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Mayo to win in second gear, not winning by a lot as they are geared to peak later in the year. Lots of very very serious problems in Galway. Stories will break & become public knowledge after this game is over. The truth & reality always outs.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 07/06/2016 22:35:51    1863307

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Ah moc will you give it a rest. We know there are structural problems in Galway GAA etc including major debt by the failed hurling centre of excellence fiasco but your posts (largely on the Galway forum) are becoming tiresome at this stage. While some of the points you make have definite merit it is pretty difficult for the players to be listening/reading the negativity around at the moment. In terms of the match of course Galway are serious underdogs but more worrying is the fact that Mayo people from what have heard do not rate Galway currently something I thought I would never witness. Even when we were in our pomp I would have been mindful of the neighbour.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 08/06/2016 14:10:09    1863633

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Expect Mayo to win by as much as they did last year if not more, but I would be happy with a similar performance as last time. I just hope our qualifier luck turns around this time though and we avoid Ulster teams

eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 154 - 08/06/2016 15:42:08    1863697

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Replying To eoghan6688:  "Expect Mayo to win by as much as they did last year if not more, but I would be happy with a similar performance as last time. I just hope our qualifier luck turns around this time though and we avoid Ulster teams"
Based on the last few weeks don't think there's a whole lot to fear from any Ulster qualifier teams. Anyhow our record in the qualifiers against Ulster teams is good in the last few years have beaten Derry & Armagh twice

Fr_Tod_Unctious (Galway) - Posts: 94 - 08/06/2016 16:27:07    1863726

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Kiloughter, therein lies the problem, give it a rest, don't mention it, put it to bed, put it on the back burner, we will talk about it or deal with it again & on & on it goes. Why because nobody wants to take a stance & call it as it is, so what happens, nothing & the status quo remains. Tiresome yeah, it works both ways, I could give you a huge number of examples of died in the wool Gaa people from All Ireland winners at all levels to the ordinary wholehearted club players & officials who are so disillusioned with things & many who now have nothing to do with the Association in their clubs & their county, but my post here would never be published. I never named any player nor criticised them (ironically the players at club level 95% of the Association, locally & nationally have been treated like s#ite) if you read the posts you would see where my criticism was aimed & as most posters have done I tipped Mayo to win. It's ironic how some posters come on here to criticise others points, obviously they are happy with the way everything is run but I refuse to be a cheerleader for the charade responsible for the mess & who only want to silence those who speak out, it's been going on for years. I'm well used to being bad mouthed behind my back but at least what I have had to say is true, the way we were brought up, call it as it is & if others don't like it, tough. As I said the truth & reality always outs.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 08/06/2016 16:33:25    1863732

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Replying To Fr_Tod_Unctious:  "Based on the last few weeks don't think there's a whole lot to fear from any Ulster qualifier teams. Anyhow our record in the qualifiers against Ulster teams is good in the last few years have beaten Derry & Armagh twice"
Yeah we beat them Tod, but we were very fortunate to on both occasions. Any of the five left in the province would probably beat us so we really need to get div 3 or 4 sides and the Leinster losers to get back to the quarters. Hopefully we could go through the front door but I can't see it happening

eoghan6688 (Galway) - Posts: 154 - 08/06/2016 22:18:22    1863935

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Replying To eoghan6688:  "Yeah we beat them Tod, but we were very fortunate to on both occasions. Any of the five left in the province would probably beat us so we really need to get div 3 or 4 sides and the Leinster losers to get back to the quarters. Hopefully we could go through the front door but I can't see it happening"
Was at those games against Armagh/Derry from what I remember we won those games pulling up, would have been up by six or more at stages during the second half of those games.
True we would struggle against Tyrone/Donegal or Monaghan but most teams would tbh

Fr_Tod_Unctious (Galway) - Posts: 94 - 09/06/2016 01:59:00    1863988

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Moc as I said some of the points you make have merit and certainly I would not like to see it wiped under the carpet. However the reality is county convention is very meek on this and until change comes through this structure we will have the same problems every year. The late Galway Gael Pat Egan was the last great Galway GAA visionary and played a huge role in the development of the Loughgeorge football centre of excellence (when centres of excellence were only paper/theory talk) that has now become the County GAA centre of excellence because of the hurling facility fiasco. All teams are suffering as a result. The debt is huge although not the only issue. I certainly agree that the way Connacht rugby have conducted their strategic planning has been impressive and Galway GAA are light years behind. But first and foremost player resourcing and welfare is paramount and priority as after all without their efforts we would not have a product.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1947 - 09/06/2016 11:53:50    1864118

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Replying To Mayoforever:  "Theres a lot being made of Mayo's U-21 success, though this rarely translates on at senior level. Look at Galway for example, imperious winners in 2011 and 2013 and where are they now? Were Roscommon to play Mayo again in u-21 in a rematch of this years Connacht final, its a toss of a coin as to who would win. lts a huge step up to senior level. Mayo havnt a hope of winning the All Ireland as they havnt got enough attacking class and will freeze when the finishing line is in sight, their traditional achilles heel since the 50s. l know as im following them since then."
I'd agree with you last year or for the last 5 years or more in relation to the forward situation,but this year I see something different from their forwards. Aidan O'Shea, Diarmuid O'Connor , Cillian O'Connor are good enough to start on any team in the country . Evan Regan their latest addition has swept under the radar as Mayo's top scorer in the league this year by a country mile (I'm aware cillian was out but none the less).I'm convinced he we shine over both the O'Connors this summer.As well as that loftus lad who could be used as an impact sub , Coen to name another.

Secondly there is a few of the old stock that are key on the bench for 10/ 15/20 mins of a game moran still has that to give as does freeman . Not all stars but good rotational players.

You may have witnessed all of Mayo's september failings but its the first time I think they are ready . A number of the squad has won All-Irelands in minor and u21 level . It only gives belief and confidence . .as for Galway's transition from underage level to senior success you could argue they didn't have the team mayo had already when winning . Mayo are a top 3 team adding u21 winners to that panel , Galway were just about top 8 at the time . Tyrone similarly had a stronger panel before . Cavan and Roscommon less so , but both have improved and i'd believe Mayo's test in Connaught will be against Murtagh/ Creggs with Roscommon. Although I don't see them losing it.

Mayo by 5-8 against Galway

BarryPD (Dublin) - Posts: 34 - 09/06/2016 12:51:30    1864194

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Replying To BarryPD:  "I'd agree with you last year or for the last 5 years or more in relation to the forward situation,but this year I see something different from their forwards. Aidan O'Shea, Diarmuid O'Connor , Cillian O'Connor are good enough to start on any team in the country . Evan Regan their latest addition has swept under the radar as Mayo's top scorer in the league this year by a country mile (I'm aware cillian was out but none the less).I'm convinced he we shine over both the O'Connors this summer.As well as that loftus lad who could be used as an impact sub , Coen to name another.

Secondly there is a few of the old stock that are key on the bench for 10/ 15/20 mins of a game moran still has that to give as does freeman . Not all stars but good rotational players.

You may have witnessed all of Mayo's september failings but its the first time I think they are ready . A number of the squad has won All-Irelands in minor and u21 level . It only gives belief and confidence . .as for Galway's transition from underage level to senior success you could argue they didn't have the team mayo had already when winning . Mayo are a top 3 team adding u21 winners to that panel , Galway were just about top 8 at the time . Tyrone similarly had a stronger panel before . Cavan and Roscommon less so , but both have improved and i'd believe Mayo's test in Connaught will be against Murtagh/ Creggs with Roscommon. Although I don't see them losing it.

Mayo by 5-8 against Galway"
Good point. Mayo's successful U-21's were brought in to supplement a strong team whereas Galways U-21's were expected to be the new senior team. In situations like that U-21's can get discarded prematurely.

Whats interesting in Galway is for all the structural issues mentioned above (which I fully agree with) there are still some seriously talented players being produced but maybe not being polished off to the complete player at senior level. That, as a Galway man, gives me hope that with a little bit of structural reform we could get back to the top table reasonable quickly.

Don't forget Mayo losing to Longford. Where were Donegal a couple of years before winning Sam. They both turned it around to become top teams very quickly because they had natural resources. I think Galway can do that to.....................but someone need to get hold of it!

Mayonman (Galway) - Posts: 1836 - 09/06/2016 15:34:34    1864308

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Replying To Mayonman:  "Good point. Mayo's successful U-21's were brought in to supplement a strong team whereas Galways U-21's were expected to be the new senior team. In situations like that U-21's can get discarded prematurely.

Whats interesting in Galway is for all the structural issues mentioned above (which I fully agree with) there are still some seriously talented players being produced but maybe not being polished off to the complete player at senior level. That, as a Galway man, gives me hope that with a little bit of structural reform we could get back to the top table reasonable quickly.

Don't forget Mayo losing to Longford. Where were Donegal a couple of years before winning Sam. They both turned it around to become top teams very quickly because they had natural resources. I think Galway can do that to.....................but someone need to get hold of it!"
Well I don't see why not , Galway is one of few counties boasts a good football and hurling team ,GAA is strong so it's about growth and restructuring as you say ,etc and that's already happened with the underage coming through but time will tell and continued success is needed at that level to get to a higher level of football . There's no reason they can't get back to where they were ten years ago in Connaught.It would be nice to see a strong Galway/Mayo rivalry again the 90's and early 00's had some cracking games.

BarryPD (Dublin) - Posts: 34 - 09/06/2016 22:04:39    1864498

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don't think mayo will win by more than 17 pts

liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 11/06/2016 13:56:17    1865125

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The Sunday game doesn't give galway much hope

gaillimhboy (Galway) - Posts: 340 - 12/06/2016 20:06:29    1865696

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The Sunday game have it down already as a Mayo Ros final. Numerous times yesterday they were already saying Roscommon would get beaten by Mayo in the final.... Terrible punditry..

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 13/06/2016 08:04:11    1865897

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Replying To Belclare1:  "The Sunday game have it down already as a Mayo Ros final. Numerous times yesterday they were already saying Roscommon would get beaten by Mayo in the final.... Terrible punditry.."
Yeah I agree. Ger Canning and Tommy Carr are just a terrible commentary team or maybe they were just trying to "G" Galway up as Michael Lyster never corrected the lads on post match commentary that their was another semi final this weekend.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11237 - 13/06/2016 09:39:35    1865935

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Replying To Belclare1:  "The Sunday game have it down already as a Mayo Ros final. Numerous times yesterday they were already saying Roscommon would get beaten by Mayo in the final.... Terrible punditry.."
Won't be hard to motivate Galway with all this nonsense. We have enough of a history with them to know they won't lie down. I doubt if Rochford is taking them lightly.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 13/06/2016 09:51:23    1865938

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has anyone seen the sunday game , has no body seen tipp beat cork . This means if that can happen , galway can easily beat mayo . they have the skill and the players to do it

oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 13/06/2016 11:03:07    1866008

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Replying To oakleafersir:  "has anyone seen the sunday game , has no body seen tipp beat cork . This means if that can happen , galway can easily beat mayo . they have the skill and the players to do it"
In hurling maybe.

liner (Mayo) - Posts: 756 - 13/06/2016 19:35:16    1866335

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Replying To liner:  "In hurling maybe."
You can se the match on sky sports if your going like I am , you will see a classic match that will be down in the hisyory books, Galway and Mayo will be a belter of a match

oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 13/06/2016 21:47:24    1866392

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Galway team named, 5 championship newcomers.. will be a tough day at the office for them, but excited with them as they are young and all very good players. Even if we lose to Mayo which i expect we could give the qualifiers a good run..

Belclare1 (Galway) - Posts: 1626 - 15/06/2016 10:01:46    1867045

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