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Cavan vs Armagh

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Replying To s goldrick:  "this is a very interesting and factually correct article regarding cavan's use of their most talented players, something which I alluded to earlier. let's hope lessons have been learnt.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-statistics-cavan-s-sideways-passing-shows-no-faith-in-talent-1.2660698"
As they say lies, damn lies and statistics.... based on statistics Leicester City should have been fighting relegation not winning the title. Its Tyrone they were playing too, the stats for their regular league games would be very different and they will be different again on Sunday. Against Tyrone the stat of having 11 different scorers and scoring something like 12 times from play is just as telling.

breffni47 (Cavan) - Posts: 34 - 27/05/2016 13:10:09    1859299

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Replying To breffni47:  "
Replying To s goldrick:  "this is a very interesting and factually correct article regarding cavan's use of their most talented players, something which I alluded to earlier. let's hope lessons have been learnt.
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaa-statistics-cavan-s-sideways-passing-shows-no-faith-in-talent-1.2660698"
As they say lies, damn lies and statistics.... based on statistics Leicester City should have been fighting relegation not winning the title. Its Tyrone they were playing too, the stats for their regular league games would be very different and they will be different again on Sunday. Against Tyrone the stat of having 11 different scorers and scoring something like 12 times from play is just as telling."
I would be quite weary of Armagh. They're a different animal in the championship and there's a lot of pride at stake here. Don't think that they will revert to the handbag stuff but the will be well psyched up for this one.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 27/05/2016 13:23:46    1859307

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Cavan to win this one I think.Things are looking up
for the Breffni Blues at the minute.Armagh will give
them a hard battle though.Cavan by four points.

REDANDBLACK30 (Down) - Posts: 1617 - 27/05/2016 13:31:24    1859313

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Long before my time but saw this on the rte website today, great footage of the 1978 championship meeting between Cavan and Armagh:

http://www.rte.ie/archives/2016/0527/791412-armagh-get-breffini-blues-cavan-win/

GallantJohnJoe (Cavan) - Posts: 329 - 27/05/2016 15:57:46    1859383

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My goodness Armagh football has fallen a long distance in such a short time. The Armagh boys look a very demoralised bunch with no real direction or interest. I think Brolly is right. These boys don't look as if they are enjoying playing football. The entire county senior level set up, for all counties, is far too serious and detached now.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9703 - 29/05/2016 16:21:55    1859725

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God this is an awful one-sided game, thank god for the sunshine.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 29/05/2016 16:38:41    1859730

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Replying To Ulsterman:  "My goodness Armagh football has fallen a long distance in such a short time. The Armagh boys look a very demoralised bunch with no real direction or interest. I think Brolly is right. These boys don't look as if they are enjoying playing football. The entire county senior level set up, for all counties, is far too serious and detached now."
Except for Antrim.

paddyogall (Mayo) - Posts: 5110 - 29/05/2016 16:58:40    1859742

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Cavan looked like they enjoyed themselves

McGeeney is a poor manager and looks to be spending most his time in the gym!

He's in better shape compared to a few of his players!

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 29/05/2016 17:27:35    1859755

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Well done to Seanie J today

Excellent performance - very comfortable on the ball, great balance to him and he played very well today, really didn't put a foot wrong and a had a perfect return

Congrats to him

jimbodub (Dublin) - Posts: 20600 - 29/05/2016 17:31:27    1859757

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Replying To jimbodub:  "Also

Well done to Seanie J today

Excellent performance - very comfortable on the ball, great balance to him and he played very well today, really didn't put a foot wrong and a had a perfect return

Congrats to him"
Part of that last post that I did was not mine at all editor.
Anyway I was very disappointed in Armagh today. They look handicapped in some sort of way. It's as if they're been held back.
Cavan played very well but like last Sunday you've got to question the opposition. We are still waiting on a well matched pairing in Ulster championship.
The semi finals should bring the cream to the top.

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 29/05/2016 18:01:07    1859766

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Cavan very impressive today. Tyrone will have a very tough game in a few weeks. Hard to beat a new team to arrive and compete.

Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 29/05/2016 18:27:20    1859773

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Fair play to Cavan! They played well and were fully deserving of the win.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7857 - 29/05/2016 18:43:18    1859776

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Well done Cavan. Looking forward to your semi with Tyrone. Should be a cracker.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 29/05/2016 20:10:31    1859798

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I thought Cavan were good.But impressive? I don't think so.Armagh were very poor,McGeeney has been a county manager for 8 years and has achieved nothing.He needs to go after this years championship.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 29/05/2016 20:21:02    1859799

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Very decent performance by Cavan today, easily the better team who looked like they knew what they were at in comparison to the opposition. Would genuinely love to see our northern neighbours do well this year, their loyal fans and hard working gaels deserve to see success. On a side note I am of the opinion that the supposed aura around McGeeney is well and truly gone. He has had no success of note as a manager and Armagh have regressed under his control. Division 3 football, with due respect to it, is no preperation for Ulster football and judging by what I saw today I don't expect Armagh to make much impact in the qualifiers, I hope they prove me wrong as I've always liked Armagh but I can't see it.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 29/05/2016 20:37:51    1859809

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Very decent performance by Cavan today, easily the better team who looked like they knew what they were at in comparison to the opposition. Would genuinely love to see our northern neighbours do well this year, their loyal fans and hard working gaels deserve to see success. On a side note I am of the opinion that the supposed aura around McGeeney is gone. He has had no success of note as a manager and Armagh have regressed under his control in my own opinion. Division 3 football, with due respect to it, is no preperation for Ulster football and judging by what I saw today I don't expect Armagh to make much impact in the qualifiers, I hope they prove me wrong as I've always liked Armagh but I can't see it.

Richieq (Meath) - Posts: 3734 - 29/05/2016 20:39:23    1859812

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Cavan were the better team -fact
If Armagh scored the penalty who know what may have happened, but this game was won on the sidelines...... Yes Cavan are a superior outfit compared to us.... but what other county drops one of their better players in Michael Mc Kenna only to bring him one went the game is gone.... Courtney in goals .... well enough said, only brought into the panel 3 weeks ago, but Aaron Kernan can't be afforded time off....
Armagh have lacked a plan for the last two yrs .... common tread in the management... best of luck to Cavan but we are poor

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 29/05/2016 20:58:23    1859819

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Replying To ziggy32001:  "I thought Cavan were good.But impressive? I don't think so.Armagh were very poor,McGeeney has been a county manager for 8 years and has achieved nothing.He needs to go after this years championship."
I think the Kildare fans and players would beg to differ. Under McGeeney they were a decent outfit; since he left they have gone into free fall. I don't think Armagh have the players anymore and that's their biggest problem.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9703 - 29/05/2016 21:11:01    1859822

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Great result for Cavan dealing with with the favourites tag can be tough.Felt Armagh were ready to ambush Cavan but they were very poor. Jamie Clarke a big loss.
Cavan are big and physical but a still missing a top quality forward for me.They will give Tyrone plenty of it but I think Tyrone have far to much class up front for Cavan.

salvador (Roscommon) - Posts: 439 - 29/05/2016 21:42:23    1859836

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I was impressed with how Cavan handled the favourites tag yesterday. We were very good for around 45-50 mins but that will not be near enough to overcome Tyrone. I thought Armagh were poor and devoid of ideas up front. Cambell was a real threat but wasn't getting any decent supply for the most part.

I really think it could take something like a win over Tyrone to springboard us to the next level. Maybe a year of division 1 football would aid us in moving on.

Going to be a big ask for us to beat Tyrone. One thing is for sure, there will be a massive Cavan crowd in Clones cheering on our lads.

Reformation (Cavan) - Posts: 356 - 30/05/2016 09:32:36    1859858

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