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Should Galway GAA offer Pearse stadium to Connacht

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Replying To yew_tree:  "Corinthians is in a relative rural area. The Avivia is in an urban area with hotels, shops, bar's nearby. You need all those to cater for fans. Having Connacht play at Corinthians would be a worng move with a terrible atmosphere. You need Stadium's in urban area's."
It is very usual for stadiums to be that close to city centre as Cardiff is. Cardiff even with its central location has a very poor public transport service which struggles with a big crowd. Why would having to go 10mins on a bus damage the atmostphere then walking 10 mins.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 07/06/2016 19:45:06    1863114

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The Pearse stadium with capacity over 25k is the best place for Connacht. It is near to Salthill. It doesnt have good parking but in Salthill there are car parks. It is a short 10 minute walk from the Salthill promenade.
The reason I keep bringing this up is Galway County board have a debt- and need to clear the debt. They don't seem to be able to organize concerts.

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 08/06/2016 10:49:13    1863456

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Replying To ROS1:  "It is very usual for stadiums to be that close to city centre as Cardiff is. Cardiff even with its central location has a very poor public transport service which struggles with a big crowd. Why would having to go 10mins on a bus damage the atmostphere then walking 10 mins."
It would.....people having to get shuttle bus etc out the N17....anyone who's know's that stretch of road will know what it is like also.

yew_tree (Mayo) - Posts: 11232 - 08/06/2016 12:19:20    1863528

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Why does the stadium have to be a city, there is very poor parking at the sportgrounds and Connacht will always be limited in what the can do in the sportgrounds as the are only a tenant. Obviously you would have a improved bus service if you built a stadium out there and no matter where you build a new stadium around galway city it is going to be a traffic nightmare as the majority of people are going to the game in there cars
ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:461 - 07/06/2016 19:40:21
Because its easier for most people to get to especially visiting supporters. Yes Connacht are limited in Sportsground to an extent but talking about moving out isn't going to happen unless the alternative is in the city and access is easy. Sportsground is perfect venue for games as its so close to eyre square and people can park all over city and walk to game...

It is very usual for stadiums to be that close to city centre as Cardiff is. Cardiff even with its central location has a very poor public transport service which struggles with a big crowd. Why would having to go 10mins on a bus damage the atmostphere then walking 10 mins.
ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:461 - 07/06/2016 19:45:06
Because the traffic around such a venue out in Corinthians would be very dangerous and that road is already dangerous enough. Connacht wont move out of Sportsground as sportsground is city centre, a good pitch

The Pearse stadium with capacity over 25k is the best place for Connacht. It is near to Salthill. It doesnt have good parking but in Salthill there are car parks. It is a short 10 minute walk from the Salthill promenade.
The reason I keep bringing this up is Galway County board have a debt- and need to clear the debt. They don't seem to be able to organize concerts.
galwayford (Galway) - Posts:582 - 08/06/2016 10:49:13
Sportsground is actually the best place for Connacht.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 08/06/2016 12:40:09    1863555

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A couple of points. You cannot be serious about the Corinthians facility. Connacht would be crazy to consider developing that. The predominant support is either city based for work or actually from the city. Of course the support from the county/province has grown but pretty much in proportion with increase in attendances.

Connacht's best option is to continue with their current facility and in the interim renegotiate with the GAA about Pearse Stadium if the situation requires with a big Champions Cup match.

The new motorway will largely only positively impact on North/South traffic (Northwest/Midwest and vice versa). Local commuter traffic will predominantly still use the old N17 as the new motorway will still mean linking onto the M6 before the city if someone travelling from the North or South wants to go into the city.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 08/06/2016 14:21:04    1863640

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If media reports are to be believed the IRFU are prepared to pay a Connacht player around €500000 a year to remain in the country and play for Ireland when he qualifies. Yet any investment in actual facilities in Connacht, which would apparently enable thousands more to go to games, leave a lasting legacy and boost the local economy, will have to be funded entirely by the Connacht branch. It seems a strange way of doing business and demonstrates why the Galway County Board shouldn't be under any pressure to facilitate Connacht rugby if it doesn't suit.

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 08/06/2016 15:13:13    1863681

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soma id say thats more about tying him down in order to play for ireland rather than an investment in connacht, if true it takes him off connacht payroll and frees up more money for connacht, plus you have the knock on effect on younger lads of having great player around, if connacht are investing in stadia -they should do so gradually - go up say 2/3 per time , help cash flow as well. I do think though if team is doing well crowds will come

moving to salthill as great an idea as it is wont happen -personally id have loved if gaelic grounds could have hosted the 2 munster home hcup games in 2004 and 2009, rather than going up to dublin

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 08/06/2016 15:32:14    1863694

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A couple of points. You cannot be serious about the Corinthians facility. Connacht would be crazy to consider developing that. The predominant support is either city based for work or actually from the city. Of course the support from the county/province has grown but pretty much in proportion with increase in attendances.
Connacht's best option is to continue with their current facility and in the interim renegotiate with the GAA about Pearse Stadium if the situation requires with a big Champions Cup match.
The new motorway will largely only positively impact on North/South traffic (Northwest/Midwest and vice versa). Local commuter traffic will predominantly still use the old N17 as the new motorway will still mean linking onto the M6 before the city if someone travelling from the North or South wants to go into the city.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts:885 - 08/06/2016 14:21:04
But the issue with Pearse Stadium is they would have to pay a big rent to use it and would that be worthwhile?
Totally agree on rest...

If media reports are to be believed the IRFU are prepared to pay a Connacht player around €500000 a year to remain in the country and play for Ireland when he qualifies. Yet any investment in actual facilities in Connacht, which would apparently enable thousands more to go to games, leave a lasting legacy and boost the local economy, will have to be funded entirely by the Connacht branch. It seems a strange way of doing business and demonstrates why the Galway County Board shouldn't be under any pressure to facilitate Connacht rugby if it doesn't suit.
Soma (UK) - Posts:1462 - 08/06/2016 15:13:13
The funding for each is completely different both in how its used and where it comes from as well as its impact later on. Connacht don't own the sportsground and sub let the far side of ground off the Greyhound board who let the entire facility off its owners. Connacht cant substantially invest in facilities as they don't own any major facility.
It isn't a strange way of business at all.

soma id say thats more about tying him down in order to play for ireland rather than an investment in connacht, if true it takes him off connacht payroll and frees up more money for connacht, plus you have the knock on effect on younger lads of having great player around, if connacht are investing in stadia -they should do so gradually - go up say 2/3 per time , help cash flow as well. I do think though if team is doing well crowds will come
moving to salthill as great an idea as it is wont happen -personally id have loved if gaelic grounds could have hosted the 2 munster home hcup games in 2004 and 2009, rather than going up to dublin
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:335 - 08/06/2016 15:32:14
How do you propose Connacht to go up 2/3 thousand per time? Where do you put the people bearing in mind the dogs?
Munster wouldn't have been able to use gaelic grounds as it was cheaper in every way to use Dublin and in 2009 in no way would permission have been granted for other stadiums use

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 08/06/2016 17:02:22    1863753

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No matter where you put a stadium in galway it is going to be a traffic nightware, salthill definitely is. If there was somewhere with good public access from the city I don't think it would put to many off going from the city and galway would probably be seen as a town in European terms, if Connacht want to expand then the are going to have to develop there support across not the province.

ros1 (Roscommon) - Posts: 1211 - 08/06/2016 20:20:46    1863854

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No matter where you put a stadium in galway it is going to be a traffic nightware, salthill definitely is. If there was somewhere with good public access from the city I don't think it would put to many off going from the city and galway would probably be seen as a town in European terms, if Connacht want to expand then the are going to have to develop there support across not the province.
ROS1 (Roscommon) - Posts:462 - 08/06/2016 20:20:46
Perhaps but The sportsground if did like Munster do for games in Thomond and had park and ride to help with congestion it would be an issue.
Connacht are developing support across the province but moving league and cup games isn't the answer. Perhaps move a pre season game somewhere but it would be foolish to move a league game

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 08/06/2016 20:42:02    1863871

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "A couple of points. You cannot be serious about the Corinthians facility. Connacht would be crazy to consider developing that. The predominant support is either city based for work or actually from the city. Of course the support from the county/province has grown but pretty much in proportion with increase in attendances.
Connacht's best option is to continue with their current facility and in the interim renegotiate with the GAA about Pearse Stadium if the situation requires with a big Champions Cup match.
The new motorway will largely only positively impact on North/South traffic (Northwest/Midwest and vice versa). Local commuter traffic will predominantly still use the old N17 as the new motorway will still mean linking onto the M6 before the city if someone travelling from the North or South wants to go into the city.
kiloughter (Galway) - Posts:885 - 08/06/2016 14:21:04
But the issue with Pearse Stadium is they would have to pay a big rent to use it and would that be worthwhile?
Totally agree on rest...

If media reports are to be believed the IRFU are prepared to pay a Connacht player around €500000 a year to remain in the country and play for Ireland when he qualifies. Yet any investment in actual facilities in Connacht, which would apparently enable thousands more to go to games, leave a lasting legacy and boost the local economy, will have to be funded entirely by the Connacht branch. It seems a strange way of doing business and demonstrates why the Galway County Board shouldn't be under any pressure to facilitate Connacht rugby if it doesn't suit.
Soma (UK) - Posts:1462 - 08/06/2016 15:13:13
The funding for each is completely different both in how its used and where it comes from as well as its impact later on. Connacht don't own the sportsground and sub let the far side of ground off the Greyhound board who let the entire facility off its owners. Connacht cant substantially invest in facilities as they don't own any major facility.
It isn't a strange way of business at all.

soma id say thats more about tying him down in order to play for ireland rather than an investment in connacht, if true it takes him off connacht payroll and frees up more money for connacht, plus you have the knock on effect on younger lads of having great player around, if connacht are investing in stadia -they should do so gradually - go up say 2/3 per time , help cash flow as well. I do think though if team is doing well crowds will come
moving to salthill as great an idea as it is wont happen -personally id have loved if gaelic grounds could have hosted the 2 munster home hcup games in 2004 and 2009, rather than going up to dublin
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:335 - 08/06/2016 15:32:14
How do you propose Connacht to go up 2/3 thousand per time? Where do you put the people bearing in mind the dogs?
Munster wouldn't have been able to use gaelic grounds as it was cheaper in every way to use Dublin and in 2009 in no way would permission have been granted for other stadiums use"
How do you propose Connacht to go up 2/3 thousand per time? Where do you put the people bearing in mind the dogs?
not proposing anything im just reiterating their vision as outlined below

http://www.the42.ie/connacht-stadium-10000-vision-ruane-2775760-May2016/


whats your proposal?

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 09/06/2016 13:20:23    1864218

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whats your proposal?
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:375 - 09/06/2016 13:20:23
My proposal on what?

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 16/06/2016 20:40:39    1867879

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Replying To ormondbannerman:  "whats your proposal?
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:375 - 09/06/2016 13:20:23
My proposal on what?"
ormondbannerman - on how connacht shall increase their stadium capacity - dont have one myself - would just be conscious that if they too a bit too big they could end up in a bit of financial bother

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 16/06/2016 20:52:35    1867890

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ormond - on how connacht shall increase their stadium capacity - dont have one myself - would just be conscious that if they too a bit too big they could end up in a bit of financial bother
janesboro (Limerick) - Posts:376 - 16/06/2016 20:52:35
Well they have to stay in the Sportsground as the location is too good to move out from. Id look to put a tier of seats on top of the clan stand for a start and then within a few years try and push the dogs out of the sportsground but if that's not feasible. Look to get more permanent seating at college road and bohermore ends that can be taken up and down quite easily to help with the dogs racing. These seating at each end would be covered.

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 17/06/2016 13:52:27    1868178

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come on Galway GAA. Forget about the Soccer and Rugby. Galway footballers and hurlers in action this weekend. Get behind them.
Also Galway county board need ideas to help clear the debt- any ideas anyone?

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 17/06/2016 15:14:05    1868214

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come on Galway GAA. Forget about the Soccer and Rugby. Galway footballers and hurlers in action this weekend. Get behind them.
Also Galway county board need ideas to help clear the debt- any ideas anyone?

galwayford (Galway) - Posts: 2519 - 17/06/2016 15:14:05    1868215

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