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Galway vs Mayo Hard Battle

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Mayo have to beat London first, which as the matches in 1996 and 2011 showed is not always easy.

That said, I'd definitely have Barry Moran partnering SOS in the middle. Regarding Alan Freeman, did he not get injured in the 2013 final?"
Everyone expects an easy Mayo victory. Galway's weaknesses are highlighted and their chances dismissed. Mayo should win but I have a feeling that this Mayo team have reached their peak and are now in decline, something that is difficult to arrest never mind reverse. If Galway show a bit of self-belief and attack Mayo from the start, we could be in for a big upset.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 25/05/2016 17:27:05    1858593

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While I don't think mayo are going to be as pumped against galway as they would against Dublin or kerry. The rivalry is too strong for them to simply dismiss us as a walkover.We're missing c.Sweeney who saved us from a hammering last year only those who were at the game will realise what a massive impact he made . We need conroy and flynn to put in big performances in the middle of the field to compete. I think mayo will win but I will travel to Castlebar with hope and I hope I'll have a few thousand galway people join me. Our support has been terrible for the last few years . Fair weather fans

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 25/05/2016 18:00:53    1858597

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Replying To neverright:  "Everyone expects an easy Mayo victory. Galway's weaknesses are highlighted and their chances dismissed. Mayo should win but I have a feeling that this Mayo team have reached their peak and are now in decline, something that is difficult to arrest never mind reverse. If Galway show a bit of self-belief and attack Mayo from the start, we could be in for a big upset."
So the Rossies keep telling us- before the league game this season, before last year's Connacht final (which ye didn't reach) and ye were sure that your U-21's were going to hammer us out the gate too. I'd concentrate on beating Sligo if I were you, let us worry about London and Galway on the tougher side of the draw.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 25/05/2016 19:05:51    1858614

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Replying To Gleebo:  "So the Rossies keep telling us- before the league game this season, before last year's Connacht final (which ye didn't reach) and ye were sure that your U-21's were going to hammer us out the gate too. I'd concentrate on beating Sligo if I were you, let us worry about London and Galway on the tougher side of the draw."
Getting worried then I take it. I think we will beat Sligo although it could be tight and then I believe we will give Galway a good game in the final. Well done to your u21 team though.

neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 25/05/2016 19:22:25    1858623

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Fr_Tod_Unctious hits the nail on the head with many of his points. Most people outside the county have a romantic notion of Galway football from the 3 in a row team to the 1998 team & wonderful players such as Ja Fallon, Michael Donnellan, Padraig Joyce etc & rightly so but those days are long gone & what we have in place now is a group of people so entrenched in their views & their agendas that nothing will change. Galway will not beat Mayo & are so far behind making it into the top 5 for many reasons. As a footballing county the standards at all levels, club, county, schools, coaching, administration, finance, support etc is in free fall. On the finance side there is only one positive & that is Pat Mc Donaghs Supermacs sponsorship, a man who sponsors many sports in Galway & gives employment to many. Unfortunately the board have put Galway Gaa millions in debt, a debt that has to have €240,000 per annum to service it. Our structures are a shambles, firstly our club fixtures plan every year is a farce, the latest being a battle fought out between Clonbur & Ballinasloe which is holding up both Intermediate & Junior C'ship. The politics in Galway football is shocking & if you don't play it you will get trampled all over, many just give up & opt out. The standard of the development squads & coaching is shocking. To make myself more aware I studied other counties set ups a few years ago & it's obvious why there up there & why we are where we are. There is NO set structures or plan in place whatsoever, NONE ! No continuity of management, no record keeping, no Development, there is no development of players just a series of cut after cut. There is usually then a place kept open in a squad every year for a fella or fellas coming from soccer who never do the trials & come in at the end ! The level of politics in picking squads is unbelievable & usually results in a lot of fellas who see what goes on deciding not to play at that level again, Look at the story of over 52 lads opting not to play for their county, what does that say about Galway. Once you have seen all aspects of it, most eventually get broken down by all the deceit & politics. I & many others won't be in Castlebar & I would expect that it will be at least 5 to 1 for Mayo in the crowd & the same on the pitch. Mayo are very close to the Holy Grail & will win it in the next year or two. Galway to next win an All Ireland, I'd say another 32 years beckons. When Galway football win the odd minor or U21 title they will justify all their actions & continue on with the same old, same old. Radical outside independent review needed of all structures not like the internal one carried out a few years ago, & implementation of all recommendations is what's needed, otherwise nothing will change. The numbers of people who really care any more is probably the biggest issue facing Galway.

moc.dna (Galway) - Posts: 1212 - 25/05/2016 20:39:04    1858646

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Is Caffrey really our best full back?

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 25/05/2016 21:45:20    1858693

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Replying To neverright:  "Getting worried then I take it. I think we will beat Sligo although it could be tight and then I believe we will give Galway a good game in the final. Well done to your u21 team though."
Not so much- any team that struggles past the might of New York isn't one I'll be losing any sleep over. In any case, lots of football to be played before those two teams can even meet in the championship.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 26/05/2016 10:25:05    1858746

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Replying To Gleebo:  "Mayo have to beat London first, which as the matches in 1996 and 2011 showed is not always easy.

That said, I'd definitely have Barry Moran partnering SOS in the middle. Regarding Alan Freeman, did he not get injured in the 2013 final?"
I don't think Freeman was injured. Cillian wasn't expected to last too long with the shoulder injury and Conroy,who was supposedly "flying" in training, was lined up to come in after 20 mins or so. With Cillian holding up the decision was made to go ahead with the substitution, except Freeman was the one to make way. I think the Dubs were glad to see him go as he was full of confidence after his display against Tyrone and they regarded him as a danger. It probably all made sense at the time but it was one of those decisions that leaves you scratching your head.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 26/05/2016 11:03:29    1858775

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Is Caffrey really our best full back?"
I don't understand why people are always having a go at him. There isnt a full back around who donaghy wouldn't outfield on a one on one basis with good ball coming in to him. The guy is an allstar winner in the position and our best full back by a distance. Get off his back ffs.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 26/05/2016 12:44:56    1858859

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Barry Moran instead of Tom Parsons Why would anyone make that change TP and SOS have been 1 of the best midfield partnerships all year Leave well enough alone

cluichethar (Mayo) - Posts: 454 - 26/05/2016 14:34:43    1858913

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after mayos peformence against London . it really looks like Galway have a very very easy chance to end mayos 6 in a row streak

oakleafersir (Derry) - Posts: 808 - 29/05/2016 21:20:20    1859826

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Replying To Llaw_Gyffes:  "I don't think Freeman was injured. Cillian wasn't expected to last too long with the shoulder injury and Conroy,who was supposedly "flying" in training, was lined up to come in after 20 mins or so. With Cillian holding up the decision was made to go ahead with the substitution, except Freeman was the one to make way. I think the Dubs were glad to see him go as he was full of confidence after his display against Tyrone and they regarded him as a danger. It probably all made sense at the time but it was one of those decisions that leaves you scratching your head."
Did Freeman not have flu ahead of the 2013 final? Almost certain that's what Horan said after. I remember he kicked a close range point early on and ended up on the ground and just lay there face down, looked drained to be fair...

roundball (Tipperary) - Posts: 2514 - 30/05/2016 13:06:01    1859937

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Replying To TheMaster:  "I don't understand why people are always having a go at him. There isnt a full back around who donaghy wouldn't outfield on a one on one basis with good ball coming in to him. The guy is an allstar winner in the position and our best full back by a distance. Get off his back ffs."
Comment noted Master. He rarely inspires me with confidence but he's had a good league so I'll wait and see.

Maigh Eo Abú!

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 30/05/2016 13:18:30    1859944

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Mayo did what they needed to do yesterday Oakleafersir which was to win the game.Result was never in doubt.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 30/05/2016 15:55:01    1860022

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Tom Parsons gives the balance to Mayo that Brian Fenton brings to Dublin, would definitely start him. Barry Moran is in with a shout for starting further up the field but we'll see what happens.

RoscoMan (Roscommon) - Posts: 80 - 30/05/2016 16:08:13    1860032

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moc.dna - great post pretty much sets out what's wrong with Galway GAA both on and off the field.
The way Galway's chances against Mayo were dismissed by Spillane/Dolan/Whelan on The Sunday Game last night tells you how far Galway have slipped back in people's estimation. Even Des Cahill remarked on it.
Well done to Connacht on Saturday, great turnout in Galway yesterday also. Hopefully the Galway CB took note of the crowds of families/kids there too, because they have a serious challenge from rugby coming down the tracks for these kids services in the future.
I'd be extremely worried for the future of hurling but especially football in our once great county

Fr_Tod_Unctious (Galway) - Posts: 94 - 30/05/2016 17:53:14    1860077

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Replying To roundball:  "Did Freeman not have flu ahead of the 2013 final? Almost certain that's what Horan said after. I remember he kicked a close range point early on and ended up on the ground and just lay there face down, looked drained to be fair..."
To be honest I'd be happier if you were right.

Llaw_Gyffes (Mayo) - Posts: 1113 - 30/05/2016 18:27:11    1860098

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Replying To Fr_Tod_Unctious:  "moc.dna - great post pretty much sets out what's wrong with Galway GAA both on and off the field.
The way Galway's chances against Mayo were dismissed by Spillane/Dolan/Whelan on The Sunday Game last night tells you how far Galway have slipped back in people's estimation. Even Des Cahill remarked on it.
Well done to Connacht on Saturday, great turnout in Galway yesterday also. Hopefully the Galway CB took note of the crowds of families/kids there too, because they have a serious challenge from rugby coming down the tracks for these kids services in the future.
I'd be extremely worried for the future of hurling but especially football in our once great county"
Connacht had a great win on Saturday, all sports fans applaud them. Some ofthatteam will eleaving in the closed season, so I wonder if their winning run will continue. The request is only for big games, and is not a takeover.
Regarding Galway vMayo I give Galway a chance, Mayo are going for 6provincial titles in a row,great record, but they could be vulnerable. There is pressure self inflicted, after lastyear's heave against their management team, taking the AI title is a must for this squad.
There are a lot of pitfalls along the way.

thelongridge (Offaly) - Posts: 1747 - 30/05/2016 19:19:09    1860114

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Comment noted Master. He rarely inspires me with confidence but he's had a good league so I'll wait and see.

Maigh Eo Abú!"
There is no vendetta against cafferkey. Suspect under a high ball and has poor positional sense. He may have won an all star but that should never guarantee a starting place, it just shows how little the journalists who pick these awards know about the game. If Mayo can't fix this mess in the full back line which has lost all Irelands the same will happen again this year, no sweeper system will paper over these cracks for a full seventy minutes.

jackmeyhoffer (USA) - Posts: 148 - 30/05/2016 20:44:59    1860135

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Did Freeman not have flu ahead of the 2013 final? Almost certain that's what Horan said after. I remember he kicked a close range point early on and ended up on the ground and just lay there face down, looked drained to be fair...
roundball


You are right roundball, but people seem to block that from all memory these days. As you say, he looked gased after catching one ball. He wasn't making any runs either. It cant be claimed that he was going the same way he was in previous games.


There is no vendetta against cafferkey. Suspect under a high ball and has poor positional sense. He may have won an all star but that should never guarantee a starting place, it just shows how little the journalists who pick these awards know about the game. If Mayo can't fix this mess in the full back line which has lost all Irelands the same will happen again this year, no sweeper system will paper over these cracks for a full seventy minutes.
jackmeyhoffer


He is good under a high ball actually. He has done well on murphy numerous times, coulter, paul conroy, colm o'neill, comer etc - give or take every other top ff under a high ball. The only time he was ever 'suspect' was against donaghy, who is, frankly, better than every defender in the air in a one on one situation. So if that makes him suspect, then Id ask - who isn't suspect? He was also being man-handled by donaghy to be fair to him, and the ref didn't give him a single free in the entire game. He just needed help in the game. The same way Dublin stick paul Flynn back there as a spare man when donaghy is introduced, and just surround him.

It's funny, people blame horan for the freeman thing, which is spurious at best, yet he was far more to blame re donaghy, and it is cafferkey who gets the blame there.

TheMaster (Mayo) - Posts: 16187 - 31/05/2016 12:33:52    1860211

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