and not one post from a Meath contributor

DD10 (Cavan) - Posts:118 - 16/03/2016 13:41:16

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its very hard to argue with the truth starring you in the face..its still nice to read that some posters are saying Meath will be back at the top table someday ..I would make a demoralising, patronising joke about your height, but I'm bigger than that :)

Even if we got our act together at underage structure ..it could very well take 5 or 6 years to bear fruits..yes we are 10 years behind Dublin and lets say if it takes us 10 years to get to the position Dublin are in ..Dublin are not going to sit still or wait for county to catch up with them they will be 20 years ahead the time Meath have what Dublin have now..and fair play to Dublin!

WhyTheLongFace (Meath) - Posts: 876 - 16/03/2016 18:14:35    1835461

I think Meath are a dv2,but should be good enough to at least stay in it.Our current setup for the seniors is the worst I have ever seen.

As for underage etc?

The County Board are not doing enough and I think been a so-called traditionally county is actually a problem.There seems to be an attitude "Ah sure we will be a top side again" ,without actually putting in proper plans etc for that.Colm O'Rourke about 8 years agao went to the county board with a blueprint for Meath football and he was laughed at.As it is Meaths underage teams have been worse since.the Meath minors lost an All-Ireland final about 4 years ago when they came out against the biggest and best minor side I have ever seen.Andy McEntee was the manager,he since has done a great job with Ballyboden.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/03/2016 09:32:00    1835530

Also what I may add(that people outside the county may not know) is the fact that many players have left the panel in the last few years while still playing for their clubs.Its not as if they are out of the country.Also many players refuse to join up under this current setup.That surely says a lot.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/03/2016 09:34:04    1835532

Who won't play Ziggy ?. Genuine question .

AthCliath (Dublin) - Posts: 4347 - 17/03/2016 10:03:18    1835535

Menton,Curran and Forde for starters.

Menton was our best player in the league last year..

Here is another question to everybody from a different county..

At underage how long roughly has your county been doing Strength and Conditioning?

Do they use weights at U14 or U15?

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/03/2016 11:05:55    1835555

Ziggy

Not that young, Not in Cavan anyway. I'd say the focus on strength starts at 16.

We haven't had the biggest of underage teams over the past few seasons but have enjoyed great success. The senior team is starting to look like a big physical unit tho. Promotion is a must if we're going to push on and get a core group of dedicated players to develop further. We have the talent but haven't put in the hard yards just yet.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 17/03/2016 14:47:03    1835595

Add David bray and Damien Carroll who won't play

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 17/03/2016 15:07:38    1835598

Cavanman

How many years have Cavan been doing it for with their underage teams? I remember about 6 years ago Cavan seniors were pretty poor.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 17/03/2016 15:42:17    1835605

jimboddub..... just replace the word Meath with Armagh or Laois

then what's the difference ...whomever goes down should be in Div 3 as they are not good enough to be any higher including and primarily so -the quality of their players

DD10 (Cavan) - Posts:118 - 16/03/2016 15:09:04 1835405


I have to disagree with that Armagh aren't good enough for this Div. 3 Armagh are unlucky that they haven't 6 points 2 Refs have chanced the games in the other teams way, with 7mins over time which was meant to be 4, Laois Was a clean robbing match, Cavan destroyed us that's it we near beat a team going up in Galway so saying we aren't good enough is wrong!! Bring on Derry and Tyrone

youngfella27 (Armagh) - Posts: 110 - 18/03/2016 09:24:06    1835706

it's very difficult to say over the course of a mere 7 games whether a team is good enough or not. The team that lines out for the first few games may be vastly different to that which finishes the league. Counties may be at different stages of training/preperation for championship. players may be unavailable for certain games , decisions can go against you in tight games. Unless a team ends up with zero points and a vastly inferior scoring difference then it can be very small margins between being promoted and relegated.

Cavan can't be relegated but any one of the teams in div 2 can still finish above Cavan. so let's wait till the end of the league before denouncing
teams as "not good enough" for this division.

s goldrick (Cavan) - Posts: 5518 - 18/03/2016 14:08:50    1835786

If only we had Andy McEntee,. Look what he has done with the 5th best club team in Dublin. Ahh the joys of Meath county boards, they never fail to disappoint !!!
I hope that we remain in division two as this will leave Andy with a solid base to start with next year.

royaldunne (Meath) - Posts: 19449 - 18/03/2016 14:46:19    1835797

Ziggy

I knew a few guys on the minor panel about 11-12 years ago and they were given gym programmes and diet plans at the time. So that long at least.

cavanman47 (Cavan) - Posts: 5012 - 19/03/2016 13:31:12    1835927

Cavanman

Meath have only started that this year :P

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 19/03/2016 14:15:37    1835930

Interesting set of fixtures this weekend with the 4 top teams at home to 4 bottom teams. One promotion place up for grabs and it's open season at the other end. Would make for an uber-exciting final weekend if the bottom 4 were to get wins, extremely unlikely of course. IMO Laois and Fermanagh have a very good chance. Tough ask for Armagh but they seem to be improving, and with Tyrone already there this is probably the tie of the round. Can't see Meath getting anything out of Owenbeg, a performance similar to that against Donegal a couple of years ago is required, but can't see it happening.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 22/03/2016 11:39:22    1836676

moylagh

Laois travel to Cavan yes? I cannot see Laois getting anything there to be honest.I would give Armagh a fighting chance with Tyrone already up.Can't see Fermanagh winning in Galway either.I would give Meath a chance to win in Derry as Derry themselves have not the world alike,but I would make them slight favorites.

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 22/03/2016 12:09:45    1836694

Derry have not set the world alight even. :)

ziggy32001 (Meath) - Posts: 8354 - 22/03/2016 14:18:12    1836752

I would also give Armagh a decent chance against Tyrone primarily because Tyrone are all but promoted. Armagh in my view are better than their position in the table although their defeat to Cavan was shocking. Cavan are the form team and look odds on to get the 2nd spot. Am worried about our topsy turvy form notwithstanding the fact we are better conditioned and are further down the road in defining a strategy of play compared to last season. Last season we messed up mid season when promotion looked possible after a good a start. Strange thing is we can still go up if we lose on Sunday and Cavan win and then we beat Cavan on the final day due to the head the head. Not a scenario I want and presuming of course it is only a two way tie between both of us. In all honesty we have to win on Sunday and certainly are good enough to do so although would rather the wide open space of Pearse Stadium than Tuam. Derry Meath could go either way particularly as the form of the former has dipped.

kiloughter (Galway) - Posts: 1946 - 22/03/2016 15:39:18    1836795

Home advantage to count in the closing stages as things tighten up. Four home wins for Tyrone, Cavan, Derry and Galway leading to a winner takes all contest at the top in Breffni the following weekend and a relegation shoot in Portlaoise at the bottom.

Byanthon (Tyrone) - Posts: 1780 - 22/03/2016 16:15:29    1836809

Agree that Cavan are the form team, promotion for them will be decided when they play Galway in the last round. Laois have a nasty habit of putting results together when their backs are to the wall. Racked up up a hell of a score last day against Derry and were it not for some ludicrous defending would have won. Expect more of the same this weekend with the defenders improving as well, has the potential to be a great game.
I fancied Galway last year for promotion and went for them before the league started this year. The draws against Armagh and Meath are pretty damaging. Fermanagh need to get something this weekend or they're in trouble. I believe they'll be more up for it and wouldn't be in the slighted bit surprised if they turned Galway over.
You could say Derry are lucky to be on 5 points as Cavan/Laois should have beaten them, such are the tight margins in this division between promotion and relegation contenders. If Meath can get into them then we could rack up a big score similar to Laois. Trouble is, I don't believe we will. Body language last day at the Tyrone game wasn't good and would fear for the fragility of this team if things go a bit pear shaped early on. Derry have the artillery to do a lot of damage and if they get going we're in serious trouble.

moylagh (Meath) - Posts: 484 - 23/03/2016 10:23:39    1836984

Armagh and Tyrone draw, did not see that happening .div2 has had a lot of surprising results so far

galwayfball (Galway) - Posts: 1678 - 26/03/2016 21:26:15    1837915