Depressing reading the ignorance f so many here, the information is all out there and some just feed their petty parish minds with all the rubbish their fathers want them to believe about the "awful dubs". If you care to read what Duffy has to say on the matter you will educate yourself a bit better. no point in posting links or articles because they are not read.
Dublin receives its fair share given the sheer size of the population and no its not playing population, its all about a PAYING and PLAYING population they are the only ones that count.
for instance where did the funding for the Mallow GAA Sports complex? And then point out the facility in Dublin comparable to it? Dublin clubs are creaking at the seams if the GAA is not careful all that will happen is these girls and boys will be trained for other sports. Facilites are appalling, pitches with a few exceptions are rubbish. Dublin clubs receive zilch from anyone, they rely exclusively and completely on the time and generosity of their members. GPOs as stated everywhere are "partially" paid by the Dublin County Board and by the clubs in question.

Clubs in disadvantaged areas be they in Kerry/Leitrim or Dublin receive grants from the Irish Govt through the sports council and that is only a right and proper way to spend TAXPAYERS money on all disadvantaged areas on all sports.

The GAA has a responsibility to PROMOTE its games for instance if you take areas say like Charlestown, Adamstown, Tyrrelstown the large swathes of boom time buildings in the West of the counties is the GAA to say "You know what forget this new young area of 45,000 with no GAA club lets just leave it to soccer/rugby etc etc" is that what the GAA is going to do? NO forget it, that is why Duffy knows what he is talking about. And how does the GAA "invest" in say a hypothetical area of 45,000? Go on tell us? Leitrim has a population of 38,000 and you talk of fairness as if it is a birthday cake.

arock (Dublin) - Posts: 4898 - 06/02/2016 14:56:51    1822834

@arock

That's a lot of rambling bs.

No-one is saying Dublin doesn't deserve the most funding. It does, it has the largest population.

On raw population numbers though Dublin is getting about 4 times per person compared to Meath and Kildare.

That is what we're complaining about.

All this talk of Dublin deserves it because of the hard work being done by the volunteers and the clubs themselves is disingenuous to the rest of the country.

Clubs like Crossmaglen, Nemo Rangers, Athenry don't get to where they're at without a lot of hard work and good smart work being done by their volunteers.

There are volunteers fuelling the GAA up and down the country.

Look it is great that there has been such a growth in the sport in Dublin, it really is. Everyone benefits from it in the long run.

I think what has happened here was that the GAA went all guns blazing and pumped a lot of money in at the start and they pumped it in to coaches and human capital.

That has worked out very well for Dublin but it was a little short sighted by the GAA and has led them down a dead end where they can't spend their money anywhere else. It's else tied up.

You can't go employing people and then just put them out of a job out of the blue.

I think the mistake was made 10 years ago when they started pumping the money in, it's now going to take a long time to slowly get the money flowing back out to the rest of the country.

As for losing people hand over fist to other sports, that is not a problem exclusive to Dublin.

West Belfast is seriously populated also, potential GAA players are constantly getting lost to soccer. There are Gaelic clubs up their right on top of each other. You play a match at St Paul's and you can watch 4 other games at different clubs from there. That area and those clubs would have the critical mass and resources to match areas of Dublin and would be well worth more investment yet that is unlikely to come any time soon. To be fair to the GAA there's not much they can do about it in the short term but this is still a problem of their own creation so they still have to accept the criticism that comes with it.

Whammo86 (Antrim) - Posts: 4241 - 06/02/2016 17:50:25    1822886

When a games development financing package is agreed, I think it will have to be 'formula driven', so everyone knows where they stand, and it should limit disputes.
I offered say, half of all distributions should be appropriated to counties equally regardless of size and the other half proportionately.
So, from each 64 Euro - Dublin gets 1 of 32 Euro and 9 of the other 32 Euro (28% of national population).

omahant (USA) - Posts: 2615 - 09/02/2016 15:26:33    1824014

Without looking at figures I just assumed that this sort of debate raised its head when Dublin became successful and again without knowing the figures thought it was probably a case that they get more funding but simply because of the size of the population i.e. a county with 1m inhabitants should get 10 times what a county with 100,000 would get.

However reading the article in the Irish News this does not appear to be the case.

'Dublin county has a population of around 1.3m - just over twice that of Antrim. Even in a capitalist world it's not right that Dublin receives 30 times as much money as Antrim, when the population is only about twice as large.

Down's population of more than is 530,000 represents about 40 per cent of Dublin; but Down gets less than three per cent of Dublin's games development funding.

Look at other counties with large urban centres, such as Cork: again, around 40 per cent of Dublin's population, but just five per cent of the funding. Galway, 20 per cent of the population, four per cent of the funding.

Derry? About 20 per cent of the population, less than three per cent of the funding.

Look at this another way, in terms of the euro per head of population (let's snappily call that the EPHP).

Based on the 2011 census, Dublin receives around '1.14, only exceeded by lovely, lowly, little Leitrim, with an EPHP figure of 1.23, with Longford on 1.10. The key factor there is that those are the two lowest populated counties in Ireland.

Antrim's EPHP figure is only 0.0766, or just over seven-and-a-half cents in the euro. About 6p per person.

Down isn't much better, at 0.08. Derry does well by comparison, 0.17 (Cork is 0.14). Fermanagh is positively rolling in it with nearly 64 cents per person.

Monaghan, the smallest population in Ulster, has a figure of 0.67. Cavan, is the highest in the northern province, at 0.81. Armagh and Tyrone are both around 0.23, Donegal 0.25.'

To say that people in Dublin rally round, put their hands in their pockets and shake the tin to bump their spending is not different to what happens throughout Ireland to make up extra revenue so looking at the above facts I am now of the opinion that this money has to be distributed proportionally as I always assumed it had been. Dublin will still fare well with sponsorship deals etc but they cannot be given extra grant aid from central sources.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 10/02/2016 11:25:55    1824316

Do you write for the Irish News Naysayer????

Anyway i agree with everything you just said there.

gotmilk (Fermanagh) - Posts: 4971 - 11/02/2016 12:13:34    1824658

Ha - just quoting the article.

Naysayer (Antrim) - Posts: 2071 - 11/02/2016 14:27:43    1824708

It's one thing releasing the figures of central funding, but there should perhaps be a bit more clarity on how decisions are reached and the logic behind those decisions.

GaryMc82 (Derry) - Posts: 3017 - 11/02/2016 21:04:20    1824826