bit surprised. Brilliant performances all over the field. As for Clare, we cant expect to win when 4 or 5 of our best players fail to deliver. Podge, Kelly, McGrath were shadows of themselves int he last game and Conlon might have made a hasty return. , Some of our players just didnt seem up for it..maybe the heat factor. We will regroup and will be back I think...I hope ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 05/06/2016 20:18:14 1861938 Link 0 |
enjoyed the game. waterford were by far the better team for about 65 minutes of the league final replay agin Clare so I suppose we shouldnt be too surprised. Tony kelly, Shane O Donnell, Podge Collins were taken completely out of the game. joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 05/06/2016 20:31:11 1861952 Link 0 |
Yet? They are a very young team starting out. They are hardly anywhere near the end of the road.
Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 05/06/2016 20:42:34 1861960 Link 0 |
Like to see Waterford do well but is it me or are both counties overrated, huge amount of wides and pretty poor first half. If Wexford can at some point get their act together nothing to fear they should have beaten both of these in the league. Don't think there is one outstanding team in it this year, Tipp lack a killer instinct, Kilkenny not the team of old, Limerick and Galway will collapse at a crucial moment and Cork struggling. Only good thing is Offaly getting a bit of form back, love to see them give Galway a rattle, another overrated team. Jedobi (Wexford) - Posts: 143 - 06/06/2016 04:16:39 1862035 Link 0 |