Ballydallane,i cannot say whether i would or wouldn't.All i know is i think it's a disgrace fixing that game for Nowlan Park,and Laois/Wicklow were shafted(i know Aughrim has capacity issues).It's no big deal.There will be 20,000 Dubs in the stadium,no doubt about that.On the weekend that's in it,though,i think the cats really are having a laugh.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 18/04/2016 20:25:12    1847007

Ros1, most clubs in Kilkenny field football teams, and there are football championships at senior, intermediate, junior and underage level. I am quite certain that the amount of football played in Kilkenny far exceeds the amount of hurling played in most of the counties you're referring to. Absolutely guaranteed. The main problem, as I've outlined earlier in this thread, is that the best club footballers will not make themselves available for the county team. Most of them, even if not involved on a county hurling panel, are usually very good club hurlers, and will not make themselves available for the county football panel as they consider the club hurling more important. I have heard anecdotes of players getting a game for the Kilkenny football team that couldn't even make their club football team. The problem is that good club footballers are happy to see their county team be humiliated and allow lads who aren't as talented as them, but at least have the guts to tog out, take the beatings instead. Ned Quinn has apologised to the minor team but really he needs to put pressure on the clubs to put forward their best available players.

ballydalane (Kilkenny) - Posts: 1246 - 18/04/2016 20:33:49    1847012

Taxi man talk woffle

johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 18/04/2016 20:44:08    1847016

100% correct ballydalane. but it seems no matter how many times this fact is explained people still trot out the same old rubbish, comparing football in kilkenny to hurling in the likes of Cavan. there is absolutely no comparison.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 18/04/2016 21:16:32    1847029

Pinkie that would be putting it mildly .

johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 18/04/2016 21:45:28    1847037

Athcliath we only have thouraghbreds down here

johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 18/04/2016 21:47:28    1847038

Im sure the KK minor hurlers could beat a cavan minor hurling team by a similar scoreline. Would we have the same reaction?. Would we punish Cavan by removing Aogan O Feraghaiil from his role as president because of their disrespect to hurling? Would we ensure that a major hurling match was never to be played in Cavan in case the locals might make a financial return on it?

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 693 - 18/04/2016 21:53:23    1847040

Rosi 1 why was the Connacht championship hurling disbanded , because teams like Roscommen were getting bad beatings its shamefull that there is no Connacht senior hurling championship.

johnwhite12 (Kilkenny) - Posts: 306 - 18/04/2016 21:55:16    1847043

Why are people bringing Cavan and hurling games in Clones into this?

Yes if the Cavan hurlers played minor hurling they would ship a huge beating but the point is theyre not. Theyre not being put into this position by their county board to take this hammering for the sake of a bit of funding going towards hurling. Thats the issue. If Kilkenny dont want to play football i dont see an issue, but dont take the funding for putting in a token gesture and sending lads out to be humiliated. The whole thing was further flamed by Nicky Brennans comments to be honest.

There is no hurling championship games in Clones between the Dubs or anyone, ye know why, because its a stupid idea, they have no interest in hurling up there, there is no need to play a hurling match up there and as a result they dont deserve to reap the rewards of having a big hurling match up there.

Ditto for Kilkenny, thats the point. There is no interest in football down there, no need to play a match down there and Kilkenny doesnt deserve to reap the rewards of having a match down there. And to be honest this isnt an anti Kilkenny thing, they didnt make the choice for the match to be there.

Kilkenny have no interest in football, i dont see any issue with that, they have openly admitted they use the money that should be spent on football elsewhere in the County so as a thank you and a bonues for that approach the GAA decided to give them the benefit of a big pay day for a football game.

Kilkenny having no interest in football is fine in my book, each to their own, they shouldnt be criticised for that, having them benefit from football despite that lack of interest isnt fine.

tearintom (Wexford) - Posts: 1353 - 19/04/2016 08:24:34    1847049

There's a good interview with former Kilkenny hurling goalie (and county footballer) David Herity on this topic:

http://www.balls.ie/gaa/its-not-wrestling-a-lion-david-herity-on-playing-senior-football-for-kilkenny/331063

Gleebo (Mayo) - Posts: 2208 - 19/04/2016 10:06:31    1847077

Im sure the KK minor hurlers could beat a cavan minor hurling team by a similar scoreline.

ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts:325 - 18/04/2016 21:53:23

The thing is. It wouldn't take a good hurling team to defeat Cavan by theat scoreline. A really bad hurling team would beat cavan by that scoreline. Cavan entered a team in the WESTMEATH RESERVE DIVISION 3 league and lost every game. even with all Cavan's best players representing us we would get hammered by the second worst team in the country. you would probably only have 50 or 60 players to pick from in Total. That is a totally different situation to Kilkenny Football. There is plenty of football played in Kilkenny from schools,colleges,and dual clubs , It is just that the best players are never made available to the county. In Cavan people simply don't play hurling.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 19/04/2016 10:29:42    1847092

Goldrick,

That Cavan team entered into the Westmeath league 2 years ago was an U20 Development Squad & they certainly hadn't their strongest team possible team out for any of those matches. I ask you (or anyone else!), have you ever heard of an U20 development squad in GAA before??? This was done solely because Cavan county board, in their hurling wisdom, decided not to enter an U21 team into any competitions because the players were all U20 & therefore "not ready for it". A total cop-out!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 19/04/2016 11:57:08    1847149

Which is worse.

A county that affords almost all it's members a chance to play both codes but only takes one code seriously at inter county level.

or

A county that only takes one code seriously and pays lip service to the other code.

MesAmis (Dublin) - Posts: 13718 - 19/04/2016 13:16:29    1847196

proof if ever there was,you cant master both of them!!!

perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 20/04/2016 08:31:03    1847428

That Cavan team entered into the Westmeath league 2 years ago was an U20 Development Squad & they certainly hadn't their strongest team possible team out for any of those matches. I ask you (or anyone else!), have you ever heard of an U20 development squad in GAA before??? This was done solely because Cavan county board, in their hurling wisdom, decided not to enter an U21 team into any competitions because the players were all U20 & therefore "not ready for it". A total cop-out!

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts:2827 - 19/04/2016 11:57:08 1847

To be fair though, If they weren't ready to compete in the westmeath div 3 , would they have been ready to compete at inter-county under-21 level.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 20/04/2016 08:56:18    1847434

Goldrick,

How do you prepare a young U21 team in any sport? By putting them into the U21 competition this year & hoping it will bring them on for next year. Most of Longford's U21 hurling team last year were minors...we managed to put it up to Donegal for most of the game. Donegal went on to win the 'C' competition last year. By not doing that the previous year the Cavan county board successfully saved money & probably lost players. Bravo.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 20/04/2016 11:42:38    1847552

interesting comments from DJ on this issue

http://www.the42.ie/dj-carey-footballers-apology-2726192-Apr2016/

McFan88 (Limerick) - Posts: 447 - 21/04/2016 09:11:50    1847830

What DJ said is correct - no team should be beaten by that amount.And especially in football,because it is easier to rack up a huge score in hurling.
It also shows that johnhite is talking through his hat saying nobody likes football in Kilkenny.Apparently H Shefflin,J Tyrell, R Power are all good footballers.Former hurling goalkeeper D Herrity togs out for the footballers and DJ obviously likes the game,attending All Ire semi's and finals.Hopefully they can get their house in order because that result is scandalous and i still cant understand how 15 young lads could be so poor.

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 21/04/2016 09:50:17    1847840

They've pulled the team out from the next round...

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 23/04/2016 10:31:58    1848433

Good article with David Herrity:

link

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 23/04/2016 15:37:07    1848492