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Where now for Antrim hurlers?

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bumpernut I could be wrong but I think the lad grew up in Dunloy. Good footballer as well as a good hurler.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 09/04/2016 19:39:44    1843801

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Strong rumours circulating over the weekend that the Ballyduff senior hurling club in North Kerry have approached PJ o Mullain as manager/coach for the year ahead and he seems interested.
It seems a long distance but Jerry Wallis lived in Cork when manager of the Antrim hurlers (funnily enough Wallis managers Ballyduff hurlers aswel).
I can see why PJ would be interested in managing outside of Ulster this year anyway, would be a huge coup for Ballyduff who will be looking to knock current Kerry hurling champions off their throne.
The senior North Kerry hurling clubs in north Kerry attract some big name managers with Anthony Daly, Ciaran Carey, John Meyler and Eamonn Cregan all
Managing different clubs below in the past.
Good luck to PJ with Ballyduff in 2016 is he takes the role.
Who knows we might see Liam Watson in a Kerry jersey in 2017!

Past hurler (None) - Posts: 735 - 11/04/2016 13:23:57    1844269

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Past hurler careful what you wish for.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 11/04/2016 13:50:57    1844285

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Woody Senior was a Loughgiel Man and played all his hurling life for Loughgiel. he married a Dunloy woman and moved to Dunloy. Young Woody has played for his parish (Dunloy) all his life.

Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 11/04/2016 15:06:40    1844322

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cheers lads, had always wondered what the connection was.

As usual a woman is to blame!!

bumpernut (Antrim) - Posts: 1852 - 11/04/2016 15:29:51    1844335

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Antrim starting to build, The best results this weekend from an Antrim GAA perspective came through the underage county development squads where our guests were Kilkenny. The two U14 regional development squads (Casements and Slemish) both narrowly beat our guests, the U15 County Squad had a comprehensive victory over the Cats as did the U16's who I am lead to believe have an 'exceptional' squad. Our minors played both Dublin and Kilkenny U17s with good wins in both matches (playing 35 minutes each way!!) At the same time the Minor Footballers also beating Derry in the Shield is a step forward. The seniors had a good win although they beat Kildare by a similar score in Ballycastle so not sure whether they have moved forward or not. I have said it in the past that when Ciaran Johnston is playing we look much better, he plays with his head up. Great to see the Cushendall lads back, however very sad to see young McKernan leave the squad my opinion is that he is a big loss he stood out in the National League when others failed to show. The Croke Park voodoo remains and you have to go back to Antrim v Dublin in the hurling for an Antrim win and even then Anthony Daly reached us that one on a plate when he was well ahead and made five changes.

Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 25/04/2016 10:46:15    1848959

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while its encouraging to see those underage results, I remember about 10 years ago Antrim clubs like St.John's were blitzing away teams from Kilkenny and Cork etc in U14 Feile tournaments and showing real skill and potential. Some of those lads are on the senior county panel now and are even further away from being competitive with the major hurling counties than the county was 10 years ago. That period between 16 and 20 years of age is a crucial phase of development and our teams have been woeful at this level of so long. Its something that needs major attention if we want a future beyond the Christy Ring cup.

SaffronDon (Antrim) - Posts: 2386 - 25/04/2016 14:29:32    1849197

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If Antrim could win an All-Ireland minor hurling title it would be massive.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 25/04/2016 21:58:19    1849515

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Antrim got to an U21 AI final, beating a very fancied Wexford along the way, so it wasn't all doom and gloom. The problem is repeating that competitiveness year on year.........

bricktop (Down) - Posts: 2503 - 29/04/2016 09:47:06    1850599

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Agree 100% with you Keeper. We have always been there or thereabouts at U14 however the underage squads from the past usually become lazy and don't attend trainings or they are brainwashed by those negative people around them that only see Club Hurling as important. From there it all goes pear shaped. Hopefully that mind set can be broken by the batch of players in the Development Squads.

Brian_Coyote (Antrim) - Posts: 346 - 29/04/2016 10:41:52    1850619

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Absolutely Bricktop. Thing is that having good teams at underage doesn't always mean you will follow it through at the Adult grades. Guys develop and mature at different ages so you always get players who shine at the underage grade but seem to stall then when they reach the crossover. Similarly, you have players who maybe come to the fore when they get out of underage. It's also the age where other things become important in their lives and some either drop off altogether or don't commit to the level which would see them reach their true potential. That's why I think it's dangerous to label either players or individuals too early as playing and starring at underage and playing and starring at Senior level are worlds apart. Of course what it does do is gives you a good foundation to build on but you also have to make sure that the right structures are in place throughout the levels to try and maximise the number who make the transition. Get that right then you will start to move in the right direction.

Offside_Rule (Antrim) - Posts: 4058 - 29/04/2016 10:52:38    1850623

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Disband the entire set-up. That was the most shameful performance I've ever witnessed from an Antrim team in Croke Park. To be 1-9 to 0-3 up against a non-hurling county and go on to lose is disgraceful. Sambo & Woody cheerio and close the door after you.

M Lyster (Antrim) - Posts: 463 - 04/06/2016 19:03:51    1861526

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Replying To M Lyster:  "Disband the entire set-up. That was the most shameful performance I've ever witnessed from an Antrim team in Croke Park. To be 1-9 to 0-3 up against a non-hurling county and go on to lose is disgraceful. Sambo & Woody cheerio and close the door after you."
I knew Antrim hurling was in a poor state but that shambles shows us how far the county has fallen and that is not intended to be disrespectful to Meath whose second half performance deserved it. Once Meath got their toe in the door in the second half you could see Antrim start to physically and mentally melt. They looked slow, ponderous, leggy and unfit. Their skill levels and stick work were embarrassing at times and some of them looked as if they had just picked up a hurl for the first time. The best move Sambo and Woody could have done was bring themselves on because tne players they have are bottlers and not good enough. Antrim hurling is dead in the water and has been for a long time; today vindicated that.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 04/06/2016 19:36:17    1861545

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Cracking game all the same.
In fact we had 3 crackers today.

joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 04/06/2016 19:53:14    1861553

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Replying To M Lyster:  "Disband the entire set-up. That was the most shameful performance I've ever witnessed from an Antrim team in Croke Park. To be 1-9 to 0-3 up against a non-hurling county and go on to lose is disgraceful. Sambo & Woody cheerio and close the door after you."
I don't want to be too unkind but it was obvious some of the Antrim players weren't up to the physical demands of this game. Let's just say a few of them looked as if they were no strangers to a fish supper.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 04/06/2016 20:01:41    1861559

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In my own humble opinion Christy Ring finalists Meath and Antrim along 3rd and 4th from the qualifier group Kerry and Carlow should be entered into a qualifier round against the losing provincial finalists. Carlow and Antrim will both be playing Ring hurling next year. The hurling review committee wanted to raise the profile of the Christy Ring Cup. Allowing it's finalists into the All-Ireland qualifiers might be the next step within the current setup.

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7865 - 04/06/2016 20:24:47    1861575

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Replying To legendzxix:  "In my own humble opinion Christy Ring finalists Meath and Antrim along 3rd and 4th from the qualifier group Kerry and Carlow should be entered into a qualifier round against the losing provincial finalists. Carlow and Antrim will both be playing Ring hurling next year. The hurling review committee wanted to raise the profile of the Christy Ring Cup. Allowing it's finalists into the All-Ireland qualifiers might be the next step within the current setup."
As far as I know, Congress's decision to accept Antrims proposal to have the Christy Ring winners go straight into a Leinster Quarter Final next year, still stands. So, in 2017, the winners of the Christy Ring will go straight into a Leinster QF.
Now, I'm all for the Ring winners going into the qualifiers, but going straight into a quarter final seems off. It means the Ring winners can actually skip over the qualifying group. Effectively, Meath's win today means they will have to top a group potentially featuring any four of the following, to get to a Leinster quarter final: Galway, Westmeath, Offaly, Laois, Kerry. Whereas Antrim will get to the same stage by winning the Christy Ring, which apart from perhaps Carlow, will be a much easier route. So in a funny way, this may work out better for Antrim. Or not, its hard to know.

Marlon_JD (Tipperary) - Posts: 1823 - 04/06/2016 20:52:49    1861590

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Replying To M Lyster:  "Disband the entire set-up. That was the most shameful performance I've ever witnessed from an Antrim team in Croke Park. To be 1-9 to 0-3 up against a non-hurling county and go on to lose is disgraceful. Sambo & Woody cheerio and close the door after you."
Harsh. There was some great play from Antrim at times. They got caught & that can happen.

keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 04/06/2016 21:08:52    1861600

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Replying To keeper7:  "Harsh. There was some great play from Antrim at times. They got caught & that can happen."
Not harsh, the truth. Antrim hurling is an unfunny joke.

Ulsterman (Antrim) - Posts: 9706 - 04/06/2016 21:23:30    1861609

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Disappointed as anyone else. Even more disappointed with the comments from some of my fellow county men on this board. Go hide your heads in shame.

Glensboy (Antrim) - Posts: 290 - 04/06/2016 21:45:25    1861616

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