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Replying To GreenandRed:  "Because it's 2016. The crossroads that we were dancing at are now roundabouts. What language is it that you're posting in?"
I can speak and reply in both languages! I don't go around saying other languages should not be taught in Schools or making fun of other languages. Irish people died at the Crossroads fighting for the right to speak Irish, and they were better people than the thrash hanging around at your Roundabouts today.

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts: 1646 - 29/05/2016 15:27:09    1859715

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Replying To Htaem:  "Well it's simply really, if your parents make sexy time in Ireland and/or you're born in Ireland then you can call yourself Irish, in fact the rules aren't even strict, there's plenty of ways of becoming 'Irish'. However sounds you make with your mouth aren't all that relevant to be honest."
Yeah they call them Plastic Paddy's.. They were having too many good sexy times with the B & Ts, I agree with you there.

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts: 1646 - 29/05/2016 15:29:35    1859717

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Replying To hurlinspuds:  "I must know all of them....?
I must know every lawyer in Ireland or I must know all my thoughts on cork hurling?
Neither statement makes much sense green and red.
If you want to join royal in saying that there are loads of Irish lawyers going around speaking greek during their training then fair enough.

The sad thing is that people are arguing against opening clubs up club facilities for language meetings when I didn't think they would even need permission to use them. My clubhouse is used for lots of community activities that aren't strictly GAA related. The cost of heat and light is offset by doing the community some service. Nobody was arguing to make it compulsory to attend for any GAA member, just open to anyone interested. Royal has still argued against this. His hilarious argument about greek being used more than irish just distracted from the mean spirited attitude he has toward the language as a result of personal experience. He is prejudice against something that isn't even trying to change the things he claims to love about the GAA - purely the sport. His main argument in doing so has been to take swipes at cork hurling forbeing at a low ebb and by claiming that these voluntary events would some how turn kids off GAA. He claimed that GAA was already losing huge numbers to soccer and rugby which may eb true but gave no actual evidence of this. He kept talking about identity and not needing the language to be a true gael. Nobody but him started talking about identity and all that rubbish.
Marlon made a good post talking about education reform. That's crucial to the language in general but for voluntary classes down at the GAA club, I can't see how anyone could be against them. The interest doesn't seem to be there a lot of the time so it shouldn't even be a problem but even still royal speaks against it. I think the answer must be that some cábóg teacher tortured him with Irish verbs when he was 11 and he still has nightmares about this and so he has an ingrained prejudice against the language like so many more. That is exactly why marlon's point is so important. All in all, royal makes bold statements but he really isn't able to back up any arguments except with increasingly outlandish accusations and claims.

Royal, could you ask your daughter if there's a word in greek for "s**te talker" because I think it might be an important phrase for you to know on your holidays."
The only s-ite talker here is you.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 29/05/2016 15:49:46    1859719

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "The only s-ite talker here is you."
Green and Red, I have no come back to such brilliant one-liners. Well done.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 29/05/2016 16:23:03    1859726

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Replying To SAMMYTHEBULL:  "I can speak and reply in both languages! I don't go around saying other languages should not be taught in Schools or making fun of other languages. Irish people died at the Crossroads fighting for the right to speak Irish, and they were better people than the thrash hanging around at your Roundabouts today."
Some of them were better. A different era when people looked out for one another more than they do these days and good manners were commonplace.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 29/05/2016 16:37:39    1859729

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Replying To hurlinspuds:  "Green and Red, I have no come back to such brilliant one-liners. Well done."
You're welcome. Presenting your assumptions off as facts. I was quite impressed with the brevity of your last post considering your previous nauseating efforts.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 29/05/2016 16:41:41    1859733

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Replying To SAMMYTHEBULL:  "Yeah they call them Plastic Paddy's.. They were having too many good sexy times with the B & Ts, I agree with you there."
What's a real Paddy anyway? Is there a test? or a list of criteria? can anyone join or what's the craic?

I thought I was Irish through my DNA but I don't speak Irish or obsess over the B & T's, am I acceptable?

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 29/05/2016 17:02:16    1859743

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Replying To SAMMYTHEBULL:  "Yeah they call them Plastic Paddy's.. They were having too many good sexy times with the B & Ts, I agree with you there."
That kind of talk doesn't help. If there is one generalization you can make about Irish people, its that they won't be bullied into doing something, even speaking their own language. Especially if you're going to bring comparisons with the B+T's into it. I think the decline of Irish post independence has more to do with the state choosing to define our uniqueness via a religion, rather than via our own culture.

If we'd put some of the effort we put into promoting religion, into promoting our culture instead, I think we'd have a far bigger Irish speaking population, and we'd be far more independent and confident people because of it. But that didn't happen, and we took an awful approach to teaching Irish in schools. Any revival of the Irish language, of which I hope there will be, will need to be more independent, and forward thinking.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 29/05/2016 17:19:18    1859750

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Replying To GreenandRed:  "You're welcome. Presenting your assumptions off as facts. I was quite impressed with the brevity of your last post considering your previous nauseating efforts."
What assumptions?

What's with the aggression?
I tried my best to argue the point and have only got insulting one liners back.

Yourself and royal can keep talking about identity and greek and making no sense.

hurlinspuds (Cork) - Posts: 1494 - 29/05/2016 18:08:51    1859770

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Replying To Htaem:  "What's a real Paddy anyway? Is there a test? or a list of criteria? can anyone join or what's the craic?

I thought I was Irish through my DNA but I don't speak Irish or obsess over the B & T's, am I acceptable?"
Sure the Galway people were sent up to Meath in 1935 to teach you how to play Football, Farm, and Speak Irish! You have no excuse..

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts: 1646 - 29/05/2016 20:31:16    1859804

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Sure the Galway people were sent up to Meath in 1935 to teach you how to play Football, Farm, and Speak Irish! You have no excuse..

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts:1292 - 29/05/2016 20:31:16   1859804


What's the excuse for the vast majority in Galway now! Irish and football in decline!

It's a long time since it was all as Gaeilge ó Barna go Carna!

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 29/05/2016 21:06:25    1859821

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Replying To MesAmis:  "Sure the Galway people were sent up to Meath in 1935 to teach you how to play Football, Farm, and Speak Irish! You have no excuse..

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts:1292 - 29/05/2016 20:31:16   1859804


What's the excuse for the vast majority in Galway now! Irish and football in decline!

It's a long time since it was all as Gaeilge ó Barna go Carna!"
We Cant all become full time Professionals like the DUBS.. Galway is a County of Many Talents..Looking Forward to 2020. We embrace all Languages. It is the Hate of the Irish Language in Ireland, that annoys me, it is all ignorance really.

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts: 1646 - 29/05/2016 21:21:13    1859827

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Replying To SAMMYTHEBULL:  "Sure the Galway people were sent up to Meath in 1935 to teach you how to play Football, Farm, and Speak Irish! You have no excuse.."
Ah non sequiturs, ok fair enough, ciúnas bothar cailín bainne.

Htaem (Meath) - Posts: 8657 - 29/05/2016 21:42:02    1859835

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We Cant all become full time Professionals like the DUBS.. Galway is a County of Many Talents..Looking Forward to 2020. We embrace all Languages. It is the Hate of the Irish Language in Ireland, that annoys me, it is all ignorance really.
SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts:1293 - 29/05/2016 21:21:13


Your ignorance of how someone can be Irish and not speak Irish is fairly annoying too.

It's over 1,200 years since Irish born people started not speaking Irish.

There are no fíor ghaeil. We're a mongrel nation of Celt, Viking, Norman, English, Spanish. Embrace your history or ignore it. 'Sé do rogha a chara.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 30/05/2016 10:42:16    1859878

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Replying To SAMMYTHEBULL:  "
Replying To MesAmis:  "Sure the Galway people were sent up to Meath in 1935 to teach you how to play Football, Farm, and Speak Irish! You have no excuse..

SAMMYTHEBULL (Galway) - Posts:1292 - 29/05/2016 20:31:16   1859804


What's the excuse for the vast majority in Galway now! Irish and football in decline!

It's a long time since it was all as Gaeilge ó Barna go Carna!"
We Cant all become full time Professionals like the DUBS.. Galway is a County of Many Talents..Looking Forward to 2020. We embrace all Languages. It is the Hate of the Irish Language in Ireland, that annoys me, it is all ignorance really."
Very few hate the language I reckon Sammy. Some don't have great school memories of Peig Sayers and the modh coinníollach but they probably don't hate it. Having a kind of language fascism, talking about compulsory Irish education, is hardly going to encourage anyone to like the Irish language and culture. There's nothing surer to putting many children off soething than telling them they have to do it. They'll want to rebel against it.

Marlon makes some great points on changing how we learn Irish and being more forward thinking.

GreenandRed (Mayo) - Posts: 7364 - 30/05/2016 11:03:35    1859886

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