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your basically saying we knew all along the score was wrong and kept our mouths shut...our management asked the officals what was the correct score because it came down from tg4 that the score was wrong the ref said the scoreboard was correct and that tg4 was wrong..we played the game that was in front of us...if the ref knew after the game he made a score error why did it take so long..this should have been sorted within 5 minutes of full time. this ddidn't need 72 hours to make a decision. this is the gaa's fault both teams have been let down by the GAA. not fair on both sets of players but whoever does the stats for antrim should have said it right away
srgt_slaughter (Meath) - Posts: 462 - 08/06/2016 08:22:10 1863370 Link 0 |
So what you are saying is that Antrim (also victims of the shambolic organising and officiating on Saturday) should go with the original mistake and facilitate the same outcome of last Saturdays mistake?
Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 08/06/2016 08:26:21 1863372 Link 1 |
Apologies for hogging this board this morning lads but just catching up on a lot of stuff since yesterdays announcement - I think the important thing here is for the two counties not to fall out over this as we have both been treated with a degree of contempt since Saturday morning or even earlier when plans were being put in place for this final. Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 08/06/2016 08:30:25 1863374 Link 0 |
Oh god I have no problem with Antrim.I have a serious problem with the Gaa over the whole thing.The clear lack of respect they have shown both counties and the competition as a whole.They have proven they don't care unless its Kilkenny,Tipp etc.Personally I think Meath and Antrim should go to Newry on Saturday and as soon as the ref blows the whistle to start the game both sides should sit on the pitch.Amazing how HQ hasn't apolagized to both teams.
ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/06/2016 08:59:07 1863380 Link 0 |
A replay was not only the correct decision, it was thee ONLY decision that made any sense. Both teams cannot go into the Liam McMarthy next season and Meath were awarded a trophy for a game they had not won...its a no brainer. Yeah, it totally stinks for both sides (particularly Meath) but lads, in the scheme of things, it aint the end of the world! Mistakes happen..people are only human! THEMOLE2 (Down) - Posts: 1615 - 08/06/2016 09:03:41 1863381 Link 3 |
Yes, but only if the feeling in Antrim is that Meath should be allowed to win the competition, both teams played to the scoreboard, etc etc. But of course, if the feeling is that the game was a draw and no one won (which is of course the truth but was not the atmosphere which existed in Croke Park immediately after the game), then of course they should turn up and contest it. The GAA have made a monumental mess of this. It was a terrible mistake to begin with and it has been made even worse at every turn. I don't know if a replay is the right decision (and it clearly is to some people and clearly isn't to others), but it definitely should not be taking place so soon. Give it another month, or play it before and All-Ireland semi-final or wait till next year's league is finished... but not this Saturday. Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1042 - 08/06/2016 09:14:37 1863383 Link 0 |
Not at all. I don't know who knew what, when to be honest it doesn't matter . When it finally was found the game was a draw the Meath GAA and it's manager needs to accept that and act in a professional and sportsmanlike manner and get on with it .How the GAA handled is a separate matter and they put through the ringer for it. Like I said, if you want the cup you have got to earn it, no free lunch or hiding behind GAA bureaucracy etc...I made a connection to golf where a result is not official until a signed scorecard is turned in. The same should apply with a ref. after a game a signed scorecard makes it official, if he cannot come up with the final score he cannot sign a scorecard hence no cup ceremony.... until an official result is turned in.
murrax (Wexford) - Posts: 90 - 08/06/2016 09:17:33 1863386 Link 1 |
That's the thing - personally at this stage I could not give a monkeys but at the same time I want to be mindful of the guys who have shown commitment to Antrim over the last few months - we have a situation in our County where we do not all pull the one way as far as the county hurling team is concerned but at the same time the guys who have pulled on the jersey and put it in deserve respect and as such I do not want to speak for them or even tell them how they should be feeling.
Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 08/06/2016 09:39:13 1863397 Link 0 |
What?? No way. Replays are generally 1 week, sometimes we've even seen 6 days. Everyone knew there was an issue on Sunday, and that a replay was a possibility so it's a little more than 4 days notice. You can't expect teams to wait a month or even into August/next years league on one game. We're constantly giving out about length of time between games, there's no way we could make both teams wait that long. Lets be realistic here. It has been a shambles, but replays always come about quickly.
Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2407 - 08/06/2016 09:54:23 1863412 Link 0 |
your basically saying we knew all along the score was wrong and kept our mouths shut...our management asked the officals what was the correct score because it came down from tg4 that the score was wrong the ref said the scoreboard was correct and that tg4 was wrong..we played the game that was in front of us...if the ref knew after the game he made a score error why did it take so long..this should have been sorted within 5 minutes of full time. this ddidn't need 72 hours to make a decision. this is the gaa's fault both teams have been let down by the GAA. not fair on both sets of players but whoever does the stats for antrim should have said it right away bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 08/06/2016 10:09:51 1863425 Link 0 |
Let's get one thing straight here, Meath did not win by cheating or help from a third party and we have never won anything in that way. Meath clarified the score with the match officials having heard concerns, they were told the score at the time was correct by the match officials so could that ever be conducive to either cheating or third party help. In the history of the GAA when your ahead on the scoreboard at the end you win, if we are so insecure that we have to hold off on presentations etc until everything is verified then we may forget about it. And for what it's worth I stand square behind Martin Ennis on his views and agree totally with his statement and look forward to the CCCC response regarding his concerns on Hawkeye
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 08/06/2016 10:11:16 1863426 Link 0 |
Let's get one thing straight here, Meath did not win by cheating or help from a third party and we have never won anything in that way. Meath clarified the score with the match officials having heard concerns, they were told the score at the time was correct by the match officials so could that ever be conducive to either cheating or third party help. In the history of the GAA when your ahead on the scoreboard at the end you win, if we are so insecure that we have to hold off on presentations etc until everything is verified then we may forget about it. And for what it's worth I stand square behind Martin Ennis on his views and agree totally with his statement and look forward to the CCCC response regarding his concerns on Hawkeye
Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 08/06/2016 10:13:18 1863427 Link 0 |
SAturday 7pm Newry Finsceal (None) - Posts: 559 - 08/06/2016 10:31:01 1863440 Link 1 |
Yes, but only if the feeling in Antrim is that Meath should be allowed to win the competition, both teams played to the scoreboard, etc etc. But of course, if the feeling is that the game was a draw and no one won (which is of course the truth but was not the atmosphere which existed in Croke Park immediately after the game), then of course they should turn up and contest it. bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 08/06/2016 10:32:59 1863442 Link 0 |
"Christy Ring Cup replay between @MeathGAA & @AontroimGAA is this Saturday, June 11th, Páirc Esler, Newry.C GAA harp on about catering for club players & then go organise Christy Ring replay for the weekend the Meath club SHC was fixed to start. Both sets of players may cancel the tickets to the states and try sober up before saturday IrelandUnited (Tyrone) - Posts: 77 - 08/06/2016 10:34:33 1863445 Link 1 |
I must say the one winner in all this will be TG4 now, I assume they will cover it live again. bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 08/06/2016 10:37:51 1863449 Link 0 |
Yeah bumper heard last night that Antrim Management had twice throughout the game advised that the scoreline was incorrect but that they were brushed away. . If this is correct then to say Antrim were playing to the scoreboard and thought they lost couldn't be further from the truth as the Management knew that Meath had equalised and not gone ahead. And that kinda rubbishes all this 'sure Antrim thought they were beaten so let Meath keep it' bull that has been peddled here over the last few days. I had noticed in the aftermath someone on Hoganstand had made comment about the attitude of the Antrim manager in the interview after the game - I didn't see the interview myself but maybe this all makes sense now in that he knew what was going on and felt an injustice. Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 08/06/2016 10:56:17 1863460 Link 0 |
The Meath management mentioned they had been told the score was wrong to the officials on the sideline and as of Monday night where they were still champions, the team were in coppers in Dublin. Stop pointing the finger our way. Irish_downunder (Meath) - Posts: 631 - 08/06/2016 10:58:03 1863465 Link 0 |
I completely understand Meath's frustration and anger over what has transpired. But it is the referee who is responsible for the score of a match not the scoreboard, what he has in his book stands - he admitted he made a mistake and that is that as they say. I know you wouldn't want to win a cup on a technicality, both teams have been hard done by. It is not as if the maths is that complicated.
arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 08/06/2016 11:10:42 1863477 Link 0 |
Lads this game won't go ahead. ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 08/06/2016 11:26:02 1863485 Link 1 |