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Replying To Loughduff Lad:  "The match score does not become final until the referees report is logged. The referee has acknowledged in it that the score was wrong and it was a draw, not a Meath win. The GAA has no option here but to order a replay. It's hard on both teams (Meath a little more so after long celebrations) as they now both have 4 days to get ready for Saturday evening. But again, the GAA had no option here. Those are their rules and they can't break them because a trophy was erroneously awarded.

I also can't see why Meath wanted this to stand, there is no way it wasn't tainted, especially after the 2010 Leinster debacle. And I don't like both sides excuse that they have players away on holiday, going to the US or whatever. If the game finished as a draw on the pitch (i.e. there was no mess with the scoreboard and the trophy wasn't awarded to Meath) then they'd totally want a replay. They'd hardly go "ah sure we're away next weekend lads, we don't want a replay". Lets get on with it the replay and move away from this shambles."
Right decision to replay the game but this brings into question the dreadful way Louth were treated in the aftermath of the 2010 Leinster final. If the referees score is not final until he submits his report why then did referee Martin Sluddden submit his report containing a wrong score, a score that gave Meath a 2 point win over Louth despite the fact he had admitted to making a mistake awarding Meath a late late goal that won the game for them ?.

THE_SNAPPER (Louth) - Posts: 2019 - 07/06/2016 18:16:47    1863048

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Utter joke, the precious bodies on the CCCC had to have their weekend off. If you are positioned on such a high powered committee you should be willing to meet at short notice and make a ruling, in this case either Saturday night or Sunday morning not 72 hours afterwards and order a replay them for 4 days later. I note that no apology has been offered to either team for this farce that I have seen which tells you a lot of what is thought of what both teams have had to endure, I imagine the Meath County Board meeting tomorrow night will be good fun

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 07/06/2016 18:26:29    1863054

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Replying To MesAmis:  "If the GAA decided to replay the game in a few weeks there would be plenty of complaints too.

Whatever the decision they were going to get abuse.

The Meath players would have been aware that there was a strong chance of a replay a couple of hours after the game."
Come on Mes in fairness, there's no excuse for the Gaa knowing there was trouble as early as Saturday evening and not meeting up till Tuesday, and then ordering a replay for 4 days later at that meeting. It's about as incompetent and disrespectful towards both teams as you can get, again it's a big two fingers towards lower tier counties and competitions.

As for the Meath lads knowing there could be a replay, look they're young lads who just won their first major (well supposedly major) game in Croke Park, I doubt very much there was a huge heap of rational, composed thought going on.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 07/06/2016 18:32:22    1863058

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "I hate to say I told you's all but eh I told you's all.

100% the right call by the ABCCC"
don't agree joke ofa decision

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 07/06/2016 18:44:49    1863065

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Unfortunately the fairest thing to do at this point is to have a reply. Meath didn't win the game and Antrim didn't lose. I feel Meath are the ones who are really going to pay the price however, as they had Antrim on the ropes and had an excellent chance had the game gone to extra time. Having said that Antrim don't deserve to lose simply because of a counting error. This is an awful situation and a replay is the least unfair option.

Regarding the decision to replay the game this Saturday, this is just pure daft. I don't think Meath have a chance with it being played so soon. No way could you get your head right in time. A couple of weeks should have been given. The Meath SHC shouldn't be starting so soon after the Christy Ring anyway so moving it back shouldn't be a problem.

AllWhite (Kildare) - Posts: 171 - 07/06/2016 18:46:30    1863067

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I think this farce just shows what the GAA think of the lower tier counties. If there was any doubt about the score line it should have been addressed Saturday night. I think Meath will have a hard time getting back up for it and I think so will Antrim. Letting both teams play in the round robin would have been a fair resolution.

jokerofthelane (Meath) - Posts: 48 - 07/06/2016 18:46:56    1863068

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I think at this stage if there is a game,it should be played on Meath and Antrims terms.The GAA mucked this up,how dare they order the game to be played this Saturday!

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/06/2016 19:00:08    1863079

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "I think at this stage if there is a game,it should be played on Meath and Antrims terms.The GAA mucked this up,how dare they order the game to be played this Saturday!"
Totally agree Ziggy

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 07/06/2016 19:11:28    1863090

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Replying To THE_SNAPPER:  "Right decision to replay the game but this brings into question the dreadful way Louth were treated in the aftermath of the 2010 Leinster final. If the referees score is not final until he submits his report why then did referee Martin Sluddden submit his report containing a wrong score, a score that gave Meath a 2 point win over Louth despite the fact he had admitted to making a mistake awarding Meath a late late goal that won the game for them ?."
The Louth one is a different issue in my eyes. There were two fouls or so in the scoring of the goal, but the goal was allowed to stand. The green flag was waved and play went on (albeit not for long). The issue here is that Meath were given a score on the scoreboard that they did not get, so when the referee posted the score in his report, it was a draw. I felt for Louth in that game, but the ref let the goal stand (although he did admit he made a terrible mistake) so there was nothing the GAA could do about it afterwards. They were consequently able to do something after this game.

Loughduff Lad (Cavan) - Posts: 2407 - 07/06/2016 19:21:49    1863096

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It had to be replayed. They should be allowed 2 weeks preparation time for the replay.

As a side note again: In my own humble opinion the Christy Ring finalists along with the 3rd and 4th placed teams from the qualifier group should be allowed into the All-Ireland qualifiers to take on the 4 beaten provincial quarter-finalists.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7876 - 07/06/2016 19:25:04    1863097

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Ah now come on. It was obvious straight away that the possibility of a replay was very high here. The press and Antrim management thought it was a draw immediately after the final whistle.

The could have put it back a further week alright to let the Meath players regroup psychologically more than physically."
First I knew there was any talk of possible wrong final score line was a few hours after this match was finished (and it was played on Saturday evening), so it certainly was not obvious straight away that the possibility of a replay was very high here so it was natural that the Meath players would go on the beer. Then next came talk that the referee's score agreed with the scoreboard but this conflicted with journalists final score in the press section which seemed to indicate that it was likely that a score the referee awarded had not been signalled by the linesman (there was talk of a Meath point which was not signalled by the linesman). I took a long time to emerge that the referee had said he had miscalculated the scores. By the way I never heard that Antrim management thought they drew the game at full time and their players thought they had lost it at the end of the game.

bdbuddah (Meath) - Posts: 1359 - 07/06/2016 19:27:32    1863099

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I think at this stage Meath should just show up and remain standing after ball is thrown in, allow Antrim to score, shake hands with them, and walk off the pitch, this is not Antrim fault and both counties and their players have been treated in a diabolical manner by the GAA, for the president to preempt the outcome before the ccc had met on a radio program is despicable.
No apology to either county, really whoever wins on Saturday (another disgrace) that its been played so soon, the real looser here is the players from both counties, ref looses pencil, Hawkeye is broken down, honestly the writers of fr ted wouldn't come up with such a outrageous series of events, and the precious ccc members couldn't get back to Dublin for a emergency meeting on Sunday?
Absolutely disgraceful, .
BTW snapper if we going on refs report from 10, let us not forget that he also Sai he would have awarded a penalty for the multiple fouls on Sheridan too. But hey never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 07/06/2016 19:55:01    1863124

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4 days notice for a replay just demonstrates the contempt that the power that be have for the likes of Meath and Antrim. It's not like there any dependency to have it done so quick other than to get it out of the way so that the gaa can concentrate on the only teams that they think matter.

showforit (Meath) - Posts: 156 - 07/06/2016 20:01:11    1863128

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why the rush to get game replayed ? unfair on both camps, both teams should have been consulted about timing of replay. GAA just want to get it over with and forgotton about. Meath CB should leave it to players to decide if they want to play. How do you get your head right after getting cup and medals only to have them taken away again?

seadog54 (Meath) - Posts: 2151 - 07/06/2016 20:09:29    1863135

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Antrim will run up a cricket score in the replay

32_4_1 (Meath) - Posts: 4122 - 07/06/2016 20:17:38    1863139

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Replying To sponger:  "I wouldnt hand back the cup and I wouldn't be turning up for the replay either."
LOL... well, hand back an all bent up cup with some derogatory graffiti on it recommending to them where to place it...

murrax (Wexford) - Posts: 90 - 07/06/2016 20:24:56    1863144

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Replying To witnof:  "Bloody Meath, can't bring them anywhere. They are like the black sheep of the family in Leinster :):):)

They are our Tyrone, always up to their neck in it ......................even when it's not their fault:):):)"
As Mario Balotelli would say WHY ALWAYS MEath

showforit (Meath) - Posts: 156 - 07/06/2016 20:25:54    1863147

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I do understand the frustration of both teams having do it all again this weekend but it's the right decision and fair is fair. I think the Meath managers statement is nothing short of embarrassing and lacks class and sportsmanship

Pingcity (Longford) - Posts: 568 - 07/06/2016 20:30:04    1863154

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Replying To Pingcity:  "I do understand the frustration of both teams having do it all again this weekend but it's the right decision and fair is fair. I think the Meath managers statement is nothing short of embarrassing and lacks class and sportsmanship"
What did he say?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 07/06/2016 20:33:14    1863160

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Replying To 11jm11:  "Eh hello the game finished as a draw?? why would there not be a replay??"
Meath are being ripped off here. Bang out of order.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 07/06/2016 20:34:07    1863163

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