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Replying To Pingcity:  "I do understand the frustration of both teams having do it all again this weekend but it's the right decision and fair is fair. I think the Meath managers statement is nothing short of embarrassing and lacks class and sportsmanship"
Why what did the Meath manager say?

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 07/06/2016 20:37:41    1863168

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on another note , I thought Baker's comments on the Sunday Game with respect to the disputed outcome were disgraceful. totally belittled the whole competiton ..laughing through it ,,, " sure don't meath deserve it etc""" what a load of bol----.

conair0 (Antrim) - Posts: 45 - 07/06/2016 20:40:54    1863174

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Frustrating affair but if both can't be promoted and hold the cup for 6 months each on the basis of the drawn first game then a replay is the only option.

seanie_boy (Tyrone) - Posts: 4235 - 07/06/2016 20:42:24    1863177

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Taken from Meath Chronicle
"I'm very disappointed with the decision of the GAA's CCC to order a replay of the Ring Cup final, effectively putting Antrim and ourselves against each other over a mistake that was of their making," Ennis told the Meath Chronicle.

"we have no intention of paying the price for the mistake of the GAA. Asking us to replay a game that we firmly believe we won last Saturday is very disappointing.

"We sought clarification from the CCCC about Sean Heavey's perfectly good point in the 41st minute, but it appears to me that they never even looked at that score.

"I requested that the officials look at the point with Hawkeye at the time, but they refused, so what I want to know now is why did they refuse? I also want them to retrospectively go back and look at that decision.

"I'm also very disappointed that the GAA President made the comments he made this morning on RTE Radio. What was the point of having a CCCC meeting when it already appears as if the decision was already made.

"This really is shambolic and a farce and it is far from over yet. As a management team we are firmly against playing a replay to a game we have already won, collected the cup and celebrated. I will contact each of the players to get their views, but how can the players be in the right frame of mind or be physically right to play a game next Saturday. It's nothing short of a disgrace.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 07/06/2016 20:46:34    1863182

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I can see meath not fielding on Saturday. Both teams treated terribly. Replay is probably fair but 4 days to prepare for it. Lads just won't be ready. Not Antrim fault either but leave them have it.

Royalace (Meath) - Posts: 121 - 07/06/2016 21:16:47    1863209

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I have seen blatant mistakes by referees over the years and nothing was done about it. This a bad precedent.

Oldtourman (Limerick) - Posts: 4342 - 07/06/2016 21:19:06    1863212

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Replying To Pingcity:  "I do understand the frustration of both teams having do it all again this weekend but it's the right decision and fair is fair. I think the Meath managers statement is nothing short of embarrassing and lacks class and sportsmanship"
If you're referring to his statements as reported here: http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/we-are-firmly-against-playing-a-replay-to-a-game-we-have-already-won-meath-boss-martin-ennis-slams-gaa-34779686.html
then I'm not sure what you find objectionable. His sentiments are pretty understandable, I think. And pretty fair. Remember, the Meath bench alerted the officals to the scoreboard error with 10 minutes left in the game, and they were told to play to the scoreboard. Hawkeye wasn't working, the scoreboard was wrong, the officials weren't keeping the correct score, and didn't heed the warning they were given about the mistake DURING the match. Nothing was done once the final whistle went, and Meath were given the cup. And now they want them to play a rematch with 4 days notice? Its unreasonable.

If they can't promote both teams, then at least they should be considerate in fixing a replay. But the GAA have added insult to injury. You know what, if the GAA had fixed the replay for August, before one of the AI semi's, a big occasion that the Ring final was originally supposed to take place on, then at least there would have been some reward (or upside) for the 2 teams, and they would have a chance to prepare properly. But no. its bad form.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 07/06/2016 21:19:48    1863213

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Replying To Pingcity:  "I do understand the frustration of both teams having do it all again this weekend but it's the right decision and fair is fair. I think the Meath managers statement is nothing short of embarrassing and lacks class and sportsmanship"
Dont agree with your cheap shot at Ennis, he had just seen Ring Cup taken away from him and his team, as he said decision was taken before meeting this afternoon, how can any group of player get right for replay after this farce.

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 07/06/2016 21:31:33    1863230

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Apparently the Meath county board have said there has been no contact from anyone in the GAA about a possible replay on Saturday.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/06/2016 21:55:50    1863261

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Replying To seadog54:  "Dont agree with your cheap shot at Ennis, he had just seen Ring Cup taken away from him and his team, as he said decision was taken before meeting this afternoon, how can any group of player get right for replay after this farce."
I would like to support our neighbours on this awful decision.The president virtually told the Ccc what to do by
refusing to consider the logical thing to do ie promote the two.As recently as 2014 there were five teams in the Leinster round robin.
Perhaps it's time for Leinster to get their act together and tell the other provinces where to go and have a Leinster round robin of Westmeath,Laois,Carlow and Meath and let Munster and Ulster sort themselves out

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1459 - 07/06/2016 21:56:55    1863262

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Replying To royaldunne:  "I think at this stage Meath should just show up and remain standing after ball is thrown in, allow Antrim to score, shake hands with them, and walk off the pitch, this is not Antrim fault and both counties and their players have been treated in a diabolical manner by the GAA, for the president to preempt the outcome before the ccc had met on a radio program is despicable.
No apology to either county, really whoever wins on Saturday (another disgrace) that its been played so soon, the real looser here is the players from both counties, ref looses pencil, Hawkeye is broken down, honestly the writers of fr ted wouldn't come up with such a outrageous series of events, and the precious ccc members couldn't get back to Dublin for a emergency meeting on Sunday?
Absolutely disgraceful, .
BTW snapper if we going on refs report from 10, let us not forget that he also Sai he would have awarded a penalty for the multiple fouls on Sheridan too. But hey never let the truth get in the way of a good story."
First foul was a square ball, it should have been a free out but hey dont let that truth get in the way of a good stoy.

THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 07/06/2016 21:59:02    1863266

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Replying To Marlon_JD:  "If you're referring to his statements as reported here: http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/hurling/we-are-firmly-against-playing-a-replay-to-a-game-we-have-already-won-meath-boss-martin-ennis-slams-gaa-34779686.html
then I'm not sure what you find objectionable. His sentiments are pretty understandable, I think. And pretty fair. Remember, the Meath bench alerted the officals to the scoreboard error with 10 minutes left in the game, and they were told to play to the scoreboard. Hawkeye wasn't working, the scoreboard was wrong, the officials weren't keeping the correct score, and didn't heed the warning they were given about the mistake DURING the match. Nothing was done once the final whistle went, and Meath were given the cup. And now they want them to play a rematch with 4 days notice? Its unreasonable.

If they can't promote both teams, then at least they should be considerate in fixing a replay. But the GAA have added insult to injury. You know what, if the GAA had fixed the replay for August, before one of the AI semi's, a big occasion that the Ring final was originally supposed to take place on, then at least there would have been some reward (or upside) for the 2 teams, and they would have a chance to prepare properly. But no. its bad form."
great post

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/06/2016 22:01:35    1863268

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Replying To seadog54:  "Dont agree with your cheap shot at Ennis, he had just seen Ring Cup taken away from him and his team, as he said decision was taken before meeting this afternoon, how can any group of player get right for replay after this farce."
Meath statement is not understandable.. did they win the game though as indicated ?. A replay is the only course of action.. nobody won or lost.. it was a draw. I agree 4 days is harsh on both teams but that is a different matter.

sam1884 (UK) - Posts: 999 - 07/06/2016 22:03:25    1863271

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Replying To sam1884:  "Meath statement is not understandable.. did they win the game though as indicated ?. A replay is the only course of action.. nobody won or lost.. it was a draw. I agree 4 days is harsh on both teams but that is a different matter."
The fact that the game is announced 4 days later without them consulting Meath and likely Antrim too,well what reaction did HQ expect??!

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/06/2016 22:14:07    1863278

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Simply put the GAA through this whole farce have shown they don't care about the weaker counties and do not care unless its the McCarthy Cup.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/06/2016 22:18:14    1863280

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Whatever about a replay being ordered, it shouldn't have been fixed for this Saturday, especially with the CCCC waiting till today to come to a decision. A farce of the highest order. But Antrim (and Meath) played to the scoreboard, so maybe the right thing would be for the counties to agree that Antrim not show up and that Meath select a token 15 players (over-40's, U-14s, etc), score a point and collect the trophy.

Tacaí Liatroma (Leitrim) - Posts: 1042 - 07/06/2016 22:42:13    1863314

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Replying To waynoI:  "Meath are being ripped off here. Bang out of order."
Meath ripped off? They were credited a score they didn't get, Antrim got ripped off being denied a replay they rightfully earned. I think it is high time for the Meath manager to step up and set an example to his squad and to sport in general by saying the only way you win is by earning it, not by cheating, or getting help from a third party etc.
Maybe they should take a page from golf where a player will call a foul on themselves and the score isn't official until a signed scorecard is turned in.

murrax (Wexford) - Posts: 90 - 07/06/2016 23:03:12    1863328

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Replying To Richieq:  "Utter joke, the precious bodies on the CCCC had to have their weekend off. If you are positioned on such a high powered committee you should be willing to meet at short notice and make a ruling, in this case either Saturday night or Sunday morning not 72 hours afterwards and order a replay them for 4 days later. I note that no apology has been offered to either team for this farce that I have seen which tells you a lot of what is thought of what both teams have had to endure, I imagine the Meath County Board meeting tomorrow night will be good fun"
I agree, 3 days is far too long to get round to meeting for something as pressing as this - they should have convened immediately and had a decision out Sunday at the latest. There was a situation a few years back where Celtic played a Champions League qualifier against Warsaw who fielded an ineligible player on the Wed night. The draw for the next round was Friday morning yet UEFA for all their flaws had a decision made in time for the draw which was about 36 hrs after the game had finished and this is a big money business where you are talking millions at stake for the relevant teams where you would imagine there was a lot more legalities to consider. GAA is amateur in name and amateur in nature.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 08/06/2016 08:12:17    1863366

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Replying To jokerofthelane:  "I think this farce just shows what the GAA think of the lower tier counties. If there was any doubt about the score line it should have been addressed Saturday night. I think Meath will have a hard time getting back up for it and I think so will Antrim. Letting both teams play in the round robin would have been a fair resolution."
jokerofthelane I think you are correct here - while the focus is obviously on Meath it is an unsettling situation for us to be in also and the way it has panned out Meath will be going into the replay with a massive feeling of injustice which could make them a very dangerous animal indeed.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 08/06/2016 08:15:23    1863367

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Replying To waynoI:  "Meath are being ripped off here. Bang out of order."
waynoI elaborate.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 08/06/2016 08:20:05    1863369

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