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Time to do away with the provincials dahayser.

Leinster and Munster are both dying a slow death now.

daytona11 (Kildare) - Posts: 4012 - 11/07/2016 10:32:45    1880712

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26k for a munster final and 15k for saturdays thurles triple header - is shocking - admission prices need to be reduced now in order to increase crowds make it €20 for stand and €10 for terrance, under 16s free into all games and €10 for all qualifiers, try it for a season and get the crowds in

janesboro (Limerick) - Posts: 1502 - 11/07/2016 11:37:45    1880781

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Replying To janesboro:  "26k for a munster final and 15k for saturdays thurles triple header - is shocking - admission prices need to be reduced now in order to increase crowds make it €20 for stand and €10 for terrance, under 16s free into all games and €10 for all qualifiers, try it for a season and get the crowds in"
I don't think admission prices had much to do with the Saturday night attendance to be honest. Apart from Clare I think you had 3 counties who knew they were going no where.

I have gone to most of Corks league games and the 2 previous championship games this year but I couldn't be bothered travelling to this. I just knew there was no chance this team would give the AI a rattle. Best case was a win and a hiding in the next round. I'd say a lot of people felt the same.

dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 338 - 11/07/2016 14:18:34    1880960

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I said it when was announced that garlic grounds was venue the crowd would be well down. For me it was ridiculous bringing the game there as ment an extra long journey for all and all because agraod to have tipp home advantage haha sure it couldn't have gone better for tipp in thurles than how it played out yesterday.

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 11/07/2016 19:48:16    1881276

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Replying To hill16no1man:  "I said it when was announced that garlic grounds was venue the crowd would be well down. For me it was ridiculous bringing the game there as ment an extra long journey for all and all because agraod to have tipp home advantage haha sure it couldn't have gone better for tipp in thurles than how it played out yesterday."
I know it stank for Waterford yesterday,but the Garlic Grounds hill?

cuederocket (Dublin) - Posts: 5084 - 11/07/2016 20:21:47    1881324

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Replying To cuederocket:  "I know it stank for Waterford yesterday,but the Garlic Grounds hill?"
Yeah the Greenhills hotel down the road had a special garlic dish for the deise haha

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 12/07/2016 08:18:10    1881512

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Thought the attendances at yesterdays football matchs were cat ..
2850 at Tipperary v Derry
4100 at Clare v Rosscommon

There would be more at a reasonable club game in most counties, is the poor defensive football seen on tv turning off a lot of people or is it the case many people have not got the dosh?

hurler32 (Limerick) - Posts: 867 - 24/07/2016 11:44:50    1889045

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I'm expecting a poor crowd for the quarter final clash on Sunday. I can't see much from Clare travelling, while many in Kerry will have their sights set on an expected semi final with the Dubs. For once i'm expecting a decent enough crowd from Galway and many Tipp supporters will fancy their chances,. so i'd expect a decent following from them as well. However, with both teams meeting in 2 weeks time in the hurling, many fans may be holding out for that game.

There was only 22,732 at the quarter final clash in 2011 for a double header between Mayo + Cork and Kerry + Limerick. I think it was the smallest crowd for a quarter final double header in Croke park. I'd expect a bigger crowd then this but with 3 Munster teams and one from Connacht again I wouldn't be surprised if around the same came. Hope to god i'm wrong. Croke Park can be a dreary place when only a quarter and even a third full.

centrefield99 (Galway) - Posts: 103 - 27/07/2016 19:11:11    1891152

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Replying To centrefield99:  "I'm expecting a poor crowd for the quarter final clash on Sunday. I can't see much from Clare travelling, while many in Kerry will have their sights set on an expected semi final with the Dubs. For once i'm expecting a decent enough crowd from Galway and many Tipp supporters will fancy their chances,. so i'd expect a decent following from them as well. However, with both teams meeting in 2 weeks time in the hurling, many fans may be holding out for that game.

There was only 22,732 at the quarter final clash in 2011 for a double header between Mayo + Cork and Kerry + Limerick. I think it was the smallest crowd for a quarter final double header in Croke park. I'd expect a bigger crowd then this but with 3 Munster teams and one from Connacht again I wouldn't be surprised if around the same came. Hope to god i'm wrong. Croke Park can be a dreary place when only a quarter and even a third full."
It will be very small, there won't be a sinner from Cork, there is a feeling of complete disillusionment down here. Tipp's football following is tiny, their team really deserve better for their efforts this season. Clare would bring a reasonable crowd if they weren't paired with Kerry, they have been beaten by them too often and as the last time was just a couple of months ago there don't have much expectation. Galway don't have a huge football following and a game against Tipp probably isn't something that will stir them in to action. I reckon they will be very lucky to hit 20k with the way the pairings have worked out.

dahayeser (Cork) - Posts: 338 - 28/07/2016 09:50:56    1891361

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Why oh why is this game in croke park? What would have been wrong with a double header in Thurles or even Limerick.

PoppinPoints (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 31/07/2016 14:05:03    1892776

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Doesn't matter where this game is played - attendance was always going to be poor ...... its in Croke Park and the players deserve to be there, you cant force people to support their counties.... Reality only 2,000 people watched the Munster football semi-final

cuchulainn35 (Armagh) - Posts: 1676 - 31/07/2016 14:32:29    1892793

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Replying To cuchulainn35:  "Doesn't matter where this game is played - attendance was always going to be poor ...... its in Croke Park and the players deserve to be there, you cant force people to support their counties.... Reality only 2,000 people watched the Munster football semi-final"
I have to completely disagree with that. Why should a player earn the right to play in croke park just because they get to a quarter final? Also, what reward is it playing in a quarter full croke park with a total lack of atmosphere. If this double header was in limerick it would have near enough filled the stadium creating a far better atmosphere and less traveling times would have encouraged more fans to travel

PoppinPoints (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 31/07/2016 14:58:43    1892817

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Over 27000 at yesterday games in Croke Park, GAA made a mistake playing those games there, Donegal v Cork should have been played in Salthill Galway and Mayo v Westmeath in Breffini Park Cavan , we now have a situation where some Mayo and Donegal supporters are wondering should they travel the 4 hour car journey to Dublin and then the 4 hour journey home after for the second Saturday in a row or hopefully wait for the semis if your team wins next week

riverboys (Mayo) - Posts: 1389 - 31/07/2016 15:06:14    1892820

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The reality is Munster football has no following unless Kerry are playing at home in Killarney against cork. They might get a good crowd at the first cork match v Kerry in the new pair ui chaoimh (out of curiosity). The only other match Kerry people ever went to outside an Ireland final was the semi replay in Limerick in 2014.

Quarter finals should be moved around the country depending on who is playing and how often they get to play in croke park.

Today's matches should have been a double header in Limerick. Yesterday's - a double header in Galway. Next week - Dublin donegal in clones and Tyrone v Mayo in Castlebar (breffni park, Hyde park (if it wasn't a big hole at the minute))

tirawleybaron (Mayo) - Posts: 1122 - 31/07/2016 20:55:47    1893165

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Yeah that quarter final should have been in Limerick. Kerry and Clare fans would have actually bothered. Can't blame them not travelling to dublin. Ridiculous location when they're both beside Limerick.

Galway v tipp should also have been there for obvious reasons and again more would have travelled. The championship has been slow enough as it is. They really should spice it up.

So when casement Park is built and we have a 38k seater in Belfast. Will the gaa still play quarter finals such as mayo v Tyrone in croker? Or will they pack out the ulster venue instead. I wish common sense could prevail.

Jack_Goff (Meath) - Posts: 2920 - 01/08/2016 07:56:21    1893329

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Surely time to market games as well, Dublin was full of tourists at weekend. More reasonable prices is a must. The aviva was well full Saturday for a friendly. I would like to see QF's being moved around like yesterday two games. Limerick was ideal for both. It shouldn't be about giving teams a run in Croker.

222 (UK) - Posts: 695 - 01/08/2016 09:21:40    1893339

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The problem is I've been saying this for years. The GAA are so slow to change things just like the championship structure. All quarter finals should be played at a smaller provincial venue (35,000) and in the case of the two quarters yesterday where there is very small demand, it should be a double header. However , when we have a standout tie, usually involving Dublin, eg Dublin V Kerry or Dublin v Donegal that could fill croke park alone for a quarter final. The semi finals should also be passed around smaller provincial venues, in a lot of cases thurles is perfect. However the one involving Dublin should always remain in croker because they normally sell out croke park for a semi final.

PoppinPoints (Meath) - Posts: 225 - 01/08/2016 11:15:22    1893399

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There's never this uproar about games being played in less than half full thurles in the Munster hurling championship or the all ireland hurling quarter finals.
They got 31 thousand at the hurling quarter finals in thurles and 29 thousand in croker yesterday for the football equivalent it's almost identical so what's the big furore about.
if anything the hurling quarter finals being played in thurles was more a stickler for having to play that double header in thurles year in year out as you had a perfect opportunity to play wexford v Waterford in nowlan park that would have drawn over 20 thousand and far more easily accessible for wexford supporters, then you had both Galway and Clare having to drive through limerick and another hour to thurles when you could have played that game in limerick and got 20thousand again and far less travelling for both sets of supporters

hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts: 12665 - 01/08/2016 11:25:52    1893404

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There's never this uproar about games being played in less than half full thurles in the Munster hurling championship or the all ireland hurling quarter finals.
They got 31 thousand at the hurling quarter finals in thurles and 29 thousand in croker yesterday for the football equivalent it's almost identical so what's the big furore about.
if anything the hurling quarter finals being played in thurles was more a stickler for having to play that double header in thurles year in year out as you had a perfect opportunity to play wexford v Waterford in nowlan park that would have drawn over 20 thousand and far more easily accessible for wexford supporters, then you had both Galway and Clare having to drive through limerick and another hour to thurles when you could have played that game in limerick and got 20thousand again and far less travelling for both sets of supporters
hill16no1man (Dublin) - Posts:10880 - 01/08/2016 11:25:52
A large proportion of Galway supporters wouldn't be driving through Limerick to go to Thurles and same for quite a few Clare supporters

ormondbannerman (Clare) - Posts: 13473 - 01/08/2016 12:09:15    1893433

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County Clare are to blame. When the qualifiers were voted in there was also a motion to give provincial champions home advantage as a carrot for winning the province. County Clare complained about the possibility of having to go to Killarney in such a scenario. Unfortunately their moaning got enough support to see a reasonable motion defeated.

Dublin Region and Tyrone had a reasonable motion a few years ago for the provincial champions to play in a champions round. Such an option would have seen:

Champions Round:
Kerry v Dublin Region
Galway v Tyrone

Qualifier Play-off:
Tipperary v Clare
Mayo v Donegal

Quarter-finals:
Champions Round losers v Qualifiers

Semi-finals:
Champions Round winners v Quarter-final winners

legendzxix (Kerry) - Posts: 7868 - 01/08/2016 12:37:50    1893444

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