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There are 24 teams in 1A, 1B, 2A and 2B. I think these divisions should be restructured to three divisions of 8 teams each with 2 up and down between the divisions. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7922 - 27/03/2016 20:30:34 1838269 Link 0 |
There are 24 teams in 1A, 1B, 2A and 2B. I think these divisions should be restructured to three divisions of 8 teams each with 2 up and down between the divisions. ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 27/03/2016 21:50:42 1838310 Link 0 |
Divisions of 8 are they way to go if home and away is out of the question for a 6 team division. Laois were awfull this year and shouldnt be in the same division as Limerick bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 28/03/2016 10:19:26 1838339 Link 0 |
legendzxix (Kerry) crikey (Australia) - Posts: 355 - 28/03/2016 11:39:32 1838368 Link 0 |
Just because you say one team doesn't deserve to be in the same division as another is hardly justification for a change. This type of seductiveness is not the way forward and will mean constantly tweaking it to suit certain teams. The system in place is a good as it has ever been. It also gives teams in 1b an opportunity to play teams in 1a. One thing is for sure the system will never please everyone. ZUL10 (Clare) - Posts: 694 - 28/03/2016 15:23:14 1838458 Link 0 |
No. Divisions of 8 work in gaelic but that doesn't mean they should be in place for hurling. divisions of 6 for top 12 is better rather than divisions of 8. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 28/03/2016 16:34:57 1838484 Link 0 |
I am fully aware that Galway and Cork will be giving out mad upon a relegation to the division of 8 that I have outlined. At the same time that is the nature of a league. Teams should get on with it. Teams cannot be ring-fenced indefinitely. Kerry took some beatings in Division 1B. It has done them no harm. You have to learn from those and not hide. Carlow, Westmeath, Antrim and London fully deserve to be in the Division 2 of 8 that I have outlined. legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7922 - 28/03/2016 16:59:08 1838493 Link 0 |
I think due to the number of competitive teams it's almost impossible to get a formula for the league to suit everybody,I think a 8 team division 1 is worse than the current set up as the getting relegated from that division would be a complete disaster for team who is unfortunate enough to suffer that faith bostonredsox (Wexford) - Posts: 4368 - 28/03/2016 18:36:41 1838535 Link 0 |
When you put it like that Ormo I can't argue with it. I'm inclined to agree with legend on this one. Teams kick up a fus when they get relegated but if they deserve to be playing against the best they shouldn't be getting relegated. Division 1 in the hurling is a shambles. Technically speaking a side could remain in 1b yet win Division 1. It's ridiculous. ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 28/03/2016 20:12:26 1838570 Link 0 |
The National Hurling league is a joke as its currently constituted. Its not even a proper league for gods sake. What league in World sport has 4 teams qualifying for the quarter finals from the 2nd division yet a team 6 positions ahead of them doesnt get in. Explain that to a sports fan outside the Insular environment of GAA and watch the reaction. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 29/03/2016 09:42:50 1838642 Link 0 |
Hold on. The reason the League is currently set up this way was the 4 Divisions of 8 was not working!!!! Why?? Because very quickly the number of meaningless matches meant little competitive hurling. witnof (Dublin) - Posts: 1604 - 29/03/2016 10:09:20 1838652 Link 0 |
No id disagree with your assertion that things are going well. The opposite is infact true. Clare and Limerick are in a division where no team came within one score of beating them. All comprehensive enough victories. bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 29/03/2016 12:27:50 1838746 Link 0 |
Ormo how is the massacre that wexford and offaly are going to receive good for the game? Cork could be relegated to 1b, they could lose two games, finish fourth in 1b (making them the 10th best side in the country in the league) yet still go on and win division 1. It's ridiculous and is not a proper league. gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 29/03/2016 13:04:46 1838772 Link 0 |
perfect10 (Wexford) - Posts: 3929 - 29/03/2016 14:08:16 1838816 Link 0 |
A 6 team top tier in hurling has added a cut throat dimension to the league that wasnt there before. joncarter (Galway) - Posts: 2692 - 29/03/2016 15:29:04 1838865 Link 0 |
I'd be for 2 up/ 2 down - but the divisions would have to increase in size to say 10 or 12, but with a 6-match schedule (3 home, 3 away). omahant (USA) - Posts: 2644 - 29/03/2016 15:41:13 1838884 Link 0 |
There were 3 divisions of 8 teams each with 2 promoted and 2 relegated all through the 80s and it worked perfectly well. Most of the top teams spent at least one year in division 2 during that era and relegation was never regarded as the end of the world then like it is now. Teams like Antrim and Westmeath steadily improved a little bit each year to the point where they eventually won promotion to division 1. This is a goal that a team like Kerry could aspire to in the long term if we had this system in place now. Gaillimh_Abu (Galway) - Posts: 998 - 29/03/2016 17:40:47 1838971 Link 0 |
The proof of the pudding is in the eating. The league's importance had declined in the old '8 team per division' system - it's way more competitive now. While I don't agree with the relegation playoff setup, Kerry were a mere puck-of-a-ball away from a National League quarter-final place. keeper7 (Longford) - Posts: 4088 - 29/03/2016 18:28:12 1839001 Link 0 |
If it did change to 8 teams per divisions, then every 2nd year 2 new teams would get to see if they could survive Division one. m_the_d (None) - Posts: 1099 - 29/03/2016 18:30:16 1839004 Link 0 |
Waterford went up last year and they stayed up so your argument is like a rusty bucket. It doesnt hold any H2O bloodyban (Limerick) - Posts: 1710 - 29/03/2016 19:24:47 1839027 Link 0 |