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Shane Ryan Interview

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Just reading that piece with Shane Ryan on the website.
He makes some strange observations that, to me, show he doesn't really understand the argument he is arguing against.
For starters, nobody ever stated Dublin cant travel - they said they always get to play at home. They are two very different points.
Then he states that this game will 'shut people up'. So a supposed home game for laois getting played at a neutral venue is supposed to shut people up about unfairness? Of course it doesn't. The fact that people think that this represents fairness is even more worrying to be honest. If the roles were reversed, and Dublin had a designated home game against Kerry which was played in cork, would that be fair? Of course not.

(His arguments about the resources of Kerry and Kilkenny, and 'you weren't complaining until we were winning' have long been debunked, so no point going into them again)

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 02/06/2016 10:01:06    1860778

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I dont think Shane Ryan is talking about shutting people up about fairness. I think he's talking more about shutting those up who claim we cant play outside the comfort zones of Croke park.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 02/06/2016 11:15:06    1860820

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Replying To TheMaster:  "Just reading that piece with Shane Ryan on the website.
He makes some strange observations that, to me, show he doesn't really understand the argument he is arguing against.
For starters, nobody ever stated Dublin cant travel - they said they always get to play at home. They are two very different points.
Then he states that this game will 'shut people up'. So a supposed home game for laois getting played at a neutral venue is supposed to shut people up about unfairness? Of course it doesn't. The fact that people think that this represents fairness is even more worrying to be honest. If the roles were reversed, and Dublin had a designated home game against Kerry which was played in cork, would that be fair? Of course not.

(His arguments about the resources of Kerry and Kilkenny, and 'you weren't complaining until we were winning' have long been debunked, so no point going into them again)"
funny ,it hasn't stopped you repeating yourself for years

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 02/06/2016 11:17:57    1860821

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The Master you's played against a pub team last Sunday on your on here going on about fairness haha brilliant.

clondalkindub (Dublin) - Posts: 9926 - 02/06/2016 11:41:45    1860830

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Replying To waynoI:  "I dont think Shane Ryan is talking about shutting people up about fairness. I think he's talking more about shutting those up who claim we cant play outside the comfort zones of Croke park."
But as I said, nobody was claiming that they couldn't do it wayno (they do it regularly enough in the league after all), the point is that they don't have to play away from home while everyone else does.

Like it doesn't seem to occur to him that laois are still playing away from home in this fixture, even though it is supposed to be at home...

You really wonder about the mindset involved where someone would think that this would appease a single person, let alone shut anyone up, be that shane ryan or anyone else.


Damo, you mean comment on poor decisions in the gaa? Do you not do that yourself? Maybe talk about the subject matter instead of crying foul all the time. If Im being unfair on the subject then it shouldn't be an issue for you to highlight that. By all means, do so.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 02/06/2016 11:44:10    1860832

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "The Master you's played against a pub team last Sunday on your on here going on about fairness haha brilliant."
They played against London in Ruislip, with the gate receipts going to London. What's unfair about that?

London are probably at a not too dissimilar level to say, Longford, who Dublin played in their championship opener last year.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 02/06/2016 12:00:56    1860838

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You go on about fairness MAster, and yet our footballers havent played a single home championship game in i dont know how long. All our championship games are played in a neutral venue. Still, We've won 3 all irelands in 5 years.. Still... Very unfair that we cant use our own stadium for league and championship games :/

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 02/06/2016 12:06:03    1860840

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Sure Dubs consider us all culchies and from 'down the country'. They are unable to differentiate what difference it makes between Laois and Kilkenny.. ;)

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9169 - 02/06/2016 12:09:08    1860842

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Dublin aren't proving a point to anyone by playing an extremely rare away game out of Croke Park in Dublin... As for taking cheap shots at Mayo playing London, that's pretty daft; it was hard enough to get Dublin to get out of the capital never mind on a plane to London! And the Leinster Championship isn't up to very much.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 02/06/2016 12:36:59    1860856

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Replying To TheMaster:  "But as I said, nobody was claiming that they couldn't do it wayno (they do it regularly enough in the league after all), the point is that they don't have to play away from home while everyone else does.

Like it doesn't seem to occur to him that laois are still playing away from home in this fixture, even though it is supposed to be at home...

You really wonder about the mindset involved where someone would think that this would appease a single person, let alone shut anyone up, be that shane ryan or anyone else.


Damo, you mean comment on poor decisions in the gaa? Do you not do that yourself? Maybe talk about the subject matter instead of crying foul all the time. If Im being unfair on the subject then it shouldn't be an issue for you to highlight that. By all means, do so."
I was referring to you going on and on and on and on and on and on and on , Everyone and I mean everyone knows were you stand on the Dubs on advantages , I mean how on earth could they not know what alternative Hoganstand planet could they be living on for them not to know were you stand , the problem is you have done this to death a million times .Dressing the pig up in a blanket giving it lipstick doesn't make it a bird.

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 02/06/2016 13:12:14    1860867

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Replying To waynoI:  "I dont think Shane Ryan is talking about shutting people up about fairness. I think he's talking more about shutting those up who claim we cant play outside the comfort zones of Croke park."
Do many people claim that though? We don't know that because Dublin don't play outside of Croke Park.Look they would beat Laois in my back garden,but thats not the point.This game should have been a home game for Laois,would have been great for the town too,better atmosphere etc and maybe a little closer too.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 02/06/2016 13:27:32    1860873

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "Do many people claim that though? We don't know that because Dublin don't play outside of Croke Park.Look they would beat Laois in my back garden,but thats not the point.This game should have been a home game for Laois,would have been great for the town too,better atmosphere etc and maybe a little closer too."
Absolutely chief. But thats not my fault. Or the fault of anyone in Dublin football circles.

You could put the game in Syria and Dubs would travel no questions asked. We're just going where we were told to go.

Unfair n all on Laois as it is, Its not our problem.

waynoI (Dublin) - Posts: 13650 - 02/06/2016 14:04:08    1860887

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I don't know what Shane Ryan is getting when referencing Kerry , Kilkenny & Tyrone with regard to resources.

None of the counties he mentioned received extraordinary proportion of Development Funding or special Irish Sports Council funding over a 10 year period so of course neutral observers weren't 'whinging' because they hadn't any special advantages over the entire rest of the fields they were competing against.

Who said they can't travel? That is absolute nonsense everyone knows they are eons ahead of everyone else only a fool would suggest otherwise and only a bigger fool would think they'd be anyless dominant if they played around the country. It seems Dublin are paranoid about being complacent so former player are trying to find anything to motivate and rile themselves up.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 02/06/2016 14:32:37    1860898

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Replying To waynoI:  "You go on about fairness MAster, and yet our footballers havent played a single home championship game in i dont know how long. All our championship games are played in a neutral venue. Still, We've won 3 all irelands in 5 years.. Still... Very unfair that we cant use our own stadium for league and championship games :/"
This rubbish fools no-one Wayno1. None of you actually believe it.

Breffni40 (Cavan) - Posts: 12133 - 02/06/2016 15:13:43    1860913

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Replying To waynoI:  "Absolutely chief. But thats not my fault. Or the fault of anyone in Dublin football circles.

You could put the game in Syria and Dubs would travel no questions asked. We're just going where we were told to go.

Unfair n all on Laois as it is, Its not our problem."
You would be mad to go to Syria at the moment, there is a civil war and terrorist atrocities taking place on a daily basis. Also, summer temperatures often hit the low forties, not condusive to a high intensity game such as Gaelic Football.
Anyway Syria wouldnt have much of a Gaa tradition so somewhat bemused by your comment.

Horse (Laois) - Posts: 1146 - 02/06/2016 15:40:20    1860922

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Replying To waynoI:  "Absolutely chief. But thats not my fault. Or the fault of anyone in Dublin football circles.

You could put the game in Syria and Dubs would travel no questions asked. We're just going where we were told to go.

Unfair n all on Laois as it is, Its not our problem."
Oh I agree with that,but somebody said it was the fault of the Dubs.Its firmly at the GAA's door.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 02/06/2016 16:28:03    1860940

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Shane Ryan comments are his own, they doesn't represent all Dublin fans.
I agree that saying it will shut people up is strange use of words. Makes no sense.
This game should of been in O MOORE park. Instead we have this farce on Saturday.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 02/06/2016 16:39:06    1860946

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I liked Shane Ryan as a player, thought he gave absolutely everything on the pitch but I think he's looking at this away trip for the Dubs in a very negative light. Instead of worrying about who the Dubs are going to 'shut up' or proving what has already been proved (that Dublin can play outside of Croker, they do it regularly in the League), why not see this a pleasant opportunity for Dublin fans to go on a road trip.

Nothing will be proved on Saturday, Dublin will win their first championship game out of Croker in 10 years, but that shouldn't be used as an excuse to deny their fans more trips down the country during the summer.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 02/06/2016 16:52:49    1860953

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Ok without someone jumping down my neck, can anyone explain the GAA's decision to play this game in KK...a county that does nothing to promote football?
County town's like Portloaise are struggling and Loais are the "home" team so why is it not there?

Aside I see 10,000 tickets still available for the game Sat evening.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11241 - 02/06/2016 17:14:42    1860958

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It is an absolute farce that it's being played in KK.Once again these gombeens have made a balls of a simple task.
Is it any wonder there is little or no possibility of an improved format for the championship when something as straightforward as this is cocked up.I'd imagine it's internal politics in the GAA and perhaps KK are more in the good books than Laois. Bunch of clowns if you ask me.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 02/06/2016 18:59:51    1860988

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