There is no mafia!!

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 18/05/2016 17:40:08    1856130

its a bit like the kilkenny minors when you lose soemthing presious permanently you moan and whinge and whinge and moan, then after a while you come to terms with it and you go off and cry
After some time you accept you will never be what you were and you try to start again
after a long time you admit dublin are awesum and you accept defeat
come september realisation will sink in in kilarney and the press will stop asking you why and youll find the press in tryone or mayo instead

heresam (Dublin) - Posts:103 - 18/05/2016 16:29:36

Translation anyone for the above

Kilkenny minors..Tyrone and Mayo press..I wouldnt like to be inside your head for too long but must be interesting at times on a boring day

KY4SAM2015 (Kerry) - Posts: 898 - 18/05/2016 17:40:12    1856131

No discussions on money please. The GAA mafia located in Dublin prefer not to discuss this issue.
The effect of it is that the Dubs with their huge fan base and a winning team are the only show in town. Why would a discussion on money distribution and sponsorship be in any way helpful.
It would be good to see other teams as fit and as powerful as the Dubs play against them, not that they would beat them, but the field of play would be more equal. Preparation gives them a huge advantage simple as that. I'm not denying that they have a serious wealth of talent too.

For example you'd think now that they are so good they wouldn't need 30 times the games development money that other leinster counties get.
Population wise they have less than ten times that of Kildare or Meath, this is not sponsorship money it is redistributed money.
It's all there in the financial report, - it makes no sense, but if you want to discuss it you are begrudging.
Maybe we should wait until they are winning Liam Mccarthy cups before its something to talk about.

jonno (Kildare) - Posts: 260 - 18/05/2016 18:01:16    1856140

No discussions on money please. The GAA mafia located in Dublin prefer not to discuss this issue. The effect of it is that the Dubs with their huge fan base and a winning team are the only show in town. Why would a discussion on money distribution and sponsorship be in any way helpful. It would be good to see other teams as fit and as powerful as the Dubs play against them, not that they would beat them, but the field of play would be more equal. Preparation gives them a huge advantage simple as that. I'm not denying that they have a serious wealth of talent too. For example you'd think now that they are so good they wouldn't need 30 times the games development money that other leinster counties get. Population wise they have less than ten times that of Kildare or Meath, this is not sponsorship money it is redistributed money. It's all there in the financial report, - it makes no sense, but if you want to discuss it you are begrudging. Maybe we should wait until they are winning Liam Mccarthy cups before its something to talk about.

jonno (Kildare) - 18/05/2016 18:01:16

What does that rant have to do about the "Kerry mafia" like the topic of the thread says?

Dubsfan28 (Dublin) - Posts: 2509 - 18/05/2016 20:44:16    1856186

jonno (Kildare) - 18/05/2016 18:01:16

Did Kildare not receive a bailout in the region of a 7 figure sum a few seasons back from the GAA, to help cover the massive debt ran up by the Kieran McGeeney era?

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 18/05/2016 21:12:24    1856198

Quite week , sooner championship kicks into top gear the better , am tired of these Kerry/Dublin threads , really boring .Can understand Nov to March , but like a broken pencil pointless.

Damothedub (Dublin) - Posts: 5193 - 18/05/2016 21:24:03    1856206

Have to be honest, it's great being richer then all the other counties, I know I shouldn't enjoy it, but there I said it.

*Buys new Dublin Jersey for €65.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 18/05/2016 21:26:54    1856209

I think it is ridiculous and unfair to say that money is the only reason that Dublin are dominating however it is reaching to suggest that the money has had no factor in creating the growing chasm between themselves and the rest.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 18/05/2016 21:46:27    1856221

Have to be honest, it's great being richer then all the other counties, I know I shouldn't enjoy it, but there I said it.

*Buys new Dublin Jersey for €65.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts:33 - 18/05/2016 21:26:54

Dublin's richer than London and New York? Who'd a thunk it !?!

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 19/05/2016 08:44:34    1856236

Ok for the kerry guy .
Dublin minors just knocked out KilkeNny in the hurling for the rest of the summer.
talented youths coming up in hurling which will change the landscape of hurling in the future,
then
Kerry struggling to come to terms that they no longer are a force in football and im sure the players from the 70's and 80s would be turning in their graves or rest homes or armchairs if they thought that current kerry management and ex players think its okay to lambast amature players in the game because they are successful, personally i find it disgusting.

Kilkenny tipp and cork have dominated hurling for decades and decades yet nothing was said or done about it. Kilkeeny has the same population as a small suburb in dublin yet churn players out year after year.
you cant buy talent, money helps improving players but doesnt create great players.
thats the result of amature members like me who give up so much of our time to develop kids into players.

dublin have a remarkable team one which they probably never had before probably the best if not one of the best, the only blip being donegal where they were ambushed on the field.
things will change and its up to dublin to find another 30 great players in 5 years time all over again.

we dont swagger, we dont whinge, we dont call other players names, we play good football, and we support a huge amount of kids around the county. Why cant Kerry accept this and move on rather than playing a defensive system that doesnt work, running aged players around a big pitch for 70 minutes, not blooding young players and being tactically naieve,

rant over, hope you got it now buddy

heresam (Dublin) - Posts: 156 - 19/05/2016 09:50:07    1856252

we dont swagger, we dont whinge, we dont call other players names,

Hah that's rich considering the garbage that some of your fellow county posters put up on here on an almost daily basis.

Not a day goes by that some guff about Kerry is posted on here by some smug Dub.

'We don't swagger': Why don't you have a look at what some of them were posting on the Kerry forum after the All-Ireland and League final!

'We don't call other players names': Why don't you put the search words Kieran Donaghy into the search box on this site and see what a cohort of your fellow Dubs call him and other Kerry players on here.

'We don't whinge': Jesus man some of ye are still having a go at Donegal over 2014 on here.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts: 6354 - 19/05/2016 10:09:24    1856258

With all due respect to the Dublin minor hurlers one win against KK changes nothing they have won ELEVEN AI titles in this century alone so I don't think they will be losing sleep over 1 underage loss. Dublin hammered KK in a league final a few years back yet what happened later that year and since? I also know they wouldn't need to pick a Kerryman to fill up their squad.

Secondly, are you seriously suggesting that only in Dublin are there volunteers giving up their free time to work with kids? Explain that because I just dont understand that point. I do know we only have a handful of Kerry GDO's but there are great people working for free in every club.

The idea that Dublin will just 'disappear' once these players retire is laughable and insulting to the 'volunteers' you cite at the start of your piece. Just a quick perusal of underage results shows there are waves and waves of more elite players coming down the tracks.

Regarding your last paragraph and aged players - it's a very simple and obvious explanation. We have a moderate population which is further hindered by mass emigration of young people (both within Ireland and globally) which means we don't have anywhere the number of players capable of producing at the highest level than Dublin does. That's not bitterness it's just a numbers game and unless we happen to develop a Golden Generation (like the late 70's early 80's) that will always be the case.

Our U21's have won 2 of the last 17 Munster titles and lost to Cork , the idea that they could compete with such a juggernaut in front of 80k (mainly hostile) crowd is insane. They'd be destroyed mentally before their IC career even began.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 19/05/2016 10:22:02    1856262

we dont swagger, we dont whinge, we dont call other players names,

Hah that's rich considering the garbage that some of your fellow county posters put up on here on an almost daily basis.

Not a day goes by that some guff about Kerry is posted on here by some smug Dub.

'We don't swagger': Why don't you have a look at what some of them were posting on the Kerry forum after the All-Ireland and League final!

'We don't call other players names': Why don't you put the search words Kieran Donaghy into the search box on this site and see what a cohort of your fellow Dubs call him and other Kerry players on here.

'We don't whinge': Jesus man some of ye are still having a go at Donegal over 2014 on here.

TheHermit (Kerry) - Posts:1390 - 19/05/2016 10:09:24 1

The WE refers to the players and management, i never referred to posters. I was hoping no to go down a futher level to simple text

heresam (Dublin) - Posts: 156 - 19/05/2016 10:49:50    1856275

Regarding your last paragraph and aged players - it's a very simple and obvious explanation. We have a moderate population which is further hindered by mass emigration of young people (both within Ireland and globally) which means we don't have anywhere the number of players capable of producing at the highest level than Dublin does. That's not bitterness it's just a numbers game and unless we happen to develop a Golden Generation (like the late 70's early 80's) that will always be the case.

i refer to kilkenny, i refer to waterford, i refer to clare, i refer to tyrone.
all moderate populations all very succesful counties

heresam (Dublin) - Posts: 156 - 19/05/2016 10:51:51    1856277

Dara O Se was the best midfielder I have ever watched but as an analyst I really would not be a fan myself.

Tomas is my favourite TV analyst - think he's genuine and I hope he's kept on the Sunday Game .

Jim McGuinness , O Se and Horan on Newstalk are all really good.

TheRightStuff (Donegal) - Posts: 1688 - 19/05/2016 11:58:38    1856309

There isn't a Juggernaut in hurling in terms of playing numbers and resources like there is with Dublin in football. I won't crown Tyrone just yet not until the face and conquer the Blue Everest.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts: 816 - 19/05/2016 13:00:32    1856353

"Dublin's richer than London and New York? Who'd a thunk it !?!

Gleebo (Mayo) - 19/05/2016 08:44:34"-_ Gleebo: Dont get me started on their population advantage - something needs to be done.

TheUsername (Dublin) - Posts: 4445 - 19/05/2016 13:30:17    1856372

I think Dara O'Cinnaide is an excellent pundit and presenter on TG4. He is very knowledgeable, well researched and very fair. He was also a cracking player. I know the Irish language is his medium and forte but I'm really surprised he isn't on the Sunday Game or RTE more often.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 19/05/2016 14:28:29    1856401

I think Dara O'Cinnaide is an excellent pundit and presenter on TG4. He is very knowledgeable, well researched and very fair. He was also a cracking player. I know the Irish language is his medium and forte but I'm really surprised he isn't on the Sunday Game or RTE more often.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts:7887 - 19/05/2016 14:28:29

Completely agree. He's definitely one of the fairest going.
Unless it's his own choice I don't know why he doesn't feature elsewhere more.

Superglue (Kerry) - Posts: 1283 - 19/05/2016 14:35:12    1856405

here isn't a Juggernaut in hurling in terms of playing numbers and resources like there is with Dublin in football. I won't crown Tyrone just yet not until the face and conquer the Blue Everest.

KYTitletown (Kerry) - Posts:352 - 19/05/2016 13:00:32 18

lol you think
if you knew the gaa in dublin would never have posted thta, hurling is growing like wildfire in dublin
watch this space

heresam (Dublin) - Posts: 156 - 19/05/2016 15:05:48    1856421