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cuetherocket we all love hurling..best game in the world easily.but.. why dont thousands go to waterford crystal when tipp cork is on? or walsh cup wen dub wex? just to see the game of hurling? its the importance of whats on that counts a lot.id say there will still be 28000 people there sunday at the same time..

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 21/05/2016 12:49:24    1856993

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Yes..Bennybunny might be a bit negative, but his posts are well researched and informative. Everyone is entitled to opinion.
I like Cork and tipp games because I remember the hammerings we got in 1964 and 1965.....really enjoyed the thrashing we gave them in 1969.
It is true that the result on Sunday might not mean much...the qualifier route is also good to try out players (I would give Aidan Walsh a run at full forward)
I just enjoy Cork/Tipp games....2 teams in country i enjoy winning against and Tipp is one of them

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 21/05/2016 15:41:17    1857025

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Ah lads there is way too much negativity here and Ormondebanner hasn't posted. This is typical with Tipp after a defeat, everything is wrong, panel in-fighting etc. Everyone had on authority two years ago that Eoin Kelly would start in goals. Hopefully most of the stuff people are hearing is tall tails.

I like the look of the starting 15. It's very balanced, I'd always be concerned if players are playing out of position just to fit into the team.

Tipp can get thrashed in all challenge matches as long as they do the business in championship.

One thing I am banking on is cork will show up and put on a performance. Like cork won the only match they needed to win in the league and I get the sense they have really knuckled down since in preparation for this match.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 21/05/2016 15:51:25    1857028

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Will be a good place to try out Cork's strategy. Will employ a sweeper (from midfield (Egan) ..2 half forwards (Lawton and Cooper) will drop back...Pat Horgan out in half forward line with Lehane..leaving 2 full forwards...Harnedy and Cadogan
Damien Cahalane will be put on the Tipp dangerman (Seamus Callinan).....that will be the important battle
Defensive Cork team...with a lot of physical players.

Rockies (Cork) - Posts: 947 - 21/05/2016 16:04:41    1857030

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Rockies,if your a Cork hurling supporter,of course you like Cork v Tipp games.Especially the Munster championship.Its in your DNA.Enjoy the game.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 21/05/2016 17:48:51    1857064

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Looking forward to the game tomorrow but must admit i do feel we are up against it yes we have beaten tipp before as underdogs but in this day and age shocks are a rare. i really hope after the game i can wear my shirt with pride one way or the other a real hiding tomorrow could set us back for many years,we have a good forward line but cahalane is a liability and god if callahan gets loose it could be a nightmare,still i will be there roaring us on come on cork

monkstownrebel1 (Cork) - Posts: 351 - 21/05/2016 18:42:43    1857081

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I am not being negative. I am not the one that ruined the format.

Given the 'importance'of the match, this is an opportunity lost for the Cork selectors - I think it is time that we tried Stephen Murphy and Killian Burke in the backs. John Cronin should have started and I would start Will Leahy and Sean O'Donoghue in the forwards. In other words, do what Tipp are doing and hand out debuts. The team picked is, give or take two or three lads, the same team that narrowly lost to Clare in 13 but got hammered in 14 and 15 by Galway and Tipp. The team is scarred from those latter defeats. As i said previously, tomorrow's result matters not an iota - good performance does matter; but from who? I would rather go in to the important matches later on having developed a few new players...

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 21/05/2016 18:43:53    1857082

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Cuetherocket curran has the ability to score no doubt but you're right we just don't have them ball winners there. I'm
Surprised O'Meara hasn't started as he was going well and maybe a player I didn't rate but he gives us something different. The 6 selected are probably too similar. Bonnar doesn't deserve his place in my opinion

tiobraid (Tipperary) - Posts: 4119 - 21/05/2016 20:43:01    1857112

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Replying To cuederocket:  "Your not wrong there tiobraid.If the Tipp half forward line are wiped out M Ryan will be under pressure.Tipp have lacked primary ball winners in the air in the forward line in recent years ; especially the half forwards.I dont remember Dan McCormack winning many high balls in the league.And its one thing winning possession - do Curran and McCormack have the skillset to make good use and trouble the scoreboard?All Kilkenny and Clare forwards are well able to score.You wont be winning any All Irelands with forwards who cant score."
Bennybunny your comments are disgraceful telling supporters to stay at home SHOCKING. monkstownrebel are you going with your downbeat attitude probably not. Not for the first time rockies is the only cork supporter who i believe has any true passion and rockies i agree with your comments where coming in under the radar lovely suits us fine,shocking league performance by the boys but this is the real bread and butter im ready and i know kk will have the boys ready burning bridges behind us no turning back and cue its a jbm quilt not a christy ring quilt get it right lol

blackrockeddie (Cork) - Posts: 160 - 21/05/2016 21:12:43    1857126

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4 debutants for Tipp just shows that we a team very much in transition. Without primary ball winners in the half forward line I don't expect us to b within a score of cork come the end. Off to the game now fingers crossed we show up .

WildPundit (Tipperary) - Posts: 1709 - 22/05/2016 10:30:16    1857194

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Replying To blackrockeddie:  "Bennybunny your comments are disgraceful telling supporters to stay at home SHOCKING. monkstownrebel are you going with your downbeat attitude probably not. Not for the first time rockies is the only cork supporter who i believe has any true passion and rockies i agree with your comments where coming in under the radar lovely suits us fine,shocking league performance by the boys but this is the real bread and butter im ready and i know kk will have the boys ready burning bridges behind us no turning back and cue its a jbm quilt not a christy ring quilt get it right lol"
Don't over react lad. There are plenty of people not going and they don't need me telling them either way. There are club games on around the county today with plenty of passionate Cork GAA people in attendance. I went out to Ballincollig last night for Ballymartle v Grenagh (just for a look - not involved with either) and there were plenty of people out there that had very little interest in today's game - there were of course people that had interest aswell. The point is, today's game has little or no significance. The winner gains no advantage - particularly if the winner is Cork given how or season ended the last two years.

Win or lose today, the judgement day for Cork is going to be in an All-Ireland quarter final or semifinal against a big team in a true knockout championship game. After the hammerings of the last two years, question marks are going to hang over this team until we can prove that we are not psychologically scarred from those defeats? You know that Eddie. Winning Munster is completely irrelevant as we won it just before the Tipp game in 14 and didnt win it last year but got hammered in both. As I said in the last post, today is a lost opportunity in terms of team selection as it looks like we are going to the well with the same group (starting 15 - i am happy to see new subs). That is a pity as there are good young lads on the bench - throwing them in 'that' game in July/August will be risky.

If you are going to the game, enjoy it. I respect your passion for Cork hurling. Cork will play Tipperary in June 30 in the Munster minor hurling semifinal and they will play Limerick two days earlier in the under 21 championship. Both games are in Pairc Ui Rinn. Both games are competitive knockout season defining games. I will be at both of them. Today though - no thanks. Enjoy it though.

bennybunny (Cork) - Posts: 3917 - 22/05/2016 10:51:29    1857200

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Replying To tiobraid:  "Cuetherocket curran has the ability to score no doubt but you're right we just don't have them ball winners there. I'm
Surprised O'Meara hasn't started as he was going well and maybe a player I didn't rate but he gives us something different. The 6 selected are probably too similar. Bonnar doesn't deserve his place in my opinion"
What I like about it too Tiobraid is we have some very experienced players to spring from the bench. That should help if it's a tight match at the end.

I completely agree about O'Meara, reminds me of a young Corbett that management can't seem to use properly. I love the way he ghosts in at the last minute to win a puckout from behind the opposition back. That's incredibly difficult to defend against. Like Corbett too he has explosive pace.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 22/05/2016 14:08:03    1857276

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Replying To bennybunny:  "Don't over react lad. There are plenty of people not going and they don't need me telling them either way. There are club games on around the county today with plenty of passionate Cork GAA people in attendance. I went out to Ballincollig last night for Ballymartle v Grenagh (just for a look - not involved with either) and there were plenty of people out there that had very little interest in today's game - there were of course people that had interest aswell. The point is, today's game has little or no significance. The winner gains no advantage - particularly if the winner is Cork given how or season ended the last two years.

Win or lose today, the judgement day for Cork is going to be in an All-Ireland quarter final or semifinal against a big team in a true knockout championship game. After the hammerings of the last two years, question marks are going to hang over this team until we can prove that we are not psychologically scarred from those defeats? You know that Eddie. Winning Munster is completely irrelevant as we won it just before the Tipp game in 14 and didnt win it last year but got hammered in both. As I said in the last post, today is a lost opportunity in terms of team selection as it looks like we are going to the well with the same group (starting 15 - i am happy to see new subs). That is a pity as there are good young lads on the bench - throwing them in 'that' game in July/August will be risky.

If you are going to the game, enjoy it. I respect your passion for Cork hurling. Cork will play Tipperary in June 30 in the Munster minor hurling semifinal and they will play Limerick two days earlier in the under 21 championship. Both games are in Pairc Ui Rinn. Both games are competitive knockout season defining games. I will be at both of them. Today though - no thanks. Enjoy it though."
Ah Benny there is a lot of negativity there but I see your point all the same. I still think a team should try to win every game they play to create a winning culture.

The minor match on the 20th is extremely important for both sides. Your minors look extremely strong this year.

Killarney.87 (Tipperary) - Posts: 2513 - 22/05/2016 14:11:37    1857278

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Replying To Killarney.87:  "Ah Benny there is a lot of negativity there but I see your point all the same. I still think a team should try to win every game they play to create a winning culture.

The minor match on the 20th is extremely important for both sides. Your minors look extremely strong this year."
i think bennybunny was the lucky one staying at home,his opinions on the importance of the game(29000 attendance) were surely vindicated.no atmosphere cork looking like a junior team with no game plan...tipp went through the motions in 3rd gear...a game to forget with no relevance to later in the year..as loughnanne says real championship hurling only starts in august..the rest is just the gaa gathering money!!

kavvie (Clare) - Posts: 505 - 22/05/2016 18:45:05    1857432

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Tipp were way to good for a poor excuse for a Cork team.The big tests are ahead for Tipp, probably in a Munster final against Clare or Waterford.
They obviously have the players to win McCarthy.

Barnowl94 (Galway) - Posts: 3150 - 23/05/2016 17:04:36    1857862

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cork need to ditch those tactics, and fast! they have some excellent forwards who are living off scraps because of players dropping deep and looking totally unsure of what they are doing back there. Even when they needed to throw caution to the wind and go for it towards the end they still had their sweeper employed deep which was a joke. Tipp cruised to victory without being asked any real questions and it's hard to judge where they're at after that really. they have a really talented squad but they need to show a little more killer instinct in the inside forward line.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2385 - 24/05/2016 09:46:31    1858006

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