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Dublin lined up equally as defensively as Donegal at times in that game, as a result of the lesson they learned in 2014. Is it somehow OK if Dublin do it but not OK for Donegal to?
greatpoint (USA) - Posts: 427 - 22/05/2016 15:50:56 1857335 Link 0 |
Really? Don't remember any "Gilroy Out" banners in 2011. Did it happen I wonder. MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 22/05/2016 15:51:16 1857336 Link 0 |
Anyone who finds blanket defending entertaining must wear Y Fronts, string vests, enjoy YR Sauce on everything and still goes to mass. arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4897 - 22/05/2016 16:01:03 1857341 Link 4 |
Whats not entertaining about watching a team break at speed with runners off the shoulder from deep. The speed alone is excellent. I'd much rather watch it then some of the crap i've seen on gaa gold.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/05/2016 16:13:18 1857344 Link 0 |
It was a fairly poor game wexford did not seem to think they could win it and Kildare tried their best to lose it. People can blame the weather conditions. gormdubhgorm (Dublin) - Posts: 990 - 22/05/2016 16:26:07 1857348 Link 0 |
First off, last nights game was very poor, not because it was low scoring, but because it lacked any sense of urgency in the play of either team. AHP (Dublin) - Posts: 323 - 22/05/2016 16:40:57 1857354 Link 1 |
100% agree with this post
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/05/2016 17:04:48 1857371 Link 0 |
Have to agree with you there
woops (Kerry) - Posts: 2073 - 22/05/2016 17:26:43 1857389 Link 0 |
Very well put. There was a sequence of play where Kildare handpassed out of their own backline. 60 seconds later they have reached their half forward line. The ball was punched across the 45 for the next 2 minutes l, zig zagging between midfield and the 50. Then a Wexford interception and there's 14 men in white filing back behind the ball. Complete nonsense. Designed not to beat the top teams but to somehow bore them into only receiving a 9 point beating. Kildare received trimmings from Dublin and Kerry last year from not having the courage to put the hand in, not because they didn't lay out the blanket. Daith (Kildare) - Posts: 1171 - 22/05/2016 17:32:03 1857393 Link 2 |
Kildare pulled off one of the surprise victories of last year when scoring 1-21 in an excellent attacking display against Cork. Playing a defensive game reduces the possibility of a similar victory this year, but also the possibility of them conceding 7 goals in a championship game. That's my problem with many teams defensive tactics, it often seems to be a tactic to reduce the size of defeat rather than increase the number of victories. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 22/05/2016 21:07:57 1857513 Link 1 |
Sat in the Hogan stand enduring this rubbish. A Kildare man behind me described it an constipated football. Not the worst game I've seen but not far off. Wexford didn't believe they could win and Kildare didn't believe they had anyone capable of putting the ball over the bar. Constipated was a good one word description of it. moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 22/05/2016 21:24:46 1857525 Link 0 |
I disagree, I think most sides set up in an attempt to stay close and nick a victory. If you can stay close to a side playing defensively there is always the possibility you can catch them. Keep it under 3 points and theres always a chance the ball will hit the back of the net.
gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/05/2016 21:44:37 1857541 Link 0 |
Puke football in Leinster? surely not!!! MuckrossHead (Donegal) - Posts: 5028 - 23/05/2016 08:08:01 1857561 Link 1 |
The problem with the blanket defence is that if both teams adopt the same tactics then it can lead to a stalemate and poor spectacle. However what are Kildare supposed to do? Their main problem in recent years has been shipping heavy defeats so it makes sense for them to concentrate on their defence. I am sure Cian O'Neill is thinking of a potential clash with Dublin later in the year and settting up his team accordingly. They need to make sure they do not suffer a hammering from Dublin as this just rips the heart out of a team. Green_Gold (Donegal) - Posts: 1876 - 23/05/2016 10:35:32 1857623 Link 0 |
Agree with that. When Jim McG took over your own county they were ultra-defensive at first and not too pleasing on the eye but the system evolved and changed and eventually became not only very effective but good to watch too, a kind of total football approach and with lightning fast counter attacking. Whether this is what the Kildare manager has in mind remains to be seen though. Ultimately games like this won't do much to get people through the turnstiles. And I agree with posters who say that this kind of blanket system shouldn't be used merely as a way to keep the score down. If that's all you're going to do then I don't see the point in showing up at all. Play football and have a go and if you're beaten by a better team so be it. But if it's gone to the stage where you're putting 14 men behind the ball so as to lose by 10 points instead of 20 then you'd have to wonder what's the point at that stage, or what's the mentality of the manager who is setting a team up to play with that approach. aidangalway (Galway) - Posts: 648 - 23/05/2016 14:38:15 1857763 Link 0 |
Every team has to start somewhere. Poor Game, Poor Performance but only thing that matters is the result and they got that. Lets Judge them after the Dublin game and see how far they have come chriscart580 (Meath) - Posts: 376 - 23/05/2016 15:23:49 1857782 Link 0 |
It is a dilemma on what to do. Probably wrong for Kildare just to think of containing Dublin. Wmeath last year set out 'not to get hammered'. Never had a chance to win nor will Kildare doing the same. However if Kildare want to progress and while the system won't stop Dublin, it may get a win against a higher rated team in the qualifiers. To be anyway effective at the system, ye need the games to get it right. A pity for the game as Kildare generally played nice open football but currently lack the players to win big games. poguemahone (Dublin) - Posts: 365 - 23/05/2016 15:51:56 1857807 Link 0 |
When do they play Dublin?
m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1099 - 23/05/2016 16:00:00 1857813 Link 0 |