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Replying To GGdub: "Haha so dublin use the blanket defence in practically every game we play..as you say in ulster - catch yourself on..dublin defend well we dont play a blanket defence...think your the one whos new to gaa." I think your very confused about what the blanket defence is. when Dublin need to defend they bring numbers back to smother the threat. that's called using a blanket defence! they also break forward better than any team in the country. but saying they don't use it is ridiculous. SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 22/05/2016 17:44:59 1857401 Link
Replying To OakGael: "Listen folks, the reality is my proud footballing county of Derry is a very average team, we conceded an average of 1-18 over the league campaign. Our form going into this match was nothing short of awful, you cannot gage how good or bad Tyrone are after today, they over ran Derry, won their individual battles and put the scores on the board. We on the other hand had no game plan and no Derry player showed the willingness to grab the game by the scruff of the neck and push the players around him on. it hurts me to say this 'the Derry Jersey has lost its respect within the county'." Couldn't believe the lack of fight in that Derry team today, I can understand the frustration of the Derry support, even I feel cheated as a Tyrone supporter. brendtheredhand (Tyrone) - Posts: 10897 - 22/05/2016 17:55:12 1857405 Link
Very good display by tyrone. They will give any team in the country a very tough game this year. Division 2 has been a good place for them to regroup. I would say we almost certainly will see them in an ulster final. Donegalman (None) - Posts: 3830 - 22/05/2016 18:00:03 1857406 Link
Got this game very wrong as I really thought Derry would have been up for this game. Another thing is this Tyrone's first championship victory in Celtic park. ? But we must ask what is wrong with Derry football. I think it's 1998 since they won an Ulster title and to me they have some work to do to get anywhere in Ulster. They were completely outclassed today Tyrone will be strong favourites now to win Ulster and will be hard to beat. But again today's game was not much good to them so it's hard to know how good they are. Still I would like to see Donegal get a crack at them in the Ulster final and I doubt if the McGees and co will defend as bad as Derry did today. SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 22/05/2016 18:01:06 1857407 Link
Replying To GGdub: "Haha so dublin use the blanket defence in practically every game we play..as you say in ulster - catch yourself on..dublin defend well we dont play a blanket defence...think your the one whos new to gaa." Seriously when was the last time you watched a Dublin game? Cian O'Sullivan sweeps, half forward line drops deep. Usually only 1/2 dubs inside opposition half when not in possession. What the hell would you call that? gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/05/2016 18:05:35 1857413 Link
Derry v Tyrone today reminds me of Armagh v Donegal last year but look how Donegal ended up After that game last year remember what was said and wrote about Donegal. So Tyrone could yet struggle in either the semi final or final Again they might not. But the next few games won't be as handy as today's and they must be due a win over Donegal very soon. I think Donegal / Tyrone have met six times since M Hart took over yet they have won just the once I suppose if Donegal get over Fermanagh and won their semi final and Tyrone keep winning then it would be the Ulster final a lot of people would want to see Who won the minor by the way ? SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts: 1427 - 22/05/2016 18:16:02 1857415 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "Seriously when was the last time you watched a Dublin game? Cian O'Sullivan sweeps, half forward line drops deep. Usually only 1/2 dubs inside opposition half when not in possession. What the hell would you call that?" GotMilk is 100% correct. That is exactly how Dublin play. It's not a criticism either it's just good defence structure. HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 22/05/2016 18:27:01 1857419 Link
Got milk slightly bitter and just doesn't get it - best not to argue with him. Poor execution of blanket - Kildare, Cavan and Fermanagh - proper execution Dubs, Kerry, Mayo, Donegal and indeed Tyrone as evidenced today - speed skill and very easy to watch. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 22/05/2016 18:28:54 1857422 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "Seriously when was the last time you watched a Dublin game? Cian O'Sullivan sweeps, half forward line drops deep. Usually only 1/2 dubs inside opposition half when not in possession. What the hell would you call that?" Dublin dont play a blanket defence crazy to say so..we defend well and tackle even better but do not play a blanket defence...were the most attacking team in the country and thats a fact..why dont you put the question to a forum and see how many people agree with your statement.. GGdub (Dublin) - Posts: 260 - 22/05/2016 18:40:58 1857427 Link
Derry v Tyrone today reminds me of Armagh v Donegal last year but look how Donegal ended up After that game last year remember what was said and wrote about Donegal. So Tyrone could yet struggle in either the semi final or final Again they might not. But the next few games won't be as handy as today's and they must be due a win over Donegal very soon. I think Donegal / Tyrone have met six times since M Hart took over yet they have won just the once I suppose if Donegal get over Fermanagh and won their semi final and Tyrone keep winning then it would be the Ulster final a lot of people would want to see Who won the minor by the way ? SamOnErrigal (Donegal) - Posts:1075 - 22/05/2016 18:16:02 The difference is donegal have plateaued or were maybe on a downward spiral. This is a young fast team and really look to be on an upward cycle. Still early days but haven't been excited about the depth in the squad since 2005 redhanddefender (Tyrone) - Posts: 913 - 22/05/2016 18:49:25 1857435 Link
Surely there were enough good scores and football to talk about in today's game that we don't need to turn this into another anti-Dublin thread. Soma (UK) - Posts: 2630 - 22/05/2016 18:53:37 1857436 Link
Replying To GGdub: "Dublin dont play a blanket defence crazy to say so..we defend well and tackle even better but do not play a blanket defence...were the most attacking team in the country and thats a fact..why dont you put the question to a forum and see how many people agree with your statement.." Take a look at the two posts between mine and yours. Attacking football doesn't mean you don't play with a blanket. High scores does not mean there is no blanket. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/05/2016 19:09:16 1857444 Link
Agree with Soma - all it takes is someone gate crashing thread with negative comments about the better teams - usually from Down, Fermanagh or Meath - as for most GAA fans it's good to see another exciting team enter the competition to compete with Dubs, Kerry et al - it makes for a better championship IMO IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 22/05/2016 19:11:32 1857446 Link
Replying To IrishGael3: "Got milk slightly bitter and just doesn't get it - best not to argue with him. Poor execution of blanket - Kildare, Cavan and Fermanagh - proper execution Dubs, Kerry, Mayo, Donegal and indeed Tyrone as evidenced today - speed skill and very easy to watch." I'm not bitter, I just didn't get what you were saying. Fermanagh have work to do but are definitely well down the line on developing their system. Struggles a bit on bigger pitches but it's still an effective system. Requires buy in from all players and a high level of fitness. They break at speed and it works. In the last 2 years only games Fermanagh have lost are Armagh league final Monaghan usfc semi Dubs ai qf Derry league (second half collapse with weak side) Cavan (shocking performance) Armagh in the league this year (awful performance by ref) So that's only 6 losses in 22 games. It's not bad going. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/05/2016 19:14:14 1857448 Link
Congrats to Tyrone on a big win. Commentator mentioned at one stage that there were 29 players in one half of the field, the Tyrone half. I don't think it would be accurate to call that a 'blanket defence'. That's more like a blanket and a duvet combined. Seriously, is gaelic football moving closer to how rugby is played (minus the formal scrums)? neverright (Roscommon) - Posts: 1648 - 22/05/2016 19:22:34 1857452 Link
Replying To Soma: "Surely there were enough good scores and football to talk about in today's game that we don't need to turn this into another anti-Dublin thread." Whos talking negatively about Dublin? gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/05/2016 19:30:30 1857456 Link
Replying To IrishGael3: "Agree with Soma - all it takes is someone gate crashing thread with negative comments about the better teams - usually from Down, Fermanagh or Meath - as for most GAA fans it's good to see another exciting team enter the competition to compete with Dubs, Kerry et al - it makes for a better championship IMO" Who is gatecrashing the thread talking negatively about Dublin et al? Tyrone are a great side and I love watching them play and have always liked watching them play. Answer me this, are you on the beer at the minute? gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/05/2016 19:33:15 1857457 Link
Replying To gotmilk: "I'm not bitter, I just didn't get what you were saying. Fermanagh have work to do but are definitely well down the line on developing their system. Struggles a bit on bigger pitches but it's still an effective system. Requires buy in from all players and a high level of fitness. They break at speed and it works. In the last 2 years only games Fermanagh have lost are Armagh league final Monaghan usfc semi Dubs ai qf Derry league (second half collapse with weak side) Cavan (shocking performance) Armagh in the league this year (awful performance by ref) So that's only 6 losses in 22 games. It's not bad going." Got milk still not getting what I say - I give up. To the rest I hope to see an exciting championship this year - the Dubs are favourites and on merit - it will be interesting to see what Kerry, Mayo, Donegal, Cork and Tyone come up with to take them on - let the games begin. And to say watching the dubs style of play is the same as what was served up last night by Kildare then I have to I have to question some peoples interpretation of football. IrishGael3 (USA) - Posts: 1092 - 22/05/2016 19:39:44 1857460 Link
Liked Tyrone's set up, Harte has to be commended for tweaking his system over time to suit the new type of players he has. They've really shored up the centre of their defence and protected the full back. Going to be very difficult to get goals against them. Their speed of counter attack was excellent and they chose very wisely when to kick it long or run it up the middle. Derry really played into Tyrone's hands all day. Slow hand passing up the middle, one up runners getting smothered and letting all their players get sucked into Tyrone's half of the field so there was wide open space for Tyrone to counter attack into when they turned over the ball. HighKings (Meath) - Posts: 271 - 22/05/2016 19:49:51 1857462 Link
Replying To IrishGael3: "Got milk still not getting what I say - I give up. To the rest I hope to see an exciting championship this year - the Dubs are favourites and on merit - it will be interesting to see what Kerry, Mayo, Donegal, Cork and Tyone come up with to take them on - let the games begin. And to say watching the dubs style of play is the same as what was served up last night by Kildare then I have to I have to question some peoples interpretation of football." Same gameplan, just a hell of a lot better implemented. This is the first time Kildare have adopted this tactic so it's a work in progress. Perfect example is the contrast between donegal 2011 and 2012. You have to work at the game plan and then fine tune it. Do you remember the dubs against Kerry in 2009? I do and it wasn't pretty. They went back and Gilroy developed a defensive system. In 2010 it was in it's early stages and there were times they weren't great. 2011 it came on a bit more. Last year was the culmination of 5 years work and by god it was good. Out of curiosity are you suggesting that if you aren't going to challenge for an All Ireland you shouldn't have a system? Anyway back to the game. Tyrone were excellent. That is a different Derry side to the one I saw in Celtic park on the last weekend of January. What is going on with the oak leaf men? gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 22/05/2016 19:52:08 1857463 Link