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Replying To perfect10:  "that should have been 2 red cards for the 2 players pulling helmets.hearing ger loughnane saying "it is only a yellow",he must not know anything about the sort of damage to the neck area from indiscriminate twisting of a helmet.
if podge collins was sent off 2 years ago for pulling rossi's faceguard,then so should these 2 have been.....but referee's dont send off players from tipp,kilkenny and cork.....but make an example of everybody else."
Dead right there. Unhelpful comments from Loughnane. The rules are the rules and in this case it is a very good rule. Of course, as you say, the implementation of the rules at intercounty level is very poor - particularly when it comes to the big teams in in the big games.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 22/05/2016 18:41:14    1857428

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Replying To perfect10:  "that should have been 2 red cards for the 2 players pulling helmets.hearing ger loughnane saying "it is only a yellow",he must not know anything about the sort of damage to the neck area from indiscriminate twisting of a helmet.
if podge collins was sent off 2 years ago for pulling rossi's faceguard,then so should these 2 have been.....but referee's dont send off players from tipp,kilkenny and cork.....but make an example of everybody else."
3 of the most high profile sending offs in the past 6 years were Benny Dunne, Shefflin and Pat Horgan, 2 of which were rescinded if memory serves me right!

Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 22/05/2016 19:05:10    1857440

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Replying To Soma:  "3 of the most high profile sending offs in the past 6 years were Benny Dunne, Shefflin and Pat Horgan, 2 of which were rescinded if memory serves me right!"
If they didn't require helmets to begin with...all these rules wouldn't be needed

Too many yellow cards given out...for trivial infractions. The game is becoming too soft

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 22/05/2016 20:00:29    1857466

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Agree there we're to many yellows dished out but it's seriously time for linesmen/umpires to get the finger out and start helping referees make decisions, I didn't even notice the helmet pulling incident until I saw the replay and it happened right on the sideline

Bon (Kildare) - Posts: 1912 - 22/05/2016 20:21:53    1857478

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Its time for the likes of Ger Loughane and Brian Cody to stop promoting dangerous play and saying these hurling men are "men of honour" and this sort of nonsense. Both those players in the faceguard incident should have been sent off.
And if using video evidence a player can be "cited" for an incident, why not use it to help our referees? It would cut out a lot of nasty off the ball play like the Tipp player digging the Cork player in the kidney with the hurl.
Now my own hurling days are sadly behind me but I think 10 years ago people went out to hurl the ball for the most part. Now it is all about laying down a marker, digging with the hurl, riling up the crowd, etc.
And above all, the hurling this weekend has been dire, my own county included!

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 22/05/2016 20:39:18    1857494

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Pinkie I dont think either of those men promoted dangerous play,I heard Brian Cody say he wants his team to play hard bit fair,another thing,if Tommy Walsh was involved in the helmet incident today this thread would be hot with posters condemning him,its very quiet tonight,not too many saying there should have been red cards today.

mooncat (Kilkenny) - Posts: 534 - 22/05/2016 21:43:34    1857538

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Replying To clondalkindub:  "Says the Donegal man hahaha. Rock bottom today for Cork, Tipperary will take a lot of beating."
Says the Donegal man whose system you guys copied and now Tyrone are copying it from Dublin after Dublin copied us.

Donegal_abroad (Donegal) - Posts: 1321 - 23/05/2016 08:54:49    1857575

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Hurling was brutal this weekend but the weather didnt help.

That being said, I think the fact that the weather was so poor only served to save Cork from an even bigger beating.

Tipp were in third gear and no one can judge them on this performance really as Cork were so bad. Dark times for Cork hurling with so little coming true too.

Pickie - on the helmet incident, I dont know what angle you saw it from but from what I saw the Tipp player was more at fault by pulling Coopers helmet whereas Cooper to me seemed to knock off the Tipp lads helmet from the jostling as opposed to pulling it off.

I think Podge Collins is the only one to get done for it so far

LohansRedHelmet (Clare) - Posts: 2490 - 23/05/2016 10:34:07    1857620

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As i suspected beforehand,Tipp's two new men in the half-forward line,McCormack and Curran,failed to score.Yes,they put in a good shift,doing a lot of the donkey work,hooking and blocking and winning hard ball.This is a "must" for all forwards.However,all forwards main aim is to be able to score - i was disappoi ted with these two men in that regard.Forde looked good when he came on for a brief cameo,and sent over a quickfire point.I expect him to start the next day.The worrying thing for Curran and McCormack was they never even looked like scoring.As a forward,that is not good enough and wouldn't be good enough to beat Kilkenny.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 23/05/2016 11:15:02    1857649

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Im not sure if tipp were in third gear.
They went 16-06 up and i was waiting to see what would happen. I was waiting for them to humiliate the rebels, but what happened? They maybe lost focus a bit, and let the rebels back in.
Man for man, id back Tipp against anyone, but you wont win the all Ireland unless youre willing to eat your opponent alive if hes there for the taking. It just seemed to be a lack of ruthlessness on Tipps part, as opposed to not getting out of third gear.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 23/05/2016 11:53:21    1857673

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Full credit to tipp very good side and very worthy winners definetly my tip for the all ireland only tipp can beat themselves as long as they stay focused they wont be shifted.As for cork god what can one say very inept performance did not compete and as bennybunny said we really should have cleared the decks stripped it all back and try a 5 year plan to get back to the top we have 5 or 6 real good hurlers imo but thats not enough,also yesterdays tactics really do have to be questioned we have had a full league campaign to get things right or there abouts but we were no where near yesterday,cork have always had a man on the line who can see things see what way the game is going since o grady has left that type of man has not been replaced.rain is a great leveller but we persisted in short passing instead of first time hurling the cork way low fast ball into the forwards,its back to the drawing board now we could be looking at 4 or 5 weeks more in this competion especially if we draw anyone from munster. in a nutshell fully cheesed off

monkstownrebel1 (Cork) - Posts: 351 - 23/05/2016 12:44:44    1857691

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Replying To cuederocket:  "As i suspected beforehand,Tipp's two new men in the half-forward line,McCormack and Curran,failed to score.Yes,they put in a good shift,doing a lot of the donkey work,hooking and blocking and winning hard ball.This is a "must" for all forwards.However,all forwards main aim is to be able to score - i was disappoi ted with these two men in that regard.Forde looked good when he came on for a brief cameo,and sent over a quickfire point.I expect him to start the next day.The worrying thing for Curran and McCormack was they never even looked like scoring.As a forward,that is not good enough and wouldn't be good enough to beat Kilkenny."
McCormack one a lot of possession and set up scores like a nice one for Brendan Maher.

Curran roamed the same way McMorrow did for Dublin on Saturday night but hadn't the same space to shoot. Forde had two stupid wides to go with his point. I'd rather he set up scores like the two debutants than drive potshots wide.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 23/05/2016 16:33:22    1857837

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Replying To joncarter:  "Im not sure if tipp were in third gear.
They went 16-06 up and i was waiting to see what would happen. I was waiting for them to humiliate the rebels, but what happened? They maybe lost focus a bit, and let the rebels back in.
Man for man, id back Tipp against anyone, but you wont win the all Ireland unless youre willing to eat your opponent alive if hes there for the taking. It just seemed to be a lack of ruthlessness on Tipps part, as opposed to not getting out of third gear."
You only ever post negative things about Tipp. We won by 9 points with our two best forwards coming back after layoffs. It's only May, the weather was woeful, we had four championship debutants, a good day all round for Tipp.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 23/05/2016 16:36:21    1857841

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Only difference between Tipp and Kilkenny at the moment is that Kilkenny would have scored 3 to 4 goals and not give Cork a sniff. I don't want to put a dampner on our win but Limerick will be all guns blazing in 4 weeks time and we'll need to be up for it like we were yesterday.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 23/05/2016 17:20:05    1857869

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Replying To WildPundit:  "Only difference between Tipp and Kilkenny at the moment is that Kilkenny would have scored 3 to 4 goals and not give Cork a sniff. I don't want to put a dampner on our win but Limerick will be all guns blazing in 4 weeks time and we'll need to be up for it like we were yesterday."
Yeah no better team to bring us back to earth with a bang than Limerick.

Hopefully the 2012 (should have beaten us), 2013 and 2014 meetings with Limerick will keep the minds focused. I think one of the players referenced that in the post match interview which was good to see.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 25/05/2016 14:50:44    1858532

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Yeah no better team to bring us back to earth with a bang than Limerick.

Hopefully the 2012 (should have beaten us), 2013 and 2014 meetings with Limerick will keep the minds focused. I think one of the players referenced that in the post match interview which was good to see."
I'd be more more surprised if he (P Maher) didn't reference Limerick in his post game interview.I think the game is in Thurles ; should be a good game.Interesting to see if S Kennedy,McCormack and Curran hold their starting spots.While some have said they were impressed with this trio,like Ger Loughnane in the Star,i wasn't that inpressed with them at all.Forde has to start,for me.B Heffernan will be available again for right half back.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 25/05/2016 15:25:20    1858548

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Only difference between Tipp and Kilkenny at the moment is that Kilkenny would have scored 3 to 4 goals and not give Cork a sniff. I don't want to put a dampner on our win but Limerick will be all guns blazing in 4 weeks time and we'll need to be up for it like we were yesterday.

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts:1142 - 23/05/2016 17:20:05 1857869

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So much for being a close game with cork.
Ye will get tougher tests no doubt but easily better than cork now.

Dubh_linn (Dublin) - Posts: 2312 - 25/05/2016 15:26:21    1858549

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