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Just over a week to go now to this match.Once again Down
are on the road, I dread to think how much money the county
board have lost down the years by continually getting hardly
any home Ulster Championship matches!!!

Monaghan go in as massive favourites, they have every right
to fancy their chances. Two Ulster Championships in three
years commands respect.Will this match go to script or can
Down upset the apple cart???

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1618 - 27/05/2016 13:27:52    1859311

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I would LOVE to see Down win this game but I simply cannot see it !

THEMOLE2 (Down) - Posts: 1615 - 27/05/2016 13:40:21    1859318

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Replying To THEMOLE2:  "I would LOVE to see Down win this game but I simply cannot see it !"
Agree theres nothing to indicate any possible way Down will win this game. Monaghan are serious contenders for Ulster again and have best forward in game - it will be one hell of a game between them and Donegal in semi's (don't see any shocks sorry to Fermanagh and Down), cant wait for that one.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 27/05/2016 13:51:52    1859324

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Hard to know. I remember 2 years ago when tyrone needed a last second free to level the game v down in omagh. I think that the ulster championship always has at least 1 shock in it every year. I also think that if there is going to be one in this championship it is this game. The winners of armagh and cavan which I see as very even, will not shock tyrone. Similarly the other fixture (donegal and fermanagh) is not going to surprise anyone.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 27/05/2016 13:53:31    1859326

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Down have always had explosive players who could win them games even when they didn't seem to be going all that well. But I just can't see the same traits in this current group. I'd take Monaghan to win this by 6 plus points.

Lockjaw (Donegal) - Posts: 9171 - 27/05/2016 14:04:22    1859335

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Hard to know. I remember 2 years ago when tyrone needed a last second free to level the game v down in omagh. I think that the ulster championship always has at least 1 shock in it every year. I also think that if there is going to be one in this championship it is this game. The winners of armagh and cavan which I see as very even, will not shock tyrone. Similarly the other fixture (donegal and fermanagh) is not going to surprise anyone."
Agree shocks are part and parcel of UFC but Down have been spiralling downhill even from 2 years ago and even back then they were very average and Tyrone probably totally underestimated them which they seem to do from time to time. Monaghan are reigning champions and will hit the ground running.

IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 27/05/2016 14:13:44    1859340

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Lads down have no chance sorry, there clubs our playing league games every monday and friday and from what i here the county footballers train on a wed night and a sun morning then added that from the start of the league around 10 players have left the panel ( there choice ) down football is not in a great place.
Really hope they win but a very short summer ahead.

Yourjoking (USA) - Posts: 707 - 27/05/2016 14:20:38    1859345

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Replying To Donegalman:  "Hard to know. I remember 2 years ago when tyrone needed a last second free to level the game v down in omagh. I think that the ulster championship always has at least 1 shock in it every year. I also think that if there is going to be one in this championship it is this game. The winners of armagh and cavan which I see as very even, will not shock tyrone. Similarly the other fixture (donegal and fermanagh) is not going to surprise anyone."
Agreed, this one is primed for an upset. Monaghan hate playing as favourites, something in their make-up can't handle the expectation. It happened in 2008 against Fermanagh, and they nearly came unstuck in first round matches Antrim in recent years. The last time these teams met I think Monaghan blew a big half time lead and had no answer to Downs midfield. McKernan is back for Down now and if fit he will tighten the margins.

There is talk that Monaghan have new forwards coming in to take the burden off McManus (an all-time great in my opinion), but then they would say that, wouldn't they?

MadgeKing (Cavan) - Posts: 493 - 27/05/2016 14:23:17    1859346

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It's very hard to see any light coming from Down at the moment. Defeat after defeat in the league is bound to affect moral and Monaghan will be determined to secure a possible meeting with old rivals Donegal. I would not even envisage a run in the back-door for Down. Sad times for a once proud county.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 27/05/2016 15:25:08    1859362

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Down and out it is then.

brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 27/05/2016 16:27:57    1859391

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Replying To Byanthon:  "It's very hard to see any light coming from Down at the moment. Defeat after defeat in the league is bound to affect moral and Monaghan will be determined to secure a possible meeting with old rivals Donegal. I would not even envisage a run in the back-door for Down. Sad times for a once proud county."
Are Donegal already through to the semi-final? They are having a short Ulster series this year, maybe making up for last year.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 27/05/2016 17:13:48    1859411

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Replying To neverright:  "Are Donegal already through to the semi-final? They are having a short Ulster series this year, maybe making up for last year."
No Donegal have still to meet Fermanagh and they're no pushover team. I think my own county won't have any problems against Down. It's a sure one. The most predictable match of the Ulster championship.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 27/05/2016 20:54:19    1859462

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Yeah totally agree with Down not being in good place , going back to Tyrone match 2 years ago , then we had Benny to spring off the bench to steady the ship , unfortunately we have no names like that now to pull games out of the bag for us , but listen we will support the lads in clones and who knows , An Dun Abu

topdownfan (Down) - Posts: 555 - 28/05/2016 10:38:03    1859513

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We have a great record in ulster football under Malachy one defeat in three years have beaten every team in the province in that time bar Derry and of course Down. This match could be a banana skin for us as Down are underdogs with nothing to lose and traditionally we haven't the greatest of records against them so they wont fear us. Crucially through we are at home which should be enough to get us over the line as will be a lot closer than people think.Malachy was trying out New stuff during league trying to inject more pace in the side but mixed results here as we are still unbalanced at midfield and Down will surely target this. McManus hopefully will have a lot more support this summer as even through he is a great player its ridiculous how much we rely upon him for scores. Hearing good things through on that front with young Mcginn ready to step up and some others coming back. The team seems to be in transition this year but still think it will take the eventual Ulster champions to beat them if they do lose in Ulster.

seanie08 (Monaghan) - Posts: 1803 - 28/05/2016 14:00:59    1859558

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Down will be lucky to get within 5 points of Monaghan. They have very few players of real quality and seem to have no pride in the jersey. They will finish this season without a win in a competitive fixture. Good to see Topdownfan commenting on a Down related thread, makes a change from his anti- Tyrone bile. Holding my breath waiting on his daughter (Missdownfanatic) to come on and back up his post.

2setsofrules (Down) - Posts: 99 - 28/05/2016 14:16:13    1859561

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Replying To 2setsofrules:  "Down will be lucky to get within 5 points of Monaghan. They have very few players of real quality and seem to have no pride in the jersey. They will finish this season without a win in a competitive fixture. Good to see Topdownfan commenting on a Down related thread, makes a change from his anti- Tyrone bile. Holding my breath waiting on his daughter (Missdownfanatic) to come on and back up his post."
Who gives you the right to come on saying things like this , to be honest boyo , any chance you might of had , you have no chance now that's for sure !!! You know what I mean by this , move on

topdownfan (Down) - Posts: 555 - 29/05/2016 12:48:11    1859682

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Would predict a Monaghan win by about 6. If down are to cause an upset, who would be the players to lead such a shock as wouldn't be very familiar with their best team despite playing them this year.

RoscoMan (Roscommon) - Posts: 80 - 29/05/2016 13:35:52    1859693

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This current Down squad lacks any real quality to trouble a top side like Monaghan. If we are to pull off a shock then it will be hard, honest graft that will get us over the line, coupled with Monaghan having an off day. In my whole lifetime I would say this is the weakest Down squad we have had. The sad reality is that there are far better footballers playing club football in Down that don't want to commit themselves to the county, for various reasons. As for the game itself, it's very difficult to analysis. Down were brutal in pretty much every game of the league. Out of our depth by a couple of divisions. Thank God we weren't in division 2 as I have no doubt we would've been relegated. I think what I'm trying to say is, I can't make one single argument for Down winning this one, other than Down love a good upset.

Prediction: Monaghan to win in first gear and another short summer for Down in the qualifiers.

MourneArmy (Down) - Posts: 1787 - 29/05/2016 14:09:42    1859701

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Monaghan should win by all form lines but as a previous poster has said we don't handle the tag of favourites well - added to this our historically poor record against Down and this game is by no means the foregone conclusion some previous posters seem to think it is - give me a 1 point win now and I'd take it

Bermuda Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 106 - 31/05/2016 13:00:38    1860228

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Think few people be looking at this game thinking anything but Monaghan win....cant be any more lop sided than games to date though.


See story that Down havnt had home game in championship opener in 17 years,thats not true,2007 last time when Monaghan beat them in Newry. Link below shows that

http://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/football/2007/0610/218844-monaghan/

macca999 (Fermanagh) - Posts: 1099 - 31/05/2016 13:12:47    1860235

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