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The article re "Opinion: will Westmeath finally get the credit they deserve?" is not accurate in my own opinion. It suggests that nobody gives Westmeath credit for a win. It suggests Wexford had a spanish inquisition into why we were beaten by Westmeath. We have such inquisitions if we are beaten by anyone and at the end of the year we have reviews of the progress the teams have made. It was not just because we lost to Westmeath.
While there is plenty of hurling snobbery in the game, there is also plenty of siege mentality at play as well!

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 26/05/2016 11:09:34    1858783

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Replying To Pinkie:  "The article re "Opinion: will Westmeath finally get the credit they deserve?" is not accurate in my own opinion. It suggests that nobody gives Westmeath credit for a win. It suggests Wexford had a spanish inquisition into why we were beaten by Westmeath. We have such inquisitions if we are beaten by anyone and at the end of the year we have reviews of the progress the teams have made. It was not just because we lost to Westmeath.
While there is plenty of hurling snobbery in the game, there is also plenty of siege mentality at play as well!"
Westmeath didn't complain so can't be thrown in to the siege mentality argument. I think the article was more referencing the fact that when a weaker team beats a traditional power then the focus is usually on why the big team lost rather than praise the winner. Seemed fairly spot on in that regard as far more focus was put on offaly losing to Westmeath in senior this year than the positive option of praising the winning team

Darragh (Westmeath) - Posts: 301 - 26/05/2016 14:20:29    1858901

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Darragh, I deliberately didnt mention Westmeath in the siege mentality. I think they have been a breath of fresh air to Leinster hurling, they are proof that if you get the structures right you can achieve a lot with a lot of hard work. Long may that work continue and it be brought through to senior level.
The only problem is now that the element of surprise is gone from Westmeath. Which is only a good thing, but expectations rise with it.
Question for you, do Westmeath have a seperate hurling and football county board?

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 26/05/2016 15:29:45    1858957

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Anyone know how many Westmeath U21s are on the senior panel?

crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 28/05/2016 09:11:17    1859493

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Replying To crikey:  "Anyone know how many Westmeath U21s are on the senior panel?"
Two of the starting fifteen v Offaly and Kerry Liam Valley and Damage Egerton are under 21s.Mitchell,Shaw,Heeney,Casserly,Mitchell,Clinton and the Doyle twins are on panel

jobber (Westmeath) - Posts: 1459 - 29/05/2016 14:09:33    1859700

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Replying To Pinkie:  "Darragh, I deliberately didnt mention Westmeath in the siege mentality. I think they have been a breath of fresh air to Leinster hurling, they are proof that if you get the structures right you can achieve a lot with a lot of hard work. Long may that work continue and it be brought through to senior level.
The only problem is now that the element of surprise is gone from Westmeath. Which is only a good thing, but expectations rise with it.
Question for you, do Westmeath have a seperate hurling and football county board?"
The county board runs football and hurling.

The club season is structured around football, hurling comes second.
Even in terms of gear for county hurling teams and resources for county teams and development panels

manfromdelmonte (UK) - Posts: 541 - 29/05/2016 17:47:47    1859763

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Replying To crikey:  "Anyone know how many Westmeath U21s are on the senior panel?"
A load of them. I heard their manager on Off The Ball. Something like 20 of the U21's involved with the senior setup

Pinkie (Wexford) - Posts: 4100 - 30/05/2016 12:25:12    1859917

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Replying To manfromdelmonte:  "The county board runs football and hurling.

The club season is structured around football, hurling comes second.
Even in terms of gear for county hurling teams and resources for county teams and development panels"
Typical. If this is the case there is a limit to what they can achieve. I expect they've already hit the glass ceiling. Hurling and football should have separate fully independent boards in every county.

PoolSturgeon (Galway) - Posts: 1904 - 30/05/2016 12:47:21    1859931

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In fairness, the way fixtures are ran in Westmeath it's every 2nd week football, the following week is hurling. This does leave a lot of room for dual players who want to play both. Amazingly, there is only one proper dual club (Delvin) in Westmeath.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 30/05/2016 13:20:37    1859945

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Westmeath county board went out and got Michael Ryan a Munster winning manager with Waterford to lead the senior hurlers . He is assisted by Michael Walshe an all star and all Ireland winner with Kilkenny amongst others. The minors this year were managed by Danny Owens who managed Kilcormac Killoughey to a senior Leinster club title . For a perceived weaker county this doesn't show much lack of ambition or any bias to me . It's true the hurlers have had to fight their corner in the past but that's because there are large parts of the county where no hurling is played .

Jack_Sparrow (Westmeath) - Posts: 1018 - 30/05/2016 15:16:18    1859994

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In fairness, the way fixtures are ran in Westmeath it's every 2nd week football, the following week is hurling. This does leave a lot of room for dual players who want to play both. Amazingly, there is only one proper dual club (Delvin) in Westmeath.

I dunno where your information is coming from but the fixtures are usually done 1 round of hurling then 1 round of football, then a 3 month break then play them all on top of each other.

wd45 (Westmeath) - Posts: 211 - 30/05/2016 15:55:00    1860021

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Replying To wd45:  "In fairness, the way fixtures are ran in Westmeath it's every 2nd week football, the following week is hurling. This does leave a lot of room for dual players who want to play both. Amazingly, there is only one proper dual club (Delvin) in Westmeath.

I dunno where your information is coming from but the fixtures are usually done 1 round of hurling then 1 round of football, then a 3 month break then play them all on top of each other."
Isn't that the same everywhere?

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 30/05/2016 16:52:12    1860055

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Replying To wd45:  "In fairness, the way fixtures are ran in Westmeath it's every 2nd week football, the following week is hurling. This does leave a lot of room for dual players who want to play both. Amazingly, there is only one proper dual club (Delvin) in Westmeath.

I dunno where your information is coming from but the fixtures are usually done 1 round of hurling then 1 round of football, then a 3 month break then play them all on top of each other."
Aren't Delvin two seperate clubs???

double the amount of AI tickets every year to raffle off!!

manfromdelmonte (UK) - Posts: 541 - 30/05/2016 16:52:44    1860057

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Replying To manfromdelmonte:  "Aren't Delvin two seperate clubs???

double the amount of AI tickets every year to raffle off!!"
"Aren't Delvin two seperate clubs???"

No, I don't think so. Delvin is amalgamated with Brownstown hurling (called St. Earnan's) U14 to Minor (not sure about U21).

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 30/05/2016 18:30:12    1860101

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