Honestly hope Tyrone do well and a different team make it the final, bring them all on again Kerry, Mayo, Tyrone.

Think there will be some unexpected carnage, coming up with a game plan for the Dubs, Tyrone and Donegal - great having varying styles of play for teams to navigate.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 25/05/2016 14:13:42    1858509

border Gael (Monaghan) - Posts: 894 - 25/05/2016 20:19:26    1858640

Reason Tyrone are getting plaudits is because they are first out of the traps in championship in what was hoped to be a decent test and paper never refuses ink, plus they haven't faced Dublin this year , unlike the other top teams so there is a big unknown, which allows for alot of speculation
Remember how hyped Kerry were after the league semifinal, if we hadn't played Kerry in league final this year , can you imagine the eulogies Brolly would be giving them going into championship , now he is slating them.
I admire Mickey Harte and think he is a great coach and he will make sure his team is ready for anyone.
Although Donegal, Monaghan could beat them on the day.
One off championship game if a team gets a run on ye anything could happen.
For Dublin I think our biggest challenge will be Mayo. Although Kerry will always be lurking.

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 25/05/2016 20:32:55    1858644

I would not agree with you border Gael as regards Donegal not being a danger in the forth coming championship. We probably do not know where Donegal are at at the moment. But if they can up their game for the championship then they have the players who can cause Tyrone Dublin Kerry whoever plenty of problems We do not know how many new faces will Rory play in the opening game. I know it's a tricky one but a win would be a massive boost to Donegal and I'd give them a big chance of winning Ulster again
As regards Derry being useless or Tyrone so good then think back to 2013 Ulster final -- were Donegal useless or were Monaghan so good ---- the answer would be --- on that day Donegal were useless and indeed were again v Mayo in the QFinal
But looked what happened the following year, 2014. Even though Monaghan beat us in the Div two final we ended up in the All Ireland final , a game we should have won.
Over the last five years only Donegal Mayo Kerry and Dublin have contested the AI final.
That in my book leaves Donegal as a very experienced , battle hardened team but age may have caught up with some of them yet we have good young players coming through and I'd like to see Ciaran Thompson S mcBrearty C Gillispie E banGallagher getting a chance on the team. It might be a big ask to introduce four newcomers to championship football but eventually we will have to inject new blood.
But don't go too much on last Sunday's game. I see the bookies already have- Tyrone 6/5 for Ulster with Donegal 3/1 Monaghan 9/2

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 25/05/2016 21:56:09    1858698

have to agree AthCliath...Dublin are beatable and can be beaten by 3/4 other teams on a given day.
Obviously it wont be the easiest thing in the world but I would swear there was posts like these in 2014 only for Donegal to come along!
As much as I would love to say Kerry are most primed to beat Dublin, to be honest I think it's Mayo and likely Mayo-Dublin will be the AI Final pairing with Kerry/Tyrone being the beaten finalists but that can all change if there was a shock or 2 in the early rounds of the championship.

woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 26/05/2016 09:56:13    1858732

It's always hard to predict championship form at this time of the year, given how quickly a couple of injuries or suspensions can change things for most teams. Hard to see where all the certainty is coming from regarding Tyrone, though. They're building nicely and have some good prospects coming through from the U-21's, but I think they need to win an Ulster title before we starting touting them for Sam. Impressive as they were in Division Two, there's a big gap between the standard of those sides and the top teams come late summer.

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 26/05/2016 11:05:19    1858777

Maxie Curran ( Donegal assistant manager) says in today's Irish news that people get hysterical about one result, they get carried away with one good day and equally get carried away with one bad day.
After Dublin beat Donegal by 10 points he says a lot of people are of the opinion that Donegal are finished.
Similar sentiments were posted on here about Kerry after the Div 1 Final.
Then on Sunday you had Tyrone and again people going overboard about them. Similar things happened last year with Donegal after beating Armagh. But as people should well know it's not what happened the last day , it's what will happen on the day. How many times have we seen fancied teams turned over ??
I doubt if M Hart and the boys are thinking of the end of September just yet, well they know what's in front of them between now and mid July ( that's if they survive in Ulster) and well they know how hard it is to win the Anglo Celt
The same applies to the other Ulster counties still in the race and indeed us Donegal WANs how too well the traps lying ahead.
But in saying all that I must say Tyrone do look impressive and indeed could well be the best team to challenge for Sam out of Ulster

SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 26/05/2016 20:56:15    1859137

Teams are starting to view Dublin in the same mode as they looked at Kerry for decades, with a massive sense of inferiority and beaten before they take the field. Donegal showed that Dublin could be beaten just as Tyrone and Armagh showed Kerry could be beaten. The reasons I believe Tyrone could give Dublin a game is that 1. They like Croke Park and have no fear there. 2. They have done it before. 3. They will go out with belief and their own game plan. 4. They will really think they can win.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9703 - 26/05/2016 21:38:42    1859163

Laois will keep the scoreline respectable. Dublin to win by 4 or 5 points.

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 28/05/2016 09:14:03    1859494

UM
You say Dublin are beatable, they definitely are. 100%
Mayo are the team that can do it.

Re Tyrone, u say Tyrone could beat Dublin because they have done it.....
When exactly are we talking here? Last time Tyrone beat us, Pillar was the manager......

By that rationale, Meath can beat us........

Only team that can beat Dublin this year, in my honest opinion, is Mayo.
Maybe Kerry.
Not Tyrone

Just an opinion

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 28/05/2016 09:48:38    1859499

The only team that might beat Dublin and it's a massive if, is Dublin.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7346 - 28/05/2016 09:56:23    1859502

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13710 - 28/05/2016 12:51:54    1859546

secretgael (Fermanagh) - Posts: 6 - 28/05/2016 13:14:35    1859554

Thomas Clarke (Tyrone) - Posts: 1002 - 28/05/2016 14:24:31    1859562

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 28/05/2016 14:33:51    1859565

Dublin still and always have that worm of doubt buried deep in there. Nothing like a well drilled defense that can transform into lighting fast attack to frustrate and bring that worm up to the surface.

cjx (Tyrone) - Posts: 270 - 28/05/2016 16:40:20    1859577

Liamwalkinstown (Dublin) - Posts: 8166 - 28/05/2016 18:20:31    1859592

Dublin still and always have that worm of doubt buried deep in there. Nothing like a well drilled defense that can transform into lighting fast attack to frustrate and bring that worm up to the surface.

cjx (Tyrone) - Posts:192 - 28/05/2016 16:40:20 185957

You're living in the past there with that assessment. Dublin are beatable like any team but it will not be because of doubt.
In the past,we have had doubt and that has been a factor but this group has shown that when the chips are down and backs to the wall they produce the goods and have done so repeatedly.They have grasped victory from the jaws of defeat on the bigger days so there's no doubting their ability to get the job done.Tyrone will cause problems for a lot of teams but if they do beat Dublin it will not be because of doubt as many have found out the hard way.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 28/05/2016 18:43:03    1859596

redbomb (Tyrone) - Posts: 167 - 31/05/2016 13:20:32    1860238

Vs Donegal 2013 looked to be a fair bit of doubt in your ranks I believe and the Dublin heads dropped very quick as they looked clueless as to how to stop Donegal when the broke at pace mainly from turn overs and kick outs

redbomb (Tyrone) - Posts:95 - 31/05/2016 13:20:32

That was 2014 vs Donegal ,Dublin have learned a lot from that day, I believe Tyrone have looked fairly clueless since 2008!!

superbluedub (Dublin) - Posts: 2837 - 01/06/2016 17:38:07    1860627